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US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (Nov '21 - April '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

7.12% Interest

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U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

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About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Note: This popular deal is still available.

U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

Thanks to community member dn90003 for sharing this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Written by BostonGirl
Refer to the forum thread here for more information and details.

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Written by dn90003

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Looks tempting. But these are only rated for inflation as fixed rate is 0%. Once inflation is back down, your rate will go down with it.
In case you're wondering, here's how the rate is computed:
Composite rate =
No, these are govt bonds. They stay in the treasury. I bonds are based on the rate of inflation. They have a fixed rate plus the current rate of inflation. Inflation goes up, you earn more. It was 3.54%. Rates went up on 11/1. To realize the full benefit you need to buy before the rates change on 5/1 and 11/1. No fees or penalties. Hold for a min.of a year. If you cash out in less than 5 years you forfeit 3 months interest. After 5 years, you don't pay anything. You can only buy $10k/yr and then up to an additional $5k if purchased directly from your tax refund.
I bought $10k in denominations of 2,3, 5 so if I want to cash out I can do it in chunks instead of having to cash out $10k.: Better than any CD or bank rate if you want to stay in cash.
By the way, using your tax refund to purchase bonds won't count toward your $10k yearly limit.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...eature.htm

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Quote from foxfai :
By the way, using your tax refund to purchase bonds won't count toward your $10k yearly limit.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...eature.htm [treasurydirect.gov]
What's a tax refund?
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Mine crypto, rather than this BS...ready for downvotes, but it's truth
Sure, have you seen how well the crypto market has been doing the past few weeks?
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Thanks I put the max, and will double it on January 1st due to the limit. The stock market has extra uncertainty due to covid making this more attractive.
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Quote from 17judge :
You need to hold the ibonds for a year before cashing them in. Your math is wrong. Lets say the interest rate for next 6 months is .1%. Your total return after a year is greater than $356. Try your math lesson again and show your work.
You mean you can't cancel this bond after 6 months?
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Quote from SlickCrowd6832 :
You mean you can't cancel this bond after 6 months?
Minimum 12 months as everyone has been saying.
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Quote from Cmurphy16 :
Minimum 12 months as everyone has been saying.
WOW....

So this is like... maybe 3.5% rate over the twelve months.
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Quote from SlickCrowd6832 :
You mean you can't cancel this bond after 6 months?
12 months is the earliest you can cash out. As many have quoted you before, the math is 6 months at 7.12 and 6 months at whatever rate. The penalty is 3 months of that whatever rate. On a 10K purchase, it is $356 for the first six months and the penalty is 3 months of whatever rate the second six months has.

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Quote from SlickCrowd6832 :
WOW....

So this is like... maybe 3.5% rate over the twelve months.
Probably much more because inflation will not drop that much by April. The big issue is if you pull it out after 12 months and before 60 months. You will be penalized for 90 days of interest. This is a no brainer if you have cash laying around.
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Quote from SlickCrowd6832 :
WOW....

So this is like... maybe 3.5% rate over the twelve months.
If inflation goes up it could be 10% ..
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Quote from Nattefrost :
When can I cash (redeem) an I bond if I need the money?
You can cash your Series I bonds any time after 12 months. You receive the original purchase price plus interest earnings. I bonds are meant to be longer-term investments; if you redeem an I bond within the first 5 years, you'll lose your last 3 months interest. For example, if you redeem an I bond after 18 months, you'll receive the first 15 months of interest.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...s_ifaq.htm
Keep it in there until the rate drops below what a CD is and then pull it. Easy peezy. Interest is deferred so no tax until you pull. It has out performed CD's all but 2 or 3 six month periods over past two decades. I may need to fact checked on this but I'm close. Right now 10 to 1 over CD. LOL
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Sure, have you seen how well the crypto market has been doing the past few weeks?
Well he did say "mine crypto" which you can then sell for profits. If you spend $10k on equipment you can mine around $600-700/month.
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Quote from bchill :
Probably much more because inflation will not drop that much by April. The big issue is if you pull it out after 12 months and before 60 months. You will be penalized for 90 days of interest. This is a no brainer if you have cash laying around.
The idiocy within this post is unfathomable. If you don't see the value in buying into these bonds, you are part of the problem. This is not directed at you, obviously.
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Quote from HilariousRecess268 :
Keep in mind that CPI is a year-over-year percentage. You are not seeing 5% one month after the next. For example if CPI was 12%, that would be an average of 1% a month for the past 12 months. Don't even get me started about all the games they play to fudge the CPI.
Check out these charts based on the older methods of calculating CPI:
http://www.shadowstats.com/altern...ion-charts
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Quote from SlickCrowd6832 :
You may need a math lesson..

And it most likely will drop to .1% not 1%... WOW.

Now for your math lesson.

$10K @6 months = $356
Less: 3 months of interest... $178.
I am sure you know your Math but the least you can do is to do little research on the subject before going all over the place and give out mis information.

It is VERY unlikely to go to 0.1%

The bonds reset the rate on May 1 2022, and we already have 2 months reference
Sept/Oct 2021 change is 0.83%
Oct/Nov 2021 change is 0.49%
2 months in we have a change of Sept-Nov 1.33% which annualize to 2.66%

If the rest of the 4 months we have 0% inflation you still get 1.33%
We will ASSUME the inflation is ZERO for the next 4 months so you get
10K @3.56% 6 months = $356
10K @ 1.33% 3 months = $76.5
Total interest with penalty = 432.5
It is al least 4%+ interest for 12 months if you factor in 3 months penalty and assume that the next 4 months has 0% inflation. Now let me know where can I get a 1 year 4% CD

No one say iBond it is the best investment in the world but it is a very safe investment

1. Credit agency rated US government AAA rating, this is the best rating any country can get.

2. A 2 years US treasury give you @ 0.632%, so 4% is like 6X more return

3. I have not see any CD give me more than 4% return the last 5 year have you?

Yes, people said you can do CC Bonus, Bank Bonus, everything else to 4% interest sure I do all that too, I rake in few thousands each year on those, but why do I still buy iBond? Because I don't need to do anything and it give me 4%!!
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Quote from keung :


It is VERY unlikely to go to 0.1%
The bonds reset the rate on May 1 2022, and we already have 2 months reference
Sept/Oct 2021 change is 0.83%
Oct/Nov 2021 change is 0.49%
2 months in we have a change of Sept-Nov 1.33% which annualize to 2.66%
If the rest of the 4 months we have 0% inflation you still get 1.33%
We will ASSUME the inflation is ZERO for the next 4 months so you get
10K @3.56% 6 months = $356
10K @ 1.33% 3 months = $76.5
Total interest with penalty = 432.5
It is al least 4%+ interest for 12 months if you factor in 3 months penalty and assume that the next 4 months has 0% inflation. Now let me know where can I get a 1 year 4% CD
Logic doesn't make sense to retards. Don't waste your bandwidth trying to explain common sense.
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