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Model
Band QNAP
Model TS-653D-4G-US
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Port (2.5G/1G/100M)
Port USB 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 + 3 x USB 2.0
HDD Interface 6 x SATA (6 x Bay)
Port Others 1 x HDMI 2.0 (up to 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz)
PCIe 1 x PCIe Gen 2 x2 sad face because of Gen 2 but because at least it has an expansion bay.
Configuration
Form Factor 6-Bay
Operating System QTS 4.4.2 (embedded Linux)
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 quad-core 2.0 GHz processor (burst up to 2.7 GHz)
Default/ Max. Memory 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) / 8 GB Max (unofficial 32GB)
Memory Slot 2 x SO-DIMM
Drive Compatibility
3.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA solid state drives
RAID RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single (no fluid raid)
Convenience
Features Dual 2.5GbE ports accelerates file sharing across teams and devices or gaming storage applications.
PCIe expansion allows for a Multi-Gig 10GbE or 5GbE network card, or a QM2 card to add M.2 NVMe or SATA SSDs for caching.
4K media playback and real-time transcoding; directly watch videos on an HDTV via HDMI 2.0 (4K @60Hz) output.
HBS provides comprehensive backup and data recovery; QuDedup deduplicates the data at the source to reduce storage space usage, bandwidth usage, and backup time.
Cloud storage gateways realize hybrid cloud applications by working with the cache space reserved on NAS to ensure low-latency data access to the cloud.
Hosts multiple virtual machines and containers to execute different applications in one NAS device.
Can use TrueNAS instead of Qnap's OS.
Customer support has bad reputation. Reputation of taking too long to fix security issues or other problems.
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Model DS920+
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 10/100/1000M
Port USB 2 x USB3.0
Port eSATA 1 x eSATA
HDD Interface 4 x 3.5" or 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD
Port Others 2 x M.2 2280 NVMe SSD PCIe Gen3
Configuration
Form Factor 4-Bay
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 4-core 2.0GHz, burst up to 2.7GHz
Default/ Max. Memory 4GB DDR4 onboard / 8GB Max (unofficial 20GB) sad face because of the embedded ram
Drive Compatibility
3.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA SSD
M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single, SHR1, Shr2
Convenie
Features
Average 15% performance boost to photo indexing and other computing-intensive operations, as well as database response time
Reach Optimal Performance and Capacity with SSD Cache
Built-in M.2 2280 NVMe SSD slots permit cache acceleration without occupying storage drive bays
Expand Storage with Ease
Flexibly scale up to nine drives to increase storage capacity as demand grows
Empower Collaboration and Productivity
Build an on-premises, multi-user collaboration environment with fine-grained control
Protect and Restore Data in a Snap
Back up critical data and reduce your Recovery Time Objective (RTO) with Snapshot Replication
Ready to Go Virtualized
Set up and run mainstream virtual machines within your Synology NAS
Safeguard Your Physical Assets with 24/7 Surveillance
Feature-rich Surveillance Station with user-friendly management tools
Usage Backup & stream media through personal cloud
Customer support is hit and miss. Might be good might be bad.
Locked to DSM OS, no other OS can be installed.
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The above is just me trying to decide between those units. Already have a DS920+ and looking for a 2nd unit. This time would like a unit with more than 4 bays that being the main reason I have not pulled the triggered yet on the DS920+.
This QNAP seems like a better more future proof investment, with 2.5GbE, and expation bay that could be possible be used for 10GbE, no embedded memory ie if a module fails is an easy fix, has HDMI. On the other hand it doesn't have something equivalent to SHR which means upgrading storage might be more complicated or involve a higher investment. Doesn't have M.2 NVME support which is not a deal breaker.
I like Synology but on paper this QNAP unit looks like a better choice. Will hold to see if an 8 bay deal comes up. Hopefully also a model that has EEC memory.
You can add NVME to QNAP with PCIE card. A big difference you overlooked if you want to use the NAS as security camera NVR is the QNAP has 8+4 license while the Synology only has 2 and the license fee for 10 is more than the cost of the QNAP.
I don't remember, however, seeing more than 40% of memory utilization even with Virtualization Station, Container Station, Surveillance Station and many other apps running at the same time, so 16GB should be sufficient as well.
