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As a first time homeowner, I'm always curious what household tasks I can do on my own versus hiring someone to do it. The biggest thing for me has been doing it on my own time and not having to wait for their availability.
If something breaks, it's just another opportunity to learn to fix something. To each their own.
Wonder how you would blow out/winterize an in-ground sprinkler with this.
Having hired sprinkler companies for years to do so, I would watch them blow every last bit of water from each zone. More recently, I realized that's just for show. When water expands to ice, it only increases by 9%. No need to get 100% out. Get 30% out and it should have plenty of room to expand without cracking the pipes.
Remember a plumber telling me he could protect a sprinkler system from freezing using a pancake compressor. Instead of asking him how, I thought he was wrong.
I've realized I was wrong for not asking him how.
I have a 20 gallon compressor and before the 9% freezing expansion realization, would run each zone thru 2 cycles to make sure ALL the water was out. Now, only run each zone once. Know for sure that with 20 gallons most of the water is blown out with the one pass.
With this one guessing you still may have to cycle through each zone 2 -3 x.
This compressor does 2.4cfm at 90psi, which is pretty low for air tools.
There's a chart on this page[northerntool.com] that shows how much air is typically needed for a variety of tools. Your specific tools might be different, so check the manufacturer specs before ruling it out.
This units boasts of 135 Max PSI with 3.7 SCFM at 40 PSI and 2.3 SCFM at 90 PSI.
From an article I found online:
How to Blow Out Sprinkler Systems
Using an air compressor with the recommended PSI and CFM ratings (50 PSI and 20-50 CFM)
I'm new to this, but graphing the data in my head leads me to believe this compressor can't swing 50 PSI at 20-50 CFM. Yes, SCFM is different than CFM. In comparison to SCFM, CFM values are always a smaller number as they are calculated at a higher pressure which decreases the volume of gas and makes it smaller.
So.. Someone smarter than me, please help me understand if this thing can blow out sprinkler lines or pool lines. I'm assuming it can't.. Or isn't ideal for it, at minimum.
Thanks!
For the inground sprinkler system I'm thinking it can, BUT at a minimum would have to cycle through each zone probably 3 times, maybe more. With a 20 gallon compressor, which sometimes can be found for around $200, same could be done in much less time because you do it once for each zone. Also, little downside if it doesn't work. Fix a few cracks in underground sprinkler pipe.
For a pool, I've seen people use Shop Vacs on exhaust. Don't need the higher pressure that you do to pop up the sprinkler heads so they can spray. You do need the higher volume of air though…thus the shop vac technique. The downside to messing up on pool is much higher than sprinkler system. Some people have concrete decks around the pool which would need to be dug up to make the repair. New concrete isn't going to match the old concrete. Much easier to dig up grass and replace, than the grief with concrete or other expensive decking. That's why my neighbor and myself pay someone to winterize the pool but we blow out our own sprinkler lines. Also, other pool items like heaters, pumps, filters are a lot more expensive to replace than a short length of sprinkler line or a sprinkler head.
It will work, but it will not be efficient or good for the health of the compressor to do it on a regular basis. It will keep running to keep air pressure to keep up with the air tool. It will be fine to do it here and there like cleaning rust off a lawn chair or something. But running a die grinder to clear the rust on a car restoration would be bad.
Also consider garage space. If you're not aiming to transport your compressor and can just leave it on a corner, consider a vertical compressor with a long reel hose. I have a 100ft hose with a vertical compressor sitting in the corner. The 100ft hose can get to all corners of my garage, sprinkler backflow around the house and even cars parked on the street if needed.
The vertical compressor takes up less space, but they do cost about 2 or 3x.
Wonder how you would blow out/winterize an in-ground sprinkler with this.
Having hired sprinkler companies for years to do so, I would watch them blow every last bit of water from each zone. More recently, I realized that's just for show. When water expands to ice, it only increases by 9%. No need to get 100% out. Get 30% out and it should have plenty of room to expand without cracking the pipes.
Remember a plumber telling me he could protect a sprinkler system from freezing using a pancake compressor. Instead of asking him how, I thought he was wrong.
I've realized I was wrong for not asking him how.
I have a 20 gallon compressor and before the 9% freezing expansion realization, would run each zone thru 2 cycles to make sure ALL the water was out. Now, only run each zone once. Know for sure that with 20 gallons most of the water is blown out with the one pass.
With this one guessing you still may have to cycle through each zone 2 -3 x.
Sold my old 8 gall loud vertical, May try this out since quiet model. Worse case return…not bad with accessories either. No it won't run air tools more for nailing/stapling and inflation.
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Sold my old 8 gall loud vertical, May try this out since quiet model. Worse case return…not bad with accessories either. No it won't run air tools more for nailing/stapling and inflation.
