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2-Pack Ryobi One+ High Performance Lithium-Ion 4.0 Ah Battery

+ Free Curbside Pickup Only

$99

$149

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Home Depot has 2-Pack Ryobi One+ High Performance Lithium-Ion 4.0 Ah Battery (PBP2004) for $99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where stock permits.

Thanks to Community Member DanMan5464 for finding this deal.

Note, availability for curbside pickup may vary by location.

Includes:
  • 2x Ryobi One+ High Performance Lithium-Ion 4.0 Ah Battery (PBP2004)
Features:
  • Integrated LED fuel gauge to monitor remaining runtime
  • Monitors voltage, temperature, and current for longer battery life
  • Robust construction to protect against impact
  • Lithium-ion chemical composition resists drainage when idle
  • Recharge on any 18V ONE+ charger

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    • This price is $50 lower (34% savings) than the list price of $149.
  • About this product:
    • 3-Year Manufacturer's Warranty (details).
    • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.
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Update: Only curbside pickup option is available now 

Home Depot has 2-Pack Ryobi One+ High Performance Lithium-Ion 4.0 Ah Battery (PBP2004) for $99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where stock permits.

Thanks to Community Member DanMan5464 for finding this deal.

Note, availability for curbside pickup may vary by location.

Includes:
  • 2x Ryobi One+ High Performance Lithium-Ion 4.0 Ah Battery (PBP2004)
Features:
  • Integrated LED fuel gauge to monitor remaining runtime
  • Monitors voltage, temperature, and current for longer battery life
  • Robust construction to protect against impact
  • Lithium-ion chemical composition resists drainage when idle
  • Recharge on any 18V ONE+ charger

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $50 lower (34% savings) than the list price of $149.
  • About this product:
    • 3-Year Manufacturer's Warranty (details).
    • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.
  • About this store:
    • Details of Home Depot's return policy here.

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jhallas
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No. This battery provides more current for brushless applications but same amount of capacity. Watch a YouTube video to see performance comparisons. The 4x number is comparing vs a battery roughly 4x smaller.
jhallas
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The only thing that makes sense is that "standard lithium" means their small regular battery. 4AH is the capacity that is the total energy which is directly proportional to run time.
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Oct 26, 2021
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Bubbu
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Quote from nottrollin :
That's known as 'the good ole' days".
Yesterday a Ryobi miter saw was FP at $99. I remember getting that saw as just One of two Free tools included a $150 bundle, a couple years ago.
Good ol' days...
O tempora, o mercatus! Frown Frown Frown
Oct 26, 2021
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burner1515
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Quote from DanMan5464 :
im just going by the product description. it says it runs up to 4x longer than standard lithium.
Up to 4X more runtime
Up to 30% more power
Runs cooler
HIGH PERFORMANCE technology features the most advanced battery electronics for overload and overheating protection
Pair with ONE+ HP tools for optimized performance
Integrated LED fuel gauge to monitor remaining runtime
Delivers fade-free power in extreme weather conditions
Monitors voltage, temperature, and current for longer battery life
Robust construction to protect against impact
Lithium-ion chemical composition resists drainage when idle
This gets thrown a lot and normally is accompanied by people throwing images of old marketing banners 'showing' the increase in power and capacity. You can't find those old banners (they freaking show NiCad batteries as the base!) on their sites anymore, and the new stuff is slightly less misleading. As other posters said it's comparing to the standard lithium batteries they sell currently. The statements you highlighted are generic to their HP or High Performance lines (yes there is supposed to be a difference between those two 'brands').

Note the phrase UP TO for 4x runtime and 30% power. For the runtime, you can't get a 'standard' lithium battery in a capacity over 4AH. Anything larger is a HP or High performance battery. The largest they have is 9AH https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../301687122 but they technically can make a 16AH battery, or decided to compare to the smaller batteries, so it is still technically true.

The 30% more power will vary by tool and literally by battery. Lot's of people says their brushless tools do perform better, but we have no idea what they are comparing them too. I mean is it a 1.2ah they had from a older tool, came with a special buy like my old brushless? They probably are not buying these and regular 4AH lithium batteries when they compare. Regardless the performance gain is from the tool drawing more power because the HP cells are more robust and specced for that that kind of draw, where your regular batteries might overload and trip. Lots of videos and posts about the battery lights just blinking and how to reset them. I know lots of 'Brushless only' fans will contest all this, but you can literally see negligable difference with their brand new 1/2 brushless impact on the torque test channel until they go for the super expensive 9AH HP (old HP, not High Performance) battery.

here is the original video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E_QYdan-p0 and the video they did after Ryobi told them they need to use the 9AH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fg92TtbY2Y But hey, it's brushless and HP means HP, should not be a difference am I right!? /s.

The 'Runs cooler' is literally where the extra power is available from. Smaller packs are connected in serial and larger packs are in Parallel. You can look up loads of info on this, but essentially serial has all cells connected in a row and all draw comes from all cells. Parallel has the cells seperated into two and connected together from there so half the draw comes from half the cells. Less draw, less heat, more power can be produced.

Finally loads of the Brushless tools come with standard Lithium batteries in their bundles. If you ask Ryobi about getting extra performance with the HP line, they will say it depends on the tool. For instance the brushless 16inch lawn mower comes with 2x 4ah lithium batteries, using HP won't increase performance per Ryobi. If you checked the videos I linked you will see you are not always getting 30% power increase even when using HP batteries on tools that are designed to draw more power.

