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QNAP TS-653D-4G 6 Bay NAS @ Amazon for $549.99 (After Clipon Coupon)

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QNAP TS-653D
Ideal for SOHO users and enthusiasts, this NAS offers a powerful yet easy-to-use solution for backing up, syncing and sharing files, streaming videos, and more. It's powered by an Intel quad-core processor, features dual 2.5GbE connectivity that has much higher throughput than 1GbE, and supports PCIe expansion for add-on cards (sold separately) of 10GbE, M.2 SSD for cache acceleration, or Wi-Fi 6. A built-in HDMI 2.0 connects to your 4K TV and directly plays media files stored on the NAS. Scalable storage lets you start small, and expand storage capacity with RAID or expansion enclosures (sold separately) as your data grows.
  • Intel Celeron J4125 quad-core 2.0 GHz processor (burst up to 2.7 GHz)
  • Intel HD Graphics 600
  • 4GB SO-DIMM DDR4 (Max 8GB)
  • 6 x 3.5-inch drive bays (Diskless)
  • 2 x 2.5GbE ports
  • 1 x PCIe Gen 2 slot
  • 3 x USB 2.0 ports
  • 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports
  • 1 x HDMI output
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QNAP TS-653D
Ideal for SOHO users and enthusiasts, this NAS offers a powerful yet easy-to-use solution for backing up, syncing and sharing files, streaming videos, and more. It's powered by an Intel quad-core processor, features dual 2.5GbE connectivity that has much higher throughput than 1GbE, and supports PCIe expansion for add-on cards (sold separately) of 10GbE, M.2 SSD for cache acceleration, or Wi-Fi 6. A built-in HDMI 2.0 connects to your 4K TV and directly plays media files stored on the NAS. Scalable storage lets you start small, and expand storage capacity with RAID or expansion enclosures (sold separately) as your data grows.
  • Intel Celeron J4125 quad-core 2.0 GHz processor (burst up to 2.7 GHz)
  • Intel HD Graphics 600
  • 4GB SO-DIMM DDR4 (Max 8GB)
  • 6 x 3.5-inch drive bays (Diskless)
  • 2 x 2.5GbE ports
  • 1 x PCIe Gen 2 slot
  • 3 x USB 2.0 ports
  • 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports
  • 1 x HDMI output
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Nov 29, 2021 05:59 PM
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wbs3333Nov 29, 2021 05:59 PM
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Reviews on Amazon about QNAP's customer support are brutal. Scares any would be buyer. Still, it has a 4 star rating meaning that if you have 0 problems and don't have to contact QNAP you should be fine. Probably it would be a good idea to invest the $100 discount on buying an extended warranty just in case.


QNAP really has to do some branding cleanup similar to what Hyundai and T-Mobile did. If it wasn't for that bad reputation these would be selling like hotcakes. Makes 0 sense that with lower hardware specs Synology is selling out all of their units and QNAP with better specs is still trying to sell theirs.
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Nov 29, 2021 09:54 PM
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nobody2000Nov 29, 2021 09:54 PM
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Quote from wbs3333 :
Reviews on Amazon about QNAP's customer support are brutal. Scares any would be buyer. Still, it has a 4 star rating meaning that if you have 0 problems and don't have to contact QNAP you should be fine. Probably it would be a good idea to invest the $100 discount on buying an extended warranty just in case.


QNAP really has to do some branding cleanup similar to what Hyundai and T-Mobile did. If it wasn't for that bad reputation these would be selling like hotcakes. Makes 0 sense that with lower hardware specs Synology is selling out all of their units and QNAP with better specs is still trying to sell theirs.
Well said. Yup - QNAP is a mess, and I own and use mine everyday and would never recommend anyone get one. I find that they irresponsibly include features like "myqnapcloud" and default uPnP to "on." - Seems like a great way to get unsuspecting people to get hacked...which is exactly what happened with a pretty nasty ransomware attack. Worse, even if you do disable uPnP and myqnapcloud (which you should, like day 1), it still, for some reason, phones home.

Supposedly, when I got it (18 months ago), QNAP was the choice of those who want a little more customization and control. This may still be true, but I also found that their OS and firmware updates not only default you to settings you don't want, but also fairly regularly cause issues with standard hardware.

Honestly - once you hit that $600 mark, you're better off building.
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wbs3333Nov 30, 2021 07:19 PM
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Quote from 7minutessober :
Or if you're not an idiot and know how to tech.
Sounds like a comment that comes from a great mind. laugh out loudlaugh out loudlaugh out loudlaugh out loud
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Quote from wbs3333 :
Quote from 7minutessober :
Or if you're not an idiot and know how to tech.