Just ordered the Briggs & Stratton BSAK621 62-Piece Air Tool Kit mentioned in an older thread...hoping this compressor at least works for small jobs. You don't think it will?
I've been "saving" a lot of money at Walmart today. Ordered the craftsman nailers from Lowes too.
Question, do you think this compressor has the proper adapter to plug it into your sprinkler system? There are two ports On my Backflow preventer. Do I need to buy something special to fit those port? And which port should I put it in??
You can buy a quick fit adapter that goes into one of your drain ports. I found it easier to blow out lines with a silcock adapter blowing out lines to the back flow. Then I have another port right after the pvb and blow out the outlet side of the pvb, shut off the valve to the pvb then blow out each zone. Using a small pancake to blow out, never had an issue..takes multiple times but does the job.
For the inground sprinkler system I'm thinking it can, BUT at a minimum would have to cycle through each zone probably 3 times, maybe more. With a 20 gallon compressor, which sometimes can be found for around $200, same could be done in much less time because you do it once for each zone. Also, little downside if it doesn't work. Fix a few cracks in underground sprinkler pipe.
For a pool, I've seen people use Shop Vacs on exhaust. Don't need the higher pressure that you do to pop up the sprinkler heads so they can spray. You do need the higher volume of air though…thus the shop vac technique. The downside to messing up on pool is much higher than sprinkler system. Some people have concrete decks around the pool which would need to be dug up to make the repair. New concrete isn't going to match the old concrete. Much easier to dig up grass and replace, than the grief with concrete or other expensive decking. That's why my neighbor and myself pay someone to winterize the pool but we blow out our own sprinkler lines. Also, other pool items like heaters, pumps, filters are a lot more expensive to replace than a short length of sprinkler line or a sprinkler head.
With this, isn't taking out water three times a bit much? Like another poster said water expands by only 9%. I've read most people overestimate how much water needs to be pumped out. You don't need to pump out everything. You need to take out enough to leave air in there. My guess is if you have closed the valve, and run it even once it should be enough. But of course, I'm no professional and might be incorrect.
Personally I have an 8-zone sprinkler. This is my first winter in this house and few of my neighbors simply pitch in and rent a small pancake sprinkler and run it through each zone once. They said they've been doing it for over 10 years without issue. I read up and found the same - don't need to get it all out. So figured it was okay. That's what we did earlier this year. Cost us $10 each. Hoping I'm not being penny wise pound foolish. 🙄
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Every thread with air compressors talks about this.
I don't get it. The yearly maintenance also includes fixing broken/worn heads, testing, etc. How much are you guys paying for your yearly maintenance to want to avoid the expense? I understand saving even a few bucks, but the company I switched to is around $160. It just seems like asking for trouble to go to completely DIY.
$160? How big is your sprinkler system? You must have a multie acre yard.
Every thread with air compressors talks about this.
I don't get it. The yearly maintenance also includes fixing broken/worn heads, testing, etc. How much are you guys paying for your yearly maintenance to want to avoid the expense? I understand saving even a few bucks, but the company I switched to is around $160. It just seems like asking for trouble to go to completely DIY.
Unless you run a business ripping off people for the simplest tasks I do not see a point in this post at all.
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Just ordered the Briggs & Stratton BSAK621 62-Piece Air Tool Kit mentioned in an older thread...hoping this compressor at least works for small jobs. You don't think it will?
I've been "saving" a lot of money at Walmart today. Ordered the craftsman nailers from Lowes too.
This compressor does 2.4cfm at 90psi, which is pretty low for air tools.
There's a chart on this page[northerntool.com] that shows how much air is typically needed for a variety of tools. Your specific tools might be different, so check the manufacturer specs before ruling it out.
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$160? How big is your sprinkler system? You must have a multie acre yard.
It's called a rural area with lack of competition and the company that is doing it is a good number of miles away. The original company was more than that.
My guess is the percentage of number of households with a sprinkler system is in the low single digits in my county.
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If something breaks, it's just another opportunity to learn to fix something. To each their own.
Having hired sprinkler companies for years to do so, I would watch them blow every last bit of water from each zone. More recently, I realized that's just for show. When water expands to ice, it only increases by 9%. No need to get 100% out. Get 30% out and it should have plenty of room to expand without cracking the pipes.
Remember a plumber telling me he could protect a sprinkler system from freezing using a pancake compressor. Instead of asking him how, I thought he was wrong.
I've realized I was wrong for not asking him how.
I have a 20 gallon compressor and before the 9% freezing expansion realization, would run each zone thru 2 cycles to make sure ALL the water was out. Now, only run each zone once. Know for sure that with 20 gallons most of the water is blown out with the one pass.
With this one guessing you still may have to cycle through each zone 2 -3 x.
There's a chart on this page [northerntool.com] that shows how much air is typically needed for a variety of tools. Your specific tools might be different, so check the manufacturer specs before ruling it out.
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This units boasts of 135 Max PSI with 3.7 SCFM at 40 PSI and 2.3 SCFM at 90 PSI.
From an article I found online:
How to Blow Out Sprinkler Systems
Using an air compressor with the recommended PSI and CFM ratings (50 PSI and 20-50 CFM)
I'm new to this, but graphing the data in my head leads me to believe this compressor can't swing 50 PSI at 20-50 CFM. Yes, SCFM is different than CFM. In comparison to SCFM, CFM values are always a smaller number as they are calculated at a higher pressure which decreases the volume of gas and makes it smaller.
So.. Someone smarter than me, please help me understand if this thing can blow out sprinkler lines or pool lines. I'm assuming it can't.. Or isn't ideal for it, at minimum.
Thanks!
For a pool, I've seen people use Shop Vacs on exhaust. Don't need the higher pressure that you do to pop up the sprinkler heads so they can spray. You do need the higher volume of air though…thus the shop vac technique. The downside to messing up on pool is much higher than sprinkler system. Some people have concrete decks around the pool which would need to be dug up to make the repair. New concrete isn't going to match the old concrete. Much easier to dig up grass and replace, than the grief with concrete or other expensive decking. That's why my neighbor and myself pay someone to winterize the pool but we blow out our own sprinkler lines. Also, other pool items like heaters, pumps, filters are a lot more expensive to replace than a short length of sprinkler line or a sprinkler head.
The vertical compressor takes up less space, but they do cost about 2 or 3x.
Having hired sprinkler companies for years to do so, I would watch them blow every last bit of water from each zone. More recently, I realized that's just for show. When water expands to ice, it only increases by 9%. No need to get 100% out. Get 30% out and it should have plenty of room to expand without cracking the pipes.
Remember a plumber telling me he could protect a sprinkler system from freezing using a pancake compressor. Instead of asking him how, I thought he was wrong.
I've realized I was wrong for not asking him how.
I have a 20 gallon compressor and before the 9% freezing expansion realization, would run each zone thru 2 cycles to make sure ALL the water was out. Now, only run each zone once. Know for sure that with 20 gallons most of the water is blown out with the one pass.
With this one guessing you still may have to cycle through each zone 2 -3 x.
Or for a big property you rent a tow along compressor with super high volume.
Those are the only ways I've done it.
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Just ordered the Briggs & Stratton BSAK621 62-Piece Air Tool Kit mentioned in an older thread...hoping this compressor at least works for small jobs. You don't think it will?
I've been "saving" a lot of money at Walmart today. Ordered the craftsman nailers from Lowes too.
B&S kit link:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Briggs...t/49096268
For a pool, I've seen people use Shop Vacs on exhaust. Don't need the higher pressure that you do to pop up the sprinkler heads so they can spray. You do need the higher volume of air though…thus the shop vac technique. The downside to messing up on pool is much higher than sprinkler system. Some people have concrete decks around the pool which would need to be dug up to make the repair. New concrete isn't going to match the old concrete. Much easier to dig up grass and replace, than the grief with concrete or other expensive decking. That's why my neighbor and myself pay someone to winterize the pool but we blow out our own sprinkler lines. Also, other pool items like heaters, pumps, filters are a lot more expensive to replace than a short length of sprinkler line or a sprinkler head.
Personally I have an 8-zone sprinkler. This is my first winter in this house and few of my neighbors simply pitch in and rent a small pancake sprinkler and run it through each zone once. They said they've been doing it for over 10 years without issue. I read up and found the same - don't need to get it all out. So figured it was okay. That's what we did earlier this year. Cost us $10 each. Hoping I'm not being penny wise pound foolish. 🙄
I don't get it. The yearly maintenance also includes fixing broken/worn heads, testing, etc. How much are you guys paying for your yearly maintenance to want to avoid the expense? I understand saving even a few bucks, but the company I switched to is around $160. It just seems like asking for trouble to go to completely DIY.
I don't get it. The yearly maintenance also includes fixing broken/worn heads, testing, etc. How much are you guys paying for your yearly maintenance to want to avoid the expense? I understand saving even a few bucks, but the company I switched to is around $160. It just seems like asking for trouble to go to completely DIY.
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I've been "saving" a lot of money at Walmart today. Ordered the craftsman nailers from Lowes too.
B&S kit link:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Briggs...t/49096268 [walmart.com]
There's a chart on this page [northerntool.com] that shows how much air is typically needed for a variety of tools. Your specific tools might be different, so check the manufacturer specs before ruling it out.
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My guess is the percentage of number of households with a sprinkler system is in the low single digits in my county.
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