Rated 4.7 stars out of 5 overall based on 15,500+ reviews on Amazon
"The Eye of the World, the first novel in Robert Jordan's #1 New York Times bestselling epic fantasy series, The Wheel of Time, follows Moiraine Damodred as she arrives in Emond's Field on a quest to find the one prophesized to stand against The Dark One."
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Rated 4.7 stars out of 5 overall based on 15,500+ reviews on Amazon
"The Eye of the World, the first novel in Robert Jordan's #1 New York Times bestselling epic fantasy series, The Wheel of Time, follows Moiraine Damodred as she arrives in Emond's Field on a quest to find the one prophesized to stand against The Dark One."
Wonder how many people watched the TV series and decided to read the book.
Yeah, the TV show was a mixed bag and I can understand why a lot of fans who have read the book(s) were disappointed...but I felt it could have been worse.
But then I watched the 6 short animated episodes (that were hidden or something in the TV show episodes)...and they were so good and true to the books that it actually pushed me more to not like the TV show which deviated quite a bit by the end.
The show had a lot of issues, but the "woke issue" is pretty negligible compared to the bigger problems. It's just low hanging fruit that people who are easily triggered can grasp onto. Ironically, it's all based on things that are in the actual books but just made more prominent or tweaked/added onto.
The biggest one being "pillow friends" and what that means. It's made explicitly clear (or as near as possible) in one of the middle books what that means. Yes, a sexual relationship between two women. I think it was a noblewoman and a Sea Folk woman were caught being pillow friends. The Sea Folk woman said it was because she had been away from her husband for so long...then she gets blackmailed because she doesn't want others to know because she's afraid her husband will leave her if he finds out. So yeah...
Two of the characters were pillow friends when they were younger (as stated in the books). I don't think the books ever said they continued that relationship...but the TV show tweaked/added onto that they did. So IMO, not a "woke issue" but a product of them changing characters/story for "adaptation reasons" really. It served one purpose (showing two character working closely in secret) but has the potential to cause problems down the line.
Warders and Aes Sedai relationships...it's in the book. Sometimes they even marry. Orgy stuff...hmm, not in the book?...but I could see it as something that would happen.
Diversity...so the characters in the books have a ton of diversity. But it's geographically and by countries for the most part, the TV show decided to just make all groups of people diverse (so far). I think it's actually a good "adaptation reason" and the cast diversity was a highlight of the show.
The show was like watching a filmed late term abortion. I could overlook the blatant, ham-fisted wokeness that they chose to infuse into the show. What I could not overlook was the absolute butchering of the story and the characters. They lost me for good when instead of laying the story out on screen, they chose to place two characters in a hidden lesbian relationship that was most definitely not in the books and have their pillow talk be exposition of plot points they were too lazy to show. You can't please everyone with an adaptation, but I don't see how you can veer so far from the source and piss off your core audience made up of people who have read all 14 one thousand page books.
My favorite book series of all time! Don't stop reading until you get to chapter 5. You get to know and love the characters in this book series. The way Robert Jordan writes is very descriptive, but it was helpful for me to really envision in my mind what the characters and scenery come to life as a movie in my mind while reading. It's an epic fantasy series and very, very different from the tv show.
Great book but I cannot recommend it while the middle of the series does get slow the books by Sanderson were complete tripe they weren't Jordan they were pure Sanderson and his plot points and endings are as translucent as air *his ending for this series plays out almost exactly as the mistborn ending* so whats the point in starting such a long series to likely be disappointed in the ending?
On a site note DO NOT touch the Amazon show its the pinnacle of not understanding the audience Imagine the last season of game of thrones and then you have the first season of Wheel of time....they literally had a complete book series to draw from and they changed so many things that made no sense.
Great book but I cannot recommend it while the middle of the series does get slow the books by Sanderson were complete tripe they weren't Jordan they were pure Sanderson and his plot points and endings are as translucent as air *his ending for this series plays out almost exactly as the mistborn ending* so whats the point in starting such a long series to likely be disappointed in the ending?
On a site note DO NOT touch the Amazon show its the pinnacle of not understanding the audience Imagine the last season of game of thrones and then you have the first season of Wheel of time....they literally had a complete book series to draw from and they changed so many things that made no sense.
To each his own, but I for one really enjoyed the last three Sanderson books. They tie up most of the dangling plot points and had a much better pacing than the middle books you're bashing on. While I tend to agree that the middle books drag (and I typically review chapter summaries for those and read the endings for each of the books), there are definitely high points to each book and shouldn't be glossed over especially on a first read through. Are the Sanderson books the same as Jordan's. No, and in fact the author himself has said he missed the mark on some of the characters. But are they bad books? Not in the slightest.
There was just an amusing article yesterday how Stephen King almost didn't read GRRM because these books were so bad (his opinion) and he expected more of the same
Now I myself say, like some King works, this series drags a lot in the middle. So much filler
But without it idk if I would have discovered Sanderson who's works are fantastic and not boring
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Great book but I cannot recommend it while the middle of the series does get slow the books by Sanderson were complete tripe they weren't Jordan they were pure Sanderson
Thanks for cluing us in that you know zero about the development process of the final books
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We tried watching the new series. Seems like Lord of the Rings light. Not sure we'll catch the 2nd season.
It's ok. Still way better than the Seeker/SoT. Moiraine Is cast well but it's... a weird part to cast/play if they're doing the whole series. That's all I'll say
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Sounds like Foundation. I watched the first season, decided it was such garbage, now I am going to read the books instead
Lol good luck with that. It's always amusing to see people unfamiliar with the source material try and stick up for it anyway. It's the same story with a few minor tweaks to make it work for television. It's not exactly easy to make a season that covers 1200 years of book
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Funny that no one is actually commenting on buying the book. After watching the lousy messed up show, I found my original books and started reading.👍
I finished the TV series. It felt like a mix between gossip girls and game of thrones. The production was alright, but a lot of aspects were trying too hard. I wanted to stop watching, but sunk cost told me no.
