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expiredDLS4U | Staff posted Nov 17, 2021 05:42 PM
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Select Utility Companies: Google Nest Smart Programmable WiFi Thermostat

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Various Utility Companies are Offering Current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostats and Nest Learning Thermostats on sale below. Shipping costs may vary depending on location and provider.

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    • Refer to the individual utility company offer pages for complete details and the forum thread for additional deals in certain states and deal discussion.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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Various Utility Companies are Offering Current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostats and Nest Learning Thermostats on sale below. Shipping costs may vary depending on location and provider.

Thanks Slickdeals Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal

Example Offers:

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Offers subject to change.
    • Refer to the individual utility company offer pages for complete details and the forum thread for additional deals in certain states and deal discussion.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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preferredmike
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It is so awesome to give control of your thermostat over to the utility companies.

Read the fine print. All legal doublespeak.

This is from one in my state's utilities linked in the post.

"By participating in the Company's energy efficiency and peak demand reduction programs, customers agree their electric utility will maintain ownership of all Capacity Rights from electric savings measures, which refers to the demand reduction associated with any energy efficiency or peak demand reduction measures for which incentives were provided by the Company"


During periods of high demand or as they say there "peak demand reduction programs" they will raise or lower your thermostat and you have no control over it. Enjoy.

No thanks.
dorkino
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Technically no, but there have been a lot of reports of people having issues without one. If you don't hook a c wire then it attempts to suck power off of one of the other wires. This has led to rapid cycling (think on/off every few second) of systems that can lead to damage, never mind how annoying and useless that would be.

If you don't have a c wire and don't want to run new wire, they sell an official Nest $25 wiring kit that you install in your air handler. I recommend getting one if you don't have a c wire.

Also, check the wires that are coming out of your wall behind the thermostat. I found in my old home the c wire was there but never connected to the board in the air handler. It all just depends on if you have an extra unused wire already run. In my new home I have only 4 wires and they are all in use, so when I replace the dumb thermostat with a Nest I will need the c wire kit.

https://store.google.com/product/...r?hl=en-US

You can buy this at Best Buy or Amazon or a number of places. Also be sure you have a c wire connection on your air handler board. You probably do but look for a low voltage screw terminal Marked "C"
ResidentPony
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That's actually not the section that talks about the power company controlling your thermostat. The snippet you quoted actually says "if you're allowing us control over your thermostat, we don't have to pay you back for the energy saved."

There's a concept where a homeowner with their own energy source, eg solar, can get credited for either feeding electricity back into the grid, or at least for helping the power company meet their required capacity by reducing that home's draw from the grid.

The legalese you quoted says that any power saved because of a thermostat-related demand reduction program will not result in a credit to the homeowner.

That's it. The part that actually signs the user up for such a program, if that part exists, is not here.

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Nov 22, 2021 02:29 PM
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sonofagunkNov 22, 2021 02:29 PM
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in NJ, got the mini and the "dumb" nest for $15 after tax and shipping
Nov 22, 2021 03:32 PM
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avocadoNov 22, 2021 03:32 PM
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Looks like none of them works for NY
Nov 22, 2021 04:09 PM
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xedrox51Nov 22, 2021 04:09 PM
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Quote from avocado :
Looks like none of them works for NY
National grid and con Ed worked for me after I entered my account #
Nov 22, 2021 04:32 PM
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mgoodlinNov 22, 2021 04:32 PM
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Be careful you may need a C wire to set these up. If you do not have in existing wiring it will need to be added by an electrician
Nov 22, 2021 04:34 PM
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mgoodlinNov 22, 2021 04:34 PM
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Quote from Cadd :
Anyone use the Nest (non learning) thermostat with a 2 wire boiler (baseboard water heating) system?

I have a nest learning thermostat for my AC. However, my house uses baseboard (water) heat. The boiler is controlled by 2 thermostats. My 2 thermostats only have 2 wires (red and white).