This QNAP seems like a better more future proof investment, with 2.5GbE, and expation bay that could be possible be used for 10GbE, no embedded memory ie if a module fails is an easy fix, has HDMI. On the other hand it doesn't have something equivalent to SHR which means upgrading storage might be more complicated or involve a higher investment. Doesn't have M.2 NVME support which is not a deal breaker.
I like Synology but on paper this QNAP unit looks like a better choice. Will hold to see if an 8 bay deal comes up. Hopefully also a model that has EEC memory.
You can add NVME to QNAP with PCIE card. A big difference you overlooked if you want to use the NAS as security camera NVR is the QNAP has 8+4 license while the Synology only has 2 and the license fee for 10 is more than the cost of the QNAP.
Last edited by PawPawDog November 25, 2021 at 09:03 AM.
I don't remember, however, seeing more than 40% of memory utilization even with Virtualization Station, Container Station, Surveillance Station and many other apps running at the same time, so 16GB should be sufficient as well.
This is the correct link for memory. I purchased it earlier this year for the 4 bay version of this NAS.
DUAL RANK memory is what you need. Single rank will NOT work. Ask me how I know.
You can add NVME to QNAP with PCIE card. A big difference you overlooked if you want to use the NAS as security camera NVR is the QNAP has 8+4 license while the Synology only has 2 and the license fee for 10 is more than the cost of the QNAP.
Thanks for the info. I was aware of using the PCIe bay for an M.2 drive but did not count it on QNAPs favor as using it for a 10Gbe makes more sense in my case, and the combo card that does 10Gbe + M.2 NVMe would would limit on one of the two functions due to this being PCIe Gen 2x2.
Still think this is a better investment over the 920+ though future wise. My experience with Synology's customer service was A+ though and that also counts for me. QNAP has had a very bad bad reputation in that area specially during 2020 + 2021 which is making me think this twice too.
Model
Band QNAP
Model TS-653D-4G-US
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Port (2.5G/1G/100M)
Port USB 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 + 3 x USB 2.0
HDD Interface 6 x SATA (6 x Bay)
Port Others 1 x HDMI 2.0 (up to 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz)
PCIe 1 x PCIe Gen 2 x2 sad face because of Gen 2 but because at least it has an expansion bay.
Configuration
Form Factor 6-Bay
Operating System QTS 4.4.2 (embedded Linux)
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 quad-core 2.0 GHz processor (burst up to 2.7 GHz)
Default/ Max. Memory 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) / 8 GB Max (unofficial 32GB)
Memory Slot 2 x SO-DIMM
Drive Compatibility
3.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA solid state drives
RAID RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single (no fluid raid)
Convenience
Features Dual 2.5GbE ports accelerates file sharing across teams and devices or gaming storage applications.
PCIe expansion allows for a Multi-Gig 10GbE or 5GbE network card, or a QM2 card to add M.2 NVMe or SATA SSDs for caching.
4K media playback and real-time transcoding; directly watch videos on an HDTV via HDMI 2.0 (4K @60Hz) output.
HBS provides comprehensive backup and data recovery; QuDedup deduplicates the data at the source to reduce storage space usage, bandwidth usage, and backup time.
Cloud storage gateways realize hybrid cloud applications by working with the cache space reserved on NAS to ensure low-latency data access to the cloud.
Hosts multiple virtual machines and containers to execute different applications in one NAS device.
Can use TrueNAS instead of Qnap's OS.
Customer support has bad reputation. Reputation of taking too long to fix security issues or other problems.