I am in the Ryobi system because I hate having to have different batteries and them dying in storage just because I did not use them. The massive differences with all these compatible batteries is slightly maddening, but it's better than the alternative where I can't use a battery because I don't need that tool that day. My advice is to use your batteries and not focus much on Lithium, Lithium+, HP, or High Performance labels. When in doubt of performance always use at least a 4AH battery so you are using a parallel connected pack of cells. If you buy HP batteries, don't overdo it. You totally don't need HP or High performance to run a fan, light, and I truly doubt the gains reported on thing's like a drill since they are all seat of your pants reports. People get the same gains after an oil change regardless if the shop actually did anything. Sure the 9AH has the gains you seek, but who the heck is going to use that if they think they get the same performance from a smaller, cheaper, and easier to manage 4AH in everyday use?

Oh and to those who say they only run brushless, great, have you ever tried a standard 4AH Lithium though? The main response I get is they don't bother because they want the extra power from HP. If it's <10% why would you pay over 30% more? I really think Ryobi just shot themselves in the foot on all this since the big claim to fame is all batteries work with all tools. People buy into it though.
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bill_tong
Oct 26, 2021
613 Posts
From my research it seems battery tech is already changing. 18650 will no longer be used, instead it will be replace by Lithium polymer pouches that are stacked. This is the only way you can claim 4x more runtime. This battery is not that. The new Dewalt stack is using this tech and even they only claim 50% more power and smaller package. The pouches don't get warm during usage either. If you can wait, rather wait till Ryobi also moves to this tech by following Dewalt.
Oct 26, 2021
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80is
Oct 26, 2021
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ryobi understands that in this game of tools the one with better battery price and warranty wins the game.
Oct 26, 2021
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CoolHose113
Oct 26, 2021
71 Posts
Ryobi's standard was Ni-Cd battery. Compared to this they had Li-Ion 120%, 135%, 200% and 400% (or, respectively, 1.2x, 1.3x, 2x and 4x).
Li-Ion 18650 cells come in various capacities, like 1300mAh or 2600mAh. They are (always) connected five in series to produce 18V (5x3.6V) and 1300mAh (or 2600). Or in order to double the capacity - five parallel doubles in series (the parallel connection adds the capacities).
The 18650 cells have various discharge rating, like 5C (eg. a 1300mAh cell can be discharged at 5x1.3A=6.5A) or 40C, meaning they can deliver more current, hence the "HP".
Quote from bill_tong :
Anyone know how they doing this? Moving form 18650 batteries to 21700 batteries. I don't see it possible to get 4x still.
Oct 26, 2021
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joeybear
Oct 26, 2021
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It's gone up to $99
Oct 26, 2021
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bill_tong
Oct 26, 2021
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Quote from CoolHose113 :
Ryobi's standard was Ni-Cd battery. Compared to this they had Li-Ion 120%, 135%, 200% and 400% (or, respectively, 1.2x, 1.3x, 2x and 4x).
Li-Ion 18650 cells come in various capacities, like 1300mAh or 2600mAh. They are (always) connected five in series to produce 18V (5x3.6V) and 1300mAh (or 2600). Or in order to double the capacity - five parallel doubles in series (the parallel connection adds the capacities).
The 18650 cells have various discharge rating, like 5C (eg. a 1300mAh cell can be discharged at 5x1.3A=6.5A) or 40C, meaning they can deliver more current, hence the "HP".
Ok so it's 4x nicd , who compares to nicd these days. All marketing hype.

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Tourist1292
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Quote from burner1515 :
Oh and to those who say they only run brushless, great, have you ever tried a standard 4AH Lithium though? The main response I get is they don't bother because they want the extra power from HP. If it's <10% why would you pay over 30% more? I really think Ryobi just shot themselves in the foot on all this since the big claim to fame is all batteries work with all tools. People buy into it though.
I did. Using the 3Ah HP battery on a brushless circular saw, it out performs the 4Ah non HP battery. With non HP battery, it got stuck many times in longitudinal cut and could not finish the job. With the HP battery, it cut through 2x8 longitudinally without problem. Also, I did not pay 30% more for any HP battery. When you compare the deal prices, they are usually within 20% difference. Using non-HP batteries in brushless tools is a waste of money.
Oct 26, 2021
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Jay727
Oct 26, 2021
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Quote from goggles99 :
$37 for 2 of the regular 4ah? What am I missing? I see $79.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../316767033
Is the $37 still live I see $79.99 when I click the link
Oct 26, 2021
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Hartage
Oct 26, 2021
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Quote from bill_tong :
I think their 4x claim is still false. Even with a 2600 cell you'll only get 5 in the casing. Average capacity range is about 5500mah. The 18650 they have in the old casing has 10 cells at 2200mah. So by watts/h calculation at best you get is still less than 2x
Hmm, perhaps you should read my comment over again. I've made no claims as to total capacity or run time. My comment all centered around power delivery, or ability to better supply higher demand tools like circular saws. I don't make any claims beyond that. Maybe your mixing comments from different people.
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Jay2184
Oct 26, 2021
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6.0 Ah for $40 more... decision, decision...
Oct 27, 2021
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HonestMammoth473
Oct 27, 2021
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Quote from joeybear :
It's gone up to $99
Isn't that what it was when the deal was first posted?
Oct 27, 2021
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KentS5220
Oct 27, 2021
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6ah not available online and sold out everywhere around VA
Oct 27, 2021
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KMan
Oct 27, 2021
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Sorry if asked and answered but are these the same 4Ah batteries you get with their $100 2 batteries, charger & tool promo they run every summer?

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raiderxx
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Quote from trza :
Even better is the clearance of the Black Friday bundles and tools.
When does that usually happen?

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