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US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (Nov '21 - April '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

7.12% Interest

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U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

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About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

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Note: This popular deal is still available.

U.S, Government Treasury is currently offering 7.12% Interest Rate in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from November 2021 through April 2022. Limit of $10,000 / year in interest earnings per person.

Thanks to community member dn90003 for sharing this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
  • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
  • You may use Series I bonds to:
    • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
    • Supplement your retirement income
    • Give as a gift
    • Pay for education
    • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • For bonds issued from November 2021 through April 2022, the combined rate is 7.12%

Editor's Notes

Written by BostonGirl
Refer to the forum thread here for more information and details.

Original Post

Written by dn90003

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Looks tempting. But these are only rated for inflation as fixed rate is 0%. Once inflation is back down, your rate will go down with it.
In case you're wondering, here's how the rate is computed:
Composite rate =
No, these are govt bonds. They stay in the treasury. I bonds are based on the rate of inflation. They have a fixed rate plus the current rate of inflation. Inflation goes up, you earn more. It was 3.54%. Rates went up on 11/1. To realize the full benefit you need to buy before the rates change on 5/1 and 11/1. No fees or penalties. Hold for a min.of a year. If you cash out in less than 5 years you forfeit 3 months interest. After 5 years, you don't pay anything. You can only buy $10k/yr and then up to an additional $5k if purchased directly from your tax refund.
I bought $10k in denominations of 2,3, 5 so if I want to cash out I can do it in chunks instead of having to cash out $10k.: Better than any CD or bank rate if you want to stay in cash.
By the way, using your tax refund to purchase bonds won't count toward your $10k yearly limit.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...eature.htm

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For those that want to bypass the virtual keyboard:

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Cool thread, any other relatively risk-free yield products available that you guys have run across? Checking account bonus churning seems like one, anything else?
Checking, savings, brokerage, and credit card signup bonuses.
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Quote from vinban1 :
Does not seem to be a good option. For I bonds, fixed rate is set as 0%. Means, all you will ever get is the Inflation rate. There is also a lock-in of 5 years if one does not want to lose any interest.
Knowing that Interest rates are going to rise in next 3-9 months, it does not seem to be a good option to invest now.
Assuming you sell at exactly 1 year, you lock in the 7.12% annualized for 6 months so about 3.5 plus half (3 month penalty) of the next 6 months. For a risk free rate, you're beating everything out there including short term bonds. If rates drop, you just sell after a year, if they are reasonable you keep. The opportunity risk here is low if this is your safe money. No one should be dumping stock money into this
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Quote from sam_ay :
I only have an Online bank account anymore. How do you get a signature from an online bank account?
This is why I still have a backup B&M bank account. About once every 2 years, I need to visit the branch that can't be done online.

Quote from uberw00tness :
For those that want to bypass the virtual keyboard:

Create a new bookmark, and set the address to:
Code:
javascript:(function(){$(".pwordinput").attr("readonly","")})()
When you get to the password page, click the bookmark and now you should be able to paste in from your password manager.
Thanks for the great tip.
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Quote from dealzslick :
Assuming you sell at exactly 1 year, you lock in the 7.12% annualized for 6 months so about 3.5 plus half (3 month penalty) of the next 6 months. For a risk free rate, you're beating everything out there including short term bonds. If rates drop, you just sell after a year, if they are reasonable you keep. The opportunity risk here is low if this is your safe money. No one should be dumping stock money into this
I agree. I had the same plan when I bought my first I Bonds back in 2003 with a 1.1% fixed rate. Interest rates were dropping rapidly, but how much lower could they go? They dropped lower and have never recovered to the point where it made sense to sell. I planned to sell the bonds after the first year.

The point is you can never know where interest rates are going. For the cash portion of your portfolio, diversify that too. Keep some in a high yield savings account, buy some CDs with various maturities and get some solid bonds also. If you need to understand this plan, look up "laddering CDs". The idea is to smooth out the changes in interest rates. When your CDs mature, you keep buying on a regular basis. This allows you to take advantage when interest rates are high an decrease the effect of low interest rates. A similar methodology applied to stocks or mutual funds is called "dollar cost averaging".
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Quote from HilariousRecess268 :
I agree. I had the same plan when I bought my first I Bonds back in 2003 with a 1.1% fixed rate. Interest rates were dropping rapidly, but how much lower could they go? They dropped lower and have never recovered to the point where it made sense to sell. I planned to sell the bonds after the first year.

The point is you can never know where interest rates are going. For the cash portion of your portfolio, diversify that too. Keep some in a high yield savings account, buy some CDs with various maturities and get some solid bonds also. If you need to understand this plan, look up "laddering CDs". The idea is to smooth out the changes in interest rates. When your CDs mature, you keep buying on a regular basis. This allows you to take advantage when interest rates are high an decrease the effect of low interest rates. A similar methodology applied to stocks or mutual funds is called "dollar cost averaging".
I still have a bunch of bonds from 2002 that I intended to sell as well. Then I forgot about them. 😄 nice to see that several have doubled. In the process of converting them to electronic for simpler cashing out when ready.
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This seems like good deal but also a huge pain in the ass.
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Quote from Cmurphy16 :
I still have a bunch of bonds from 2002 that I intended to sell as well. Then I forgot about them. 😄 nice to see that several have doubled. In the process of converting them to electronic for simpler cashing out when ready.
Would be so sweet if they let you buy them with credit cards like they did back then!

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Unfortunately, Biden says many things to calm the American people. I should say anyone who is listening to him.
Exactly! Biden is a lifetime politician, nothing more. Absolutely no expertise in economics. If he was an economic expert, he would not be trying to push through a gigantic social welfare spending package at the time inflation was at it's highest, and then claim inflation has peaked.
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Thanks everyone for all the good information
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I've never invested money in an I bond before so I'm going to ask some questions that are sure to make more experienced investors shake their head so bear with me:

If I buy an I bond online, I'm not going to have a paper bond sent to me in the US mail, correct ?
Will I receive any kind of paperwork in the US mail that I can add to my will and my paperwork for my children when I pass away ?
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Quote from WiseSwallow794 :
This seems like good deal but also a huge pain in the ass.
How so ?
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Quote from talkbackfreebie :
I've never invested money in an I bond before so I'm going to ask some questions that are sure to make more experienced investors shake their head so bear with me:

If I buy an I bond online, I'm not going to have a paper bond sent to me in the US mail, correct ?
Will I receive any kind of paperwork in the US mail that I can add to my will and my paperwork for my children when I pass away ?
Correct. No paper bond in that case.
You can print out 1099-INT form. But no paper mail.
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Feds raising interest 3x next year won't it impact ibonds negatively?
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Quote from Nattefrost :
Feds raising interest 3x next year won't it impact ibonds negatively?
Currently, the new I-bond variable rates are 100% determined by the inflation rate. If your 3x Fed funds rate hike curtails the inflation rate in future, the i-bond will pay lower rate than now. But still likely to be higher than HYSA.

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Quote from sixty :
why should I buy this over S&P500 index funds?
You should buy it "in addition to" S&P 500 index funds.

I dropped $10k from our emergency fund into it. Something we can make do without for at least 12 months.

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