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expired Posted by DesolateMoon ā¢ Oct 30, 2021
Oct 30, 2021 7:37 PM
Creality CR-10 Smart 3D Printer
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Prusas are very expensive for hobbyists and aren't free from problems. Look up 3d printing forums. You'll see that, yes most prusas are good, but you'll also read about CR-10s reputation for good quality. Plus if you get the lower tier Prusa $800 model, you'll spend 8-12 hrs assembling it. CR-10 takes maybe 20 minutes. Not to mention the comparably tiny build volume of the Prusa compared to this.
Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
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Prusas are very expensive for hobbyists and aren't free from problems. Look up 3d printing forums. You'll see that, yes most prusas are good, but you'll also read about CR-10s reputation for good quality. Plus if you get the lower tier Prusa $800 model, you'll spend 8-12 hrs assembling it. CR-10 takes maybe 20 minutes. Not to mention the comparably tiny build volume of the Prusa compared to this.
That said, I'm looking to maybe upgrade to this. Autoleveling sounds nice and I've been held back by the low build area of the Wanhao a few times.
About 3 months ago I got a Creality CR-10S Pro V2 for $309.00 from NewEgg. It has a 310mm x 320mm x 400mm build volume, BL Touch leveling, run-out sensor, silent steppers, dual z-screws, etc. It also prints the best out of my 3 printers. Far better. The print quality is amazing. But don't take my word for it, listen to what Michael @ Teaching Tech has to say about why he keeps going back to this printer, even with its minor foibles that are easily fixed. (Note: His is not the V2): https://youtu.be/iw5HfHxlnwI
The V2 does not need all these mods. The most expensive mod I did not do is the WhamBam system. I went with the much less expensive and just as effective CH10/FR4 epoxy board: https://youtu.be/g0PK4oXbJT8
There's nothing wrong with buying a Prusa printer, if you have the budget for it. But there's also nothing wrong with buying a Creality printer, if that's more your price range. The most important thing is to lay out your budget and printing goals and make a buying decision based on those criteria.
Remember, you can always print small on a big printer, but you cannot print big on a small printer.
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I'm gonna recommend that you stay away from the Creality printers and go for a Prusa instead. These printers are great for learning how to tinker with the machines - tweaking gcode, printing upgrades, installing new ends, etc. but if you need a workhorse that can just crank out part after part, you want something else.
Most FDM printers are capable of similar quality, the real challenge is getting to that quality and maintaining it. The Ender 3 is so popular because it can be tweaked to match machines that cost more than an order of magnitude more. But parts will break. Prints will fail. Upgrades will seem like downgrades. Great for learning, not great for production.
I know this is not the Ender 3, but I would argue that most Creality printers need more tinkering and certainly more maintenance to keep up with a Prusa.
The Ender 3 V2 is a good printer, depending on which mainboard you get. I got a post-10/2020 4.2.2 in both of mine, and those have faulty stepper drivers resulting in degrading prints as a print goes into the second or third hour and beyond. I just upgraded to a 4.2.7 board in one of them tonight, and so far so good.
But the best newbie printer is a Voxelab Aquila (Ender 3 V2 clone) for $159 compared to the E3V2's $279; I got both mine for $249 and $239, and the Aquila is a comparable machine that actuallyprints better out of the box.
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Pros
- Good print quality
- Can print Flexibles
- Easy to Assemble
- pre-configured slicer is accurate with decent profiles
- glass bed easily releases prints once cooled
Cons
- can't work with Raspberry Pi due to the Creality box interface
- smart features like auto Bed leveling and Wi-Fi don't work right
- fans are not quiet as advertised
- lots of stringing possibly due to pid tune not being correct out of the box
All in all for a first time printer I'd say $300 isn't too bad for this volume, but you could probably do better since this model has some weird smart features included that aren't very easy to work around.
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I think the Prusa Mini+ is by far the best beginner printer out there. If you value you time, trust me, you are getting what you pay for.
The opinion above is spot on. This isn't an impulse buy b/c if you have a bad experience, you'll reject the entire hobby, probably forever. Buy once, cry once.
The Mini+ I just fired up and it started printing, no adhesion issues, I can print a full bed and it sticks edge to edge with no tape, glue, or ant-bait.
The only argument for a CR-10 is that you can't get that build volume for the price anywhere else. I have a friend with a CR-10s and he had immediate problems. He finally got it printing well after going through about $200 in parts and being down for months until he had time to make the repairs.
Yes, you can tune up a Creality and get results, but I think SDers need to get out of the habit of recommending Creality for beginners. You know a really badass learning path? Get a Prusa Mini+, build an enclosure for it maybe, then do your own Voron 2.4 build while printing parts with the Mini. I might do the Voron but I also might do the Prusa XL when it's finally released.
I wouldn't recommend a Creality to anyone unless they had excess time and a DESIRE to tinker. I got my Ender 3 Pro in the $100 Microcenter deal, and I wish I had passed on it. I at least planned to ditch it when it got to frustrating, and it was easy to stop wasting time on it when I got to masking tape and glue sticks to fix adhesion because the glass bed I installed, which many said would fix it, actually made it worse. You will find 3 or 4 different solutions suggested for a problem, and that tells me I'm going to be wasting time.
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