It seems like the Nest (non learning) thermostat isn't compatible with a 2 wire hookup?
They have a compatibility checker online. Remove your thermostat and check the wiring labels.
Nov 22, 2021 05:01 PM
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TopSpeed510Nov 22, 2021 05:01 PM
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Wish i have a normal thermostat. I have a Honeywell Intelligent system where the wires from the wall run to a computer and out to furnish. Anyone know how i can use these ?
Nov 22, 2021 05:13 PM
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avocadoNov 22, 2021 05:13 PM
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Quote from xedrox51 :
National grid and con Ed worked for me after I entered my account #
Does not work for me either.

All the Verify your account links brought me to PSEG NJ instead of NY.

Thanks anyway.

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Nov 22, 2021 05:30 PM
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xedrox51Nov 22, 2021 05:30 PM
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Quote from avocado :
Does not work for me either.

All the Verify your account links brought me to PSEG NJ instead of NY.

Thanks anyway.
Im assuming you mean psegliny by pseg ny? I don't see a market place for them...only thing i can suggest is signing up for the rebate after purchasing elsewhere Smart Savers - https://www.psegliny.com/saveener...martSavers

Also, for national grid...it didn't work for me the first time either. I tried again the next day and it accepted my account number. (make sure to update your market place to "long island" on the top left if that's your location.
Nov 22, 2021 05:52 PM
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JdtdealNov 22, 2021 05:52 PM
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It is showing me the Nest or ecobee3 Lite but for US$38.99 in north cal. 🤔
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Dyerseve1221Nov 22, 2021 06:12 PM
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Quote from preferredmike :
It is so awesome to give control of your thermostat over to the utility companies.

Read the fine print. All legal doublespeak.

This is from one in my state's utilities linked in the post.

"By participating in the Company's energy efficiency and peak demand reduction programs, customers agree their electric utility will maintain ownership of all Capacity Rights from electric savings measures, which refers to the demand reduction associated with any energy efficiency or peak demand reduction measures for which incentives were provided by the Company"


During periods of high demand or as they say there "peak demand reduction programs" they will raise or lower your thermostat and you have no control over it. Enjoy.

No thanks.
Takes 30 seconds to call an opt out. Take the aluminum foil hat off and relax
Nov 22, 2021 06:41 PM
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Shake-N-BakeNov 22, 2021 06:41 PM
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The links for California PG&E both return "404 Error Page Not Found."
Nov 22, 2021 06:41 PM
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mkm85Nov 22, 2021 06:41 PM
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Sorry for the newbie question.

I only have two wires from my furnace. So no C-wire and no central air-conditioner. I powered my Sensi thermostat(this one has C-wire fire hazard recall. That's why I order this deal.) using a 24v transformer adapter to connect C and RH.
After opening the box, I recognized that this Google Thermostat doesn't have Rh or Rc. Only six sockets.
I watched a youtube video. One guy installed one wire from the furnace to "R" and RC wire from the 24v transformer to "R" again. Install video [youtube.com]

Is that the right installation? No fire hazard or any other electrical problem or risks?
Nov 22, 2021 07:06 PM
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twostepopperNov 22, 2021 07:06 PM
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If you care about your privacy and right to control your own environment in your home... Then pass.

This is a marketing gimmick to lure in people into their monitoring program.
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Nov 22, 2021 07:24 PM
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avocadoNov 22, 2021 07:24 PM
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Quote from xedrox51 :
Im assuming you mean psegliny by pseg ny? I don't see a market place for them...only thing i can suggest is signing up for the rebate after purchasing elsewhere Smart Savers - https://www.psegliny.com/saveener...martSavers

Also, for national grid...it didn't work for me the first time either. I tried again the next day and it accepted my account number. (make sure to update your market place to "long island" on the top left if that's your location.
Thanks a lot for the link. WIll try.

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Nov 22, 2021 07:51 PM
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txcrudeNov 22, 2021 07:51 PM
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Be very careful and read all the small print. As many customers in Texas have learned during last year's freeze, you are giving the utilities permission to control or even shut down power. Not worth the $50-80 savings.
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