_____________________
Model DS920+
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 10/100/1000M
Port USB 2 x USB3.0
Port eSATA 1 x eSATA
HDD Interface 4 x 3.5" or 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD
Port Others 2 x M.2 2280 NVMe SSD PCIe Gen3
Configuration
Form Factor 4-Bay
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 4-core 2.0GHz, burst up to 2.7GHz
Default/ Max. Memory 4GB DDR4 onboard / 8GB Max (unofficial 20GB) sad face because of the embedded ram
Drive Compatibility
3.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA SSD
M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single, SHR1, Shr2
Convenie
Features
Average 15% performance boost to photo indexing and other computing-intensive operations, as well as database response time
Reach Optimal Performance and Capacity with SSD Cache
Built-in M.2 2280 NVMe SSD slots permit cache acceleration without occupying storage drive bays
Expand Storage with Ease
Flexibly scale up to nine drives to increase storage capacity as demand grows
Empower Collaboration and Productivity
Build an on-premises, multi-user collaboration environment with fine-grained control
Protect and Restore Data in a Snap
Back up critical data and reduce your Recovery Time Objective (RTO) with Snapshot Replication
Ready to Go Virtualized
Set up and run mainstream virtual machines within your Synology NAS
Safeguard Your Physical Assets with 24/7 Surveillance
Feature-rich Surveillance Station with user-friendly management tools
Usage Backup & stream media through personal cloud
Customer support is hit and miss. Might be good might be bad.
Locked to DSM OS, no other OS can be installed.
_______________
The above is just me trying to decide between those units. Already have a DS920+ and looking for a 2nd unit. This time would like a unit with more than 4 bays that being the main reason I have not pulled the triggered yet on the DS920+.
This QNAP seems like a better more future proof investment, with 2.5GbE, and expation bay that could be possible be used for 10GbE, no embedded memory ie if a module fails is an easy fix, has HDMI. On the other hand it doesn't have something equivalent to SHR which means upgrading storage might be more complicated or involve a higher investment. Doesn't have M.2 NVME support which is not a deal breaker.
I like Synology but on paper this QNAP unit looks like a better choice. Will hold to see if an 8 bay deal comes up. Hopefully also a model that has EEC memory.
I have an older qnap and will be going Synology next time. I just don't trust qnap, bad firmware updates and really sketch security. Yeah for the price you usually get better hardware.
2 more bays here costs $110 extra while TR-004 is priced at $175.
Just wondering if there's any chance to get it at $520 (last year). Or maybe b&h / Adorama will get some deals, currently they only match $440 for TS-453D.
i bough this used at discount from amazon reseller. it was practically new because the box seal was broken but hardware still untouch.
I have an older qnap and will be going Synology next time. I just don't trust qnap, bad firmware updates and really sketch security. Yeah for the price you usually get better hardware.
I cannot elaborate on this forum, obviously, but look for google rTorrent Pro and it's the top link. That's the store page, within there, there's a 'Read more about rTorrent-Pro' link which is more in depth information.
It does just fine with 1080p transcoding, 4k it struggles. Direct Play which almost everyone uses is perfectly fine. I've had 4 streams going on within my household at once with no issue.
I doubt plex transcode on local network. Transcoding mostly done outside of local network.
Does this have any memory in it is that what it mean when it says discless do I have to get
If by memory you mean storage, then no, you have to buy hard drives, or SSDs separately to populate it. That is what discless means, that the unit does not come with any storage drives.
If you meant memory as in RAM, yes it comes with RAM.
If by memory you mean storage, then no, you have to buy hard drives, or SSDs separately to populate it. That is what discless means, that the unit does not come with any storage drives.
If you meant memory as in RAM, yes it comes with RAM.
Thank you so much I appreciate the information
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Band QNAP
Model TS-653D-4G-US
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Port (2.5G/1G/100M)
Port USB 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 + 3 x USB 2.0
HDD Interface 6 x SATA (6 x Bay)
Port Others 1 x HDMI 2.0 (up to 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz)
PCIe 1 x PCIe Gen 2 x2
Configuration
Form Factor 6-Bay
Operating System QTS 4.4.2 (embedded Linux)
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 quad-core 2.0 GHz processor (burst up to 2.7 GHz)
Default/ Max. Memory 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) / 8 GB Max (unofficial 32GB)
Memory Slot 2 x SO-DIMM
Drive Compatibility
3.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA solid state drives
RAID RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single (no fluid raid)
Convenience
Features Dual 2.5GbE ports accelerates file sharing across teams and devices or gaming storage applications.
PCIe expansion allows for a Multi-Gig 10GbE or 5GbE network card, or a QM2 card to add M.2 NVMe or SATA SSDs for caching.
4K media playback and real-time transcoding; directly watch videos on an HDTV via HDMI 2.0 (4K @60Hz) output.