Sounds like a comment that comes from a great mind. laugh out loudlaugh out loudlaugh out loudlaugh out loud
Best comment in 10 years on SD. Applause
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wbs3333Nov 30, 2021 08:48 PM
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Quote from 7minutessober :
You're all the ones crying on here about losing data and getting malware. Meanwhile my devices have had no issues. But sure blame the devices and not your lack of skills.
Be on the lookout, NSA is sending you an offer soon. They are impressed with your impressive skills.

I'm not trying to debate or fight, trying to keep it respectful without calling anyone dumb. If you read my first post I was just hoping that QNAP did something to improve their image. I am for sure hoping that they do. It is best for all of us to have them as a player in this game. But what they are doing with their customer support and brand is not really working. If you re-read my post I didn't speak about security or losing data anywhere. All I was bringing up was their bad reputation customer service wise. I even brought up that their product has 4stars which indicate their hardware must not be that bad, thus why they need to improve their brand image.

It is exactly what happened with Hyundai, when they started they had some bad products and warranty that trashed their brand. Word of mouth got spread about the bad quality and sale tanked. Even after they had improved their quality, so a new CEO had to take action about that matter and improved the product by increasing the warranty and making the brand more customer friendly. Today Hyundai is one of the top sellers world wide of cars. Unlike what happened to Daewoo for example, a brand that died because of the bad reputation and null action to improve it.

T-Mobile same boat, they had a decent (not great) network but horrible with customer service. New CEO comes in and flips the company around becoming one of the biggest Wireless carriers on the US today. He did it by changing the brands image and making it more customer friendly. He changed the culture favoring good customer service. At the same time huge investments were done to the wireless network to support the other side of the coin.

I think QNAP has all the potential to beat Synology, but they need to change that bad perception they currently have. All they have to do is improve their customer service and add some services to their software that will give customer some re-assurance.

For example, increase warranty terms. Maybe add some fancy anti-malware/virus/ransomware software that not only protects the NAS but also the other devices like phones and PCs. Free cloud backup, or something.

In the end the brand survives from sales, and not from only smart tech people (minority) buying their products. Why do you think Apple is such a huge company? Because of all the smart tech people buying Apple products?
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7minutessoberNov 30, 2021 08:53 PM
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Quote from wbs3333 :
Be on the lookout, NSA is sending you an offer soon. They are impressed with your impressive skills.

I'm not trying to debate or fight, trying to keep it respectful without calling anyone dumb. If you read my first post I was just hoping that QNAP did something to improve their image. I am for sure hoping that they do. It is best for all of us to have them as a player in this game. But what they are doing with their customer support and brand is not really working. If you re-read my post I didn't speak about security or losing data anywhere. All I was bringing up was their bad reputation customer service wise. I even brought up that their product has 4stars which indicate their hardware must not be that bad, thus why they need to improve their brand image.

It is exactly what happened with Hyundai, when they started they had some bad products and warranty that trashed their brand. Word of mouth got spread about the bad quality and sale tanked. Even after they had improved their quality, so a new CEO had to take action about that matter and improved the product by increasing the warranty and making the brand more customer friendly. Today Hyundai is one of the top sellers world wide of cars. Unlike what happened to Daewoo for example, a brand that died because of the bad reputation and null action to improve it.

T-Mobile same boat, they had a decent (not great) network but horrible with customer service. New CEO comes in and flips the company around becoming one of the biggest Wireless carriers on the US today. He did it by changing the brands image and making it more customer friendly. He changed the culture favoring good customer service. At the same time huge investments were done to the wireless network to support the other side of the coin.

I think QNAP has all the potential to beat Synology, but they need to change that bad perception they currently have. All they have to do is improve their customer service and add some services to their software that will give customer some re-assurance.

For example, increase warranty terms. Maybe add some fancy anti-malware/virus/ransomware software that not only protects the NAS but also the other devices like phones and PCs. Free cloud backup, or something.

In the end the brand survives from sales, and not from only smart tech people (minority) buying their products. Why do you think Apple is such a huge company? Because of all the smart tech people buying Apple products?
I've dealt with their CS before and using the help desk app in the NAS they've been no worse than any other company that opertates in a different time zone and has a ticketing system. Most people on here blame problems they've caused either through lack of awareness or lack of ability on QNAP. Most people who have a CS interaction are people with problems, those with no issues rarely leave reviews.

And I'll be honest, when I see people complaining about tech, I've been a sysadmin long enough to know it's 99% their own fault. And I won't go back to the NSA, even if they beg. farking scummy agency.
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ranranDec 04, 2021 02:24 PM
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Being a QNAP TS-253Be owner and relatively 'techie'.....I'm satisfied with the tech and do think it's good..... however owndes of any NAS need to realize this tech is *not* a set-and-forget proposition. As soon as a network is connected, you have to accept responsibility for learning how to monitor and keep abreast of things...

If I didn't have one, I'd still seriously consider this - if I need a 6-bay.

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