Google Nest Thermostat + Nest Hub (2nd Gen)

mrkmrk69

Dec 19, 2021 5:45 AM

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mrkmrk69Dec 19, 2021 5:45 AM

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Great price but the chalk fabric is for a museum!!

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AndresSev7n

Dec 19, 2021 5:48 AM

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AndresSev7nDec 19, 2021 5:48 AM

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Can't ignore it!!! Up for it!!!

seanultra

Dec 19, 2021 6:49 AM

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I guess it's a decent deal if you need a nest hub which is worth around $50 right now.

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Dudenell

Dec 19, 2021 7:35 AM

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DudenellDec 19, 2021 7:35 AM

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Is there a reason these new nest thermostats are super cheap compared to the 3rd gen?

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Kumicho

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Assuming that this is the base level Nest thermostat, keep in mind that your energy company might have massive rebates on it. I just picked one up for $5, including shipping. It would have been $15 for my parents house.

Just an FYI.

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larrybeo

Dec 19, 2021 8:27 AM

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This isn't a good product. Most people who argue that statement hasn't had experience with another "smart" thermostat. I much prefer the Ecobee line, because the Ecobee presents better data analysis every month, and allows the user more control of the automation. Google doesn't automatically revert your temps back to a set level after a certain time like Ecobee does. If you set the temperature for 78 degrees then go to sleep, Google will keep the temperature there forever until you change it again. While it is true that Google will "learn" a schedule and bounce the temps up and down 15 times a day with no clear rhyme or reason, With an Ecobee it it automatically raises/lowers the temp to the zone that you set after a certain time period. This is useful for if you like to raise the temp then go to sleep and have it drop during the night, or raise the temp in the morning then lower it again when you leave. Google doesn't allow for the temp to automatically change in these scenarios. Instead it has to "learn" it which hasn't worked in 7 months. I ended up replacing the Nest in my new condo with an Ecobee. Seems frivolous but that's how much more advanced the Ecobee is over the Nest.

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fyu

Dec 19, 2021 8:55 AM

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Quote from Dudenell

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Is there a reason these new nest thermostats are super cheap compared to the 3rd gen?

It's basically a thermostat with wifi.
No smarts or fancy features

pfluger

Dec 19, 2021 9:14 AM

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Quote from larrybeo

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This isn't a good product. Most people who argue that statement hasn't had experience with another "smart" thermostat. I much prefer the Ecobee line, because the Ecobee presents better data analysis every month, and allows the user more control of the automation. Google doesn't automatically revert your temps back to a set level after a certain time like Ecobee does. If you set the temperature for 78 degrees then go to sleep, Google will keep the temperature there forever until you change it again. While it is true that Google will "learn" a schedule and bounce the temps up and down 15 times a day with no clear rhyme or reason, With an Ecobee it it automatically raises/lowers the temp to the zone that you set after a certain time period. This is useful for if you like to raise the temp then go to sleep and have it drop during the night, or raise the temp in the morning then lower it again when you leave. Google doesn't allow for the temp to automatically change in these scenarios. Instead it has to "learn" it which hasn't worked in 7 months. I ended up replacing the Nest in my new condo with an Ecobee. Seems frivolous but that's how much more advanced the Ecobee is over the Nest.

Not to forget that Nest thermostats have a fixed maintenance band/temperature swing of I think 1°F up and down. Might work for some but not for others. That was the main reason I replaced the Nest. It is always either too hot or too cold.

Ecobee's maintenance band can be set as low as 0.5°F, which is what most "dumb" thermostats have.

I did like the design and feel of the Nest though.

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SeriousFriction618

Dec 19, 2021 11:32 AM

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Quote from larrybeo

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This isn't a good product. Most people who argue that statement hasn't had experience with another "smart" thermostat. I much prefer the Ecobee line, because the Ecobee presents better data analysis every month, and allows the user more control of the automation. Google doesn't automatically revert your temps back to a set level after a certain time like Ecobee does. If you set the temperature for 78 degrees then go to sleep, Google will keep the temperature there forever until you change it again. While it is true that Google will "learn" a schedule and bounce the temps up and down 15 times a day with no clear rhyme or reason, With an Ecobee it it automatically raises/lowers the temp to the zone that you set after a certain time period. This is useful for if you like to raise the temp then go to sleep and have it drop during the night, or raise the temp in the morning then lower it again when you leave. Google doesn't allow for the temp to automatically change in these scenarios. Instead it has to "learn" it which hasn't worked in 7 months. I ended up replacing the Nest in my new condo with an Ecobee. Seems frivolous but that's how much more advanced the Ecobee is over the Nest.

