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Capital One Spark Cash Plus Business Credit Card - $3000 sign-up bonus on $50k/6 month spend

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You need to spend $50k in 6 months on this card to get the $3,000 bonus. If you can't charge that much, or can't manufacture that spend, move along. This isn't a card for a college kid. This is a brand new offer, and is time limited (no mention of when it expires).

2% cashback on everything, no categories. $150 annual fee. Can't tell if it hits you with the AF on application, but assuming it does, you'll clear $3850 in 6 months with the $50k spend. That's nearly 8% (back of the napkin calc), which is the highest I've ever seen on a card bonus. This is a GOOD deal. I'd probably churn this and drop the card at year 1 unless they waive AF in year 2.

Yes, this is a business card but the prevailing wisdom is that anyone can get one. You sell on eBay? Congrats, you own a business.

https://www.capitalone.com/small-...cash-plus/
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Wasser
02-15-2022 at 10:36 AM.
02-15-2022 at 10:36 AM.
So I am expecting to pay a load of Capital Gains Taxes to The Man next year. Could I use this card to make pre-payments and cash in on the bonus, and prevent penalties from the IRS?

I do sell a book or two on Amz which I guess one could consider a business. Lol. Wave
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abramowicz
02-17-2022 at 04:46 PM.
02-17-2022 at 04:46 PM.
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No to be rude , but all of our information is already out there we think only we know but World Wide Web knows everything and what so funny is that we provide this info ourself using our gadgets , search your name or your phone no online and any one can buy your entire history by paying $10-$30 ( except the social security no, thats out there too you just need to look for it )
Not all of us are as promiscuous with our data/devices, but it is companies like this that make it so that it is probably already stolen, yes. What I do mind, is having to agree to this incompetence on their part, after the fact. Oh yeah, we will give you some credit monitoring, which is free anyway, for signing away all claims of legal responsibility. As far as card issuers/banks go, this is one of the absolute worst. In spite of my better judgement, I stepped in it, and now have to wipe it off my shoe.
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henry333
02-23-2022 at 07:10 AM.
02-23-2022 at 07:10 AM.
Quote from addictedsaver View quoted comment :
Worth mentioning that this