HBS provides comprehensive backup and data recovery; QuDedup deduplicates the data at the source to reduce storage space usage, bandwidth usage, and backup time.
Cloud storage gateways realize hybrid cloud applications by working with the cache space reserved on NAS to ensure low-latency data access to the cloud.
Hosts multiple virtual machines and containers to execute different applications in one NAS device.
Can use TrueNAS instead of Qnap's OS.
Customer support has bad reputation. Reputation of taking too long to fix security issues or other problems.
_____________________
Model DS920+
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 10/100/1000M
Port USB 2 x USB3.0
Port eSATA 1 x eSATA
HDD Interface 4 x 3.5" or 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD
Port Others 2 x M.2 2280 NVMe SSD PCIe Gen3
Configuration
Form Factor 4-Bay
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 4-core 2.0GHz, burst up to 2.7GHz
Default/ Max. Memory 4GB DDR4 onboard / 8GB Max (unofficial 20GB)
Drive Compatibility
3.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA SSD
M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single, SHR1, Shr2
Convenie
Features
Average 15% performance boost to photo indexing and other computing-intensive operations, as well as database response time
Reach Optimal Performance and Capacity with SSD Cache
Built-in M.2 2280 NVMe SSD slots permit cache acceleration without occupying storage drive bays
Expand Storage with Ease
Flexibly scale up to nine drives to increase storage capacity as demand grows
Empower Collaboration and Productivity
Build an on-premises, multi-user collaboration environment with fine-grained control
Protect and Restore Data in a Snap
Back up critical data and reduce your Recovery Time Objective (RTO) with Snapshot Replication
Ready to Go Virtualized
Set up and run mainstream virtual machines within your Synology NAS
Safeguard Your Physical Assets with 24/7 Surveillance
Feature-rich Surveillance Station with user-friendly management tools
Usage Backup & stream media through personal cloud
Customer support is hit and miss. Might be good might be bad.
Locked to DSM OS, no other OS can be installed.
_______________
The above is just me trying to decide between those units. Already have a DS920+ and looking for a 2nd unit. This time would like a unit with more than 4 bays that being the main reason I have not pulled the triggered yet on the DS920+.
This QNAP seems like a better more future proof investment, with 2.5GbE, and expation bay that could be possible be used for 10GbE, no embedded memory ie if a module fails is an easy fix, has HDMI. On the other hand it doesn't have something equivalent to SHR which means upgrading storage might be more complicated or involve a higher investment. Doesn't have M.2 NVME support which is not a deal breaker.
I like Synology but on paper this QNAP unit looks like a better choice. Will hold to see if an 8 bay deal comes up. Hopefully also a model that has EEC memory.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071H38422
I don't remember, however, seeing more than 40% of memory utilization even with Virtualization Station, Container Station, Surveillance Station and many other apps running at the same time, so 16GB should be sufficient as well.
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Anybody with experience with this processor?
This QNAP seems like a better more future proof investment, with 2.5GbE, and expation bay that could be possible be used for 10GbE, no embedded memory ie if a module fails is an easy fix, has HDMI. On the other hand it doesn't have something equivalent to SHR which means upgrading storage might be more complicated or involve a higher investment. Doesn't have M.2 NVME support which is not a deal breaker.
I like Synology but on paper this QNAP unit looks like a better choice. Will hold to see if an 8 bay deal comes up. Hopefully also a model that has EEC memory.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071H38422
I don't remember, however, seeing more than 40% of memory utilization even with Virtualization Station, Container Station, Surveillance Station and many other apps running at the same time, so 16GB should be sufficient as well.
DUAL RANK memory is what you need. Single rank will NOT work. Ask me how I know.
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Still think this is a better investment over the 920+ though future wise. My experience with Synology's customer service was A+ though and that also counts for me. QNAP has had a very bad bad reputation in that area specially during 2020 + 2021 which is making me think this twice too.
