AMD Ryzen 7 AM4 Processor: 5700G 3.8GHz 8-Core $280, 5600G 3.9GHz 6-Core

CoreyH8836

Nov 6, 2021 4:24 PM

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Quote from _A2

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I wonder if either of these would work in a ThinkCentre M75q Gen 2.

I have a 4350GE in it right now (35W). And these two are 45W. All have built in graphics.

I guess the question would be BIOS support. Any thoughts would be much appreciated nod

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These are higher wattage (65w) than a GE part. The power supplies on the ones I install at work are only 65w, unless you use a laptop docking station power bricks which are higher wattage. They also have 5650 AMD Ryzen Pro processors that are locked

khakuda

Nov 6, 2021 4:34 PM

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Quote from MiataMann

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If your mobo supports the CPU (or has new drivers for support) you should be good to go.

That's about the only compatibility issue you need to confirm.

Thank you!

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bobbylight

Nov 6, 2021 5:00 PM

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Quote from ghostfreckle

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What's the point in getting the latest and greatest and then choking it with slow ram?

May as well get a 1050 vanilla to go with the your new Alderlake "gaming" or "content creation" ROG… SMH

Because in the benchmarks I saw, especially in gaming, there doesn't seem to be any benefit to ddr5, and in some cases it is a detriment. I mean that might change, but I doubt you would see any real world difference. A few years down the road maybe that will change but as of right now, unless money is completely no object, it doesn't really make sense to spend all that extra money on ddr5 when the performance boost would likely be unnoticeable in real world computing.

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bobbylight

Nov 6, 2021 5:04 PM

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Quote from khakuda

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I have owned computers since the 80s and I've never upgraded a microprocessor because I assumed it made more sense just to get a new machine with new and faster everything. I did put SSD drives into my old hard drive PCs to give them a few more years life and have added some RAM on occasion, but anything beyond that didn't seem to make sense.

If someone wanted to do this, how do you figure out compatibility? I know that this has the same AM4 slot as my Ryzen 5 Pro. Clearly in the bios has to recognize the chip but are there other things that need to be compatible generally?

You will have to just go to the page for your motherboard and look at compatible processors. B450, B550, x570 motherboards should all be able to handle these at this point, but double check with the motherboard manufacturer.

bobbylight

Nov 6, 2021 5:06 PM

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Quote from smartdeals

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how come i5-10400f can beat 5600g?
i5-10400f no integrated video card, and cpu score only 14000 vs
Ryzen 5 5600G with onboard video and score 20000

In gaming they are about equivalent if there is a dedicated card. With integrated graphics the 5600g is FAR better. Here is a video with some benchmarks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50SqVv02b0

antechnet

Nov 6, 2021 6:18 PM

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Quote from noobcake

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It's not that simple, posters here have missed the main differences.

On paper this is 5-15% slower in games due to the cut down L3 cache from 32MB to 16MB, lower turbo from 4.6 Ghz to 4.4 Ghz. This also doesn't support PCIE 4, which means the latest gen PCIE 4.0 NVME's will suffer a bottleneck.

However the biggest difference is the market position. Why did people buy 5600x? Before Alder Lake launch, 5600x was THE best chip on the market for gaming because it is just a cut down 5800x. These two chips were the IPC leaders. But now that Alder Lake CPUs have better IPC than 5600x/5800x, the unique market position of 5600x has deteriorated.

Now back to 5600g. If you buy today, I recommend saving even further by dropping to the i5-10400f. That chip will beat 5600g handily in games at lower cost. It loses on average 5% to 5600x.

If you can wait a month, wait for the i5-12400f. Benchmark shows that it outperforms 5600x easily.

Four lanes of PCI-E Gen 3 achieves 3900 megabytes per second. That isn't going to cause any problems for anyone but the most serious enthusiasts and dedicated content creators. Same with PCI-E Gen 4 graphics. It's been a while since I saw the benchmarks, but I recall the performance difference between PCI-E 3.0 vs 4.0 being in the low single digits. Consumers buying 6 and 8 core processors often won't need Gen 4 bandwidth because they likely won't have the budget for 4k gaming or workload that can utilize Gen 4 SSD's.

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kainsword

Nov 6, 2021 6:39 PM

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Quote from ghostfreckle

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Yes, but you'll have to spend many $100s of dollars to even use one of the new Alderlakes… On top of buying the chip. New mobo, new ddr5 ram… It'll be almost a $1k to get even the i5 working with components that you already have.

Plus your energy bill will go up and you'll need a room a/c to be able to survive while playing anything…

12600k is ~60w more total system draw compared to the very efficient 5600x (ex: could be a 460w vs 400w load during heavy gaming in terms of difference). It's not a massive spike in energy consumption, and people always overblow the efficiency and make endless memes about the slightly less-efficient part being a space heater or something. The reason not to go intel are two fold:

1) It's hard to find 12th gen intel parts (cpu, new z690 motherboard, ddr5 memory) in stock
2) It's hard to find 12th gen intel parts (cpu, new z690 motherboard, ddr5 memory) at reasonable prices.