I have Nest older model though but it lets you set schedule and it reverts to your set temp setting at whatever time interval you set in schedule and it works fine. No bounce at all works like charm on schedule. No experience with ecobee though

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Jobeby

Dec 19, 2021 12:56 PM

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Quote from larrybeo

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This isn't a good product. Most people who argue that statement hasn't had experience with another "smart" thermostat. I much prefer the Ecobee line, because the Ecobee presents better data analysis every month, and allows the user more control of the automation. Google doesn't automatically revert your temps back to a set level after a certain time like Ecobee does. If you set the temperature for 78 degrees then go to sleep, Google will keep the temperature there forever until you change it again. While it is true that Google will "learn" a schedule and bounce the temps up and down 15 times a day with no clear rhyme or reason, With an Ecobee it it automatically raises/lowers the temp to the zone that you set after a certain time period. This is useful for if you like to raise the temp then go to sleep and have it drop during the night, or raise the temp in the morning then lower it again when you leave. Google doesn't allow for the temp to automatically change in these scenarios. Instead it has to "learn" it which hasn't worked in 7 months. I ended up replacing the Nest in my new condo with an Ecobee. Seems frivolous but that's how much more advanced the Ecobee is over the Nest.

This is the Nest Thermostat E, not the Nest Learning Thermostat. This thermostat allows you to set a schedule for as many changes a day as you want at what specific times, and if you change manually from the schedule, at your set time the schedule was set, it will revert back to that temperature so you don't have to worry about your change being permanent. This thermostat will know when you're away based on your phones, location and set away temperatures and we'll know when you're home based on your phone's location. It gives you HVAC alerts. If it's taking longer for your home to heat or cool then usual, gives you reminders to change the filter, and shows you how long it's been running. You can export your data to an external analysis app, and you'll get so much more than what you see in the Google Home app. Just FYI. I'm not arguing the Ecobee is smarter than this because it is. This is the basic Nest. But even for the other nest, they now have an option for you to export data and get better analysis. I personally love the Nest Thermostat E. It does everything I want because it's only a programmable thermostat, shows me when it's running, turns up or down automatically when I leave the house, And when I come back. Sends me alerts and follows my schedule I've set for it.

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basstracker34

Dec 19, 2021 1:15 PM

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basstracker34Dec 19, 2021 1:15 PM

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Purchased. We'll get a $50 rebate with utility company as well. Already have a nest hub so will return that to get our $50 on the extra one too.

d0d0

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Quote from pfluger

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Not to forget that Nest thermostats have a fixed maintenance band/temperature swing of I think 1°F up and down. Might work for some but not for others. That was the main reason I replaced the Nest. It is always either too hot or too cold.

Ecobee's maintenance band can be set as low as 0.5°F, which is what most "dumb" thermostats have.

I did like the design and feel of the Nest though.

hi, can you set the band to 2degree for ecobee? TIA

amaximeya

Dec 19, 2021 1:44 PM

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amaximeyaDec 19, 2021 1:44 PM

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Quote from joshua.b.bynum

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This is the Nest Thermostat E, not the Nest Learning Thermostat. This thermostat allows you to set a schedule for as many changes a day as you want at what specific times, and if you change manually from the schedule, at your set time the schedule was set, it will revert back to that temperature so you don't have to worry about your change being permanent. This thermostat will know when you're away based on your phones, location and set away temperatures and we'll know when you're home based on your phone's location. It gives you HVAC alerts. If it's taking longer for your home to heat or cool then usual, gives you reminders to change the filter, and shows you how long it's been running. You can export your data to an external analysis app, and you'll get so much more than what you see in the Google Home app. Just FYI. I'm not arguing the Ecobee is smarter than this because it is. This is the basic Nest. But even for the other nest, they now have an option for you to export data and get better analysis. I personally love the Nest Thermostat E. It does everything I want because it's only a programmable thermostat, shows me when it's running, turns up or down automatically when I leave the house, And when I come back. Sends me alerts and follows my schedule I've set for it.

Thanks for the insight. Have two of these in our home and they work welll. However the google home ap is kind of bare bones (especially since we previously had a nest learning thermostat with the nest ap). What external ap are you referencing for more data insights?

Cwhomer

Dec 19, 2021 2:09 PM

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CwhomerDec 19, 2021 2:09 PM

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Quote from joshua.b.bynum

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This is the Nest Thermostat E, not the Nest Learning Thermostat. This thermostat allows you to set a schedule for as many changes a day as you want at what specific times, and if you change manually from the schedule, at your set time the schedule was set, it will revert back to that temperature so you don't have to worry about your change being permanent. This thermostat will know when you're away based on your phones, location and set away temperatures and we'll know when you're home based on your phone's location. It gives you HVAC alerts. If it's taking longer for your home to heat or cool then usual, gives you reminders to change the filter, and shows you how long it's been running. You can export your data to an external analysis app, and you'll get so much more than what you see in the Google Home app. Just FYI. I'm not arguing the Ecobee is smarter than this because it is. This is the basic Nest. But even for the other nest, they now have an option for you to export data and get better analysis. I personally love the Nest Thermostat E. It does everything I want because it's only a programmable thermostat, shows me when it's running, turns up or down automatically when I leave the house, And when I come back. Sends me alerts and follows my schedule I've set for it.

Thanks for the clarification, I'm grabbing one!

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