Band QNAP
Model TS-653D-4G-US
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Port (2.5G/1G/100M)
Port USB 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 + 3 x USB 2.0
HDD Interface 6 x SATA (6 x Bay)
Port Others 1 x HDMI 2.0 (up to 4096 x 2160 @ 60Hz)
PCIe 1 x PCIe Gen 2 x2
Configuration
Form Factor 6-Bay
Operating System QTS 4.4.2 (embedded Linux)
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 quad-core 2.0 GHz processor (burst up to 2.7 GHz)
Default/ Max. Memory 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) / 8 GB Max (unofficial 32GB)
Memory Slot 2 x SO-DIMM
Drive Compatibility
3.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA hard disk drives
2.5-inch SATA solid state drives
RAID RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single (no fluid raid)
Convenience
Features Dual 2.5GbE ports accelerates file sharing across teams and devices or gaming storage applications.
PCIe expansion allows for a Multi-Gig 10GbE or 5GbE network card, or a QM2 card to add M.2 NVMe or SATA SSDs for caching.
4K media playback and real-time transcoding; directly watch videos on an HDTV via HDMI 2.0 (4K @60Hz) output.
HBS provides comprehensive backup and data recovery; QuDedup deduplicates the data at the source to reduce storage space usage, bandwidth usage, and backup time.
Cloud storage gateways realize hybrid cloud applications by working with the cache space reserved on NAS to ensure low-latency data access to the cloud.
Hosts multiple virtual machines and containers to execute different applications in one NAS device.
Can use TrueNAS instead of Qnap's OS.
Customer support has bad reputation. Reputation of taking too long to fix security issues or other problems.
_____________________
Model DS920+
Interfaces
Port RJ-45 2 x 10/100/1000M
Port USB 2 x USB3.0
Port eSATA 1 x eSATA
HDD Interface 4 x 3.5" or 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD
Port Others 2 x M.2 2280 NVMe SSD PCIe Gen3
Configuration
Form Factor 4-Bay
Processor Intel Celeron J4125 4-core 2.0GHz, burst up to 2.7GHz
Default/ Max. Memory 4GB DDR4 onboard / 8GB Max (unofficial 20GB)
Drive Compatibility
3.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA HDD
2.5" SATA SSD
M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, JBOD, Single, SHR1, Shr2
Convenie
Features
Average 15% performance boost to photo indexing and other computing-intensive operations, as well as database response time
Reach Optimal Performance and Capacity with SSD Cache
Built-in M.2 2280 NVMe SSD slots permit cache acceleration without occupying storage drive bays
Expand Storage with Ease
Flexibly scale up to nine drives to increase storage capacity as demand grows
Empower Collaboration and Productivity
Build an on-premises, multi-user collaboration environment with fine-grained control
Protect and Restore Data in a Snap
Back up critical data and reduce your Recovery Time Objective (RTO) with Snapshot Replication
Ready to Go Virtualized
Set up and run mainstream virtual machines within your Synology NAS
Safeguard Your Physical Assets with 24/7 Surveillance
Feature-rich Surveillance Station with user-friendly management tools
Usage Backup & stream media through personal cloud
Customer support is hit and miss. Might be good might be bad.
Locked to DSM OS, no other OS can be installed.
_______________
The above is just me trying to decide between those units. Already have a DS920+ and looking for a 2nd unit. This time would like a unit with more than 4 bays that being the main reason I have not pulled the triggered yet on the DS920+.
This QNAP seems like a better more future proof investment, with 2.5GbE, and expation bay that could be possible be used for 10GbE, no embedded memory ie if a module fails is an easy fix, has HDMI. On the other hand it doesn't have something equivalent to SHR which means upgrading storage might be more complicated or involve a higher investment. Doesn't have M.2 NVME support which is not a deal breaker.
I like Synology but on paper this QNAP unit looks like a better choice. Will hold to see if an 8 bay deal comes up. Hopefully also a model that has EEC memory.
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https://www.qnap.com/en/how-to/fa...-comes-up-
2 more bays here costs $110 extra while TR-004 is priced at $175.
Just wondering if there's any chance to get it at $520 (last year). Or maybe b&h / Adorama will get some deals, currently they only match $440 for TS-453D.
It does just fine with 1080p transcoding, 4k it struggles. Direct Play which almost everyone uses is perfectly fine. I've had 4 streams going on within my household at once with no issue.
If you meant memory as in RAM, yes it comes with RAM.
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