As with most launches, it sells out in a day, and many of the places still selling are selling at higher than expected prices, and you're now comparing inflated/short-stock Intel parts vs in-stock and on-sale Ryzen parts.

It's easy enough to find 32GB DDR4 deals for $100.
It's easy enough to find a decent B550 motherboard deal for $100.
It's easy enough to (here) find a decent 6-core/12-thread APU for $200.

Yes, Intel parts are performing very well this 12th generation release. So it's up to you if you want to wait or build now. I have friends that have been wanting to build for the past YEAR of gpu shortages, so they're upgrading now while Ryzen's on sale. They're not wanting to wait even longer just for Intel CPUs/mobos/DDR5 to ~maybe/hopefully~ normalize in prices/availability in weeks/months.

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mango_springroll

Nov 6, 2021 6:47 PM

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Quote from GABulldawg

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Do I want to spend the extra $80 for the 5700G. No gaming, occasional photo and video editing, occasional CAD work

Probably no need to spend extra $80. Just slight overclock the APU and dual channel RAM if your MOBO allows

deadtrees

Nov 6, 2021 6:51 PM

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Quote from khakuda

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I have owned computers since the 80s and I've never upgraded a microprocessor because I assumed it made more sense just to get a new machine with new and faster everything. I did put SSD drives into my old hard drive PCs to give them a few more years life and have added some RAM on occasion, but anything beyond that didn't seem to make sense.

If someone wanted to do this, how do you figure out compatibility? I know that this has the same AM4 slot as my Ryzen 5 Pro. Clearly in the bios has to recognize the chip but are there other things that need to be compatible generally?

Check your motherboard manufacturer's support site for a list of CPUs supported by your motherboard model, revision number, and BIOS version.

debose_

Nov 6, 2021 6:52 PM

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Quote from AD211

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Most people try to chat 2-3 times. If you're in the same state as the store, I'd call at the same time as chatting. The guy I spoke to didn't even know how to find the product on the webpage, let alone that there was an option to select store. That doesn't mean you'll get it though, and be ready for it to take 30 minutes if they don't know what they are doing.

I got BB to price match on the first chat attempt (though they're sold out of the 5600G that I was planning to get so ended up getting the 5700G). Closest MC to me is just 7.5mi away, but 35min in traffic plus $15 tolls, so that saved me a trip. Also had a Chase offer for 10% back at BB up to $25 which hopefully worked.

liunit92

Nov 6, 2021 7:20 PM

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Quote from Mando_DealHunter

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Personally, I'd be willing to forgo the 5% - 8% performance and pay 30% less for a CPU that's built using the same Zen 3 architecture. A quick OC can close the gap some with the only real difference being a larger cache on the 5600x (32MB vs 16MB), while the 5600g will include integrated graphics which believe me, come in handy if you're having issues with your dedicated GPU, or any troubleshooting really

i second this. my gpu crapped out on me and there is no chance of me getting a new gpu these days so i have my iGPU to use as a crutch

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nikoli707

Nov 6, 2021 7:50 PM

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Yeah i saw the frontpage thinking the 5700g was $200... But its the 5600g

lioncat55

Nov 6, 2021 8:00 PM

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Quote from ghostfreckle

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Yes, but you'll have to spend many $100s of dollars to even use one of the new Alderlakes… On top of buying the chip. New mobo, new ddr5 ram… It'll be almost a $1k to get even the i5 working with components that you already have.

Plus your energy bill will go up and you'll need a room a/c to be able to survive while playing anything…

I have to push back on the energy bill part. Alderlakes while gaming use a very reasonable amount of power. Under something like blender or rendering is when they use a lot more power.

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_A2

Nov 6, 2021 8:05 PM

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Quote from CoreyH8836

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These are higher wattage (65w) than a GE part. The power supplies on the ones I install at work are only 65w, unless you use a laptop docking station power bricks which are higher wattage. They also have 5650 AMD Ryzen Pro processors that are locked

Yeah I picked up at 135W power supply for the ThinkCentre, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Ahhh sh!t, you're right. Typical 65W, I was looking at "TDP Down" initially lol. Probably best not to push this little ThinkCentre laugh out loud

. Thanks for the reply.

ulieq

Nov 6, 2021 8:23 PM

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Quote from bobbylight

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Because in the benchmarks I saw, especially in gaming, there doesn't seem to be any benefit to ddr5, and in some cases it is a detriment. I mean that might change, but I doubt you would see any real world difference. A few years down the road maybe that will change but as of right now, unless money is completely no object, it doesn't really make sense to spend all that extra money on ddr5 when the performance boost would likely be unnoticeable in real world computing.

What are you talking about alder lake is like 20% faster than the best rise and chips on ddr5 for gaming specifically

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