Plain and simple… If you've read the books, the show blows donkeys.
If you haven't read the books… The show is lame and there are millions of things that aren't explained and you really won't understand. Even though the show is way different from the books, having read the books numerous times, you will understand the gist of what's going on.
I listened to the books when driving to and from work. Helps get through the slower stuff (still better than the radio or podcasts), and Michael Kramer and Kate Redding do a phenomenal job narrating… So much chemistry… Oh and they're married in real life, duh.
Wonder how many people watched the TV series and decided to read the book.
Yeah, the TV show was a mixed bag and I can understand why a lot of fans who have read the book(s) were disappointed...but I felt it could have been worse.
But then I watched the 6 short animated episodes (that were hidden or something in the TV show episodes)...and they were so good and true to the books that it actually pushed me more to not like the TV show which deviated quite a bit by the end.
By any chance you know which episodes that the 6 short animated are in? Thanks!
I read the series a few years back and I watched season 1 on Prime, enjoyed both avenues of the story. I think the key is to not set expectations, and then you are not disappointed. I am not aware of many books made into television/movie that were spectacular. I always keep in mind that movies typically state "Based on the writings..." Based means foundation (no pun intended) and has no guarantee that it will be exactly the same as the book.
One call out is that they redid the Eye of the World Audiobook with voice talent provided by Rosamund Pike (Moiraine) and they may very well continue with the following audiobooks. She does a decent job of it. As others have mentioned, the middle books of the series lend themselves to audio format for some, so perhaps a fresh rendition could even be more to some listeners' taste.
Wonder how many people watched the TV series and decided to read the book.
Yeah, the TV show was a mixed bag and I can understand why a lot of fans who have read the book(s) were disappointed...but I felt it could have been worse.
But then I watched the 6 short animated episodes (that were hidden or something in the TV show episodes)...and they were so good and true to the books that it actually pushed me more to not like the TV show which deviated quite a bit by the end.
The way I looked at the TV show was through the lens of a Gleeman's tail. Details tend to get muddy as the wheel turns so what was cannon has a chance to diverge. It helped me get through it and enjoy it for what it was.
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Kind of a weird question, but how does this work as a standalone book? I'm not a big reader and not sure if I have the willpower to get through the entire series. At this price though I'm willing to grab it now for later reading.
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Yeah, the TV show was a mixed bag and I can understand why a lot of fans who have read the book(s) were disappointed...but I felt it could have been worse.
But then I watched the 6 short animated episodes (that were hidden or something in the TV show episodes)...and they were so good and true to the books that it actually pushed me more to not like the TV show which deviated quite a bit by the end.
The biggest one being "pillow friends" and what that means. It's made explicitly clear (or as near as possible) in one of the middle books what that means. Yes, a sexual relationship between two women. I think it was a noblewoman and a Sea Folk woman were caught being pillow friends. The Sea Folk woman said it was because she had been away from her husband for so long...then she gets blackmailed because she doesn't want others to know because she's afraid her husband will leave her if he finds out. So yeah...
Two of the characters were pillow friends when they were younger (as stated in the books). I don't think the books ever said they continued that relationship...but the TV show tweaked/added onto that they did. So IMO, not a "woke issue" but a product of them changing characters/story for "adaptation reasons" really. It served one purpose (showing two character working closely in secret) but has the potential to cause problems down the line.
Warders and Aes Sedai relationships...it's in the book. Sometimes they even marry. Orgy stuff...hmm, not in the book?...but I could see it as something that would happen.
Diversity...so the characters in the books have a ton of diversity. But it's geographically and by countries for the most part, the TV show decided to just make all groups of people diverse (so far). I think it's actually a good "adaptation reason" and the cast diversity was a highlight of the show.
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On a site note DO NOT touch the Amazon show its the pinnacle of not understanding the audience Imagine the last season of game of thrones and then you have the first season of Wheel of time....they literally had a complete book series to draw from and they changed so many things that made no sense.
On a site note DO NOT touch the Amazon show its the pinnacle of not understanding the audience Imagine the last season of game of thrones and then you have the first season of Wheel of time....they literally had a complete book series to draw from and they changed so many things that made no sense.
Now I myself say, like some King works, this series drags a lot in the middle. So much filler
But without it idk if I would have discovered Sanderson who's works are fantastic and not boring
You can be safely ignored
Lol good luck with that. It's always amusing to see people unfamiliar with the source material try and stick up for it anyway. It's the same story with a few minor tweaks to make it work for television. It's not exactly easy to make a season that covers 1200 years of book
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If you haven't read the books… The show is lame and there are millions of things that aren't explained and you really won't understand. Even though the show is way different from the books, having read the books numerous times, you will understand the gist of what's going on.
I listened to the books when driving to and from work. Helps get through the slower stuff (still better than the radio or podcasts), and Michael Kramer and Kate Redding do a phenomenal job narrating… So much chemistry… Oh and they're married in real life, duh.
Yeah, the TV show was a mixed bag and I can understand why a lot of fans who have read the book(s) were disappointed...but I felt it could have been worse.
But then I watched the 6 short animated episodes (that were hidden or something in the TV show episodes)...and they were so good and true to the books that it actually pushed me more to not like the TV show which deviated quite a bit by the end.
Yeah, the TV show was a mixed bag and I can understand why a lot of fans who have read the book(s) were disappointed...but I felt it could have been worse.
But then I watched the 6 short animated episodes (that were hidden or something in the TV show episodes)...and they were so good and true to the books that it actually pushed me more to not like the TV show which deviated quite a bit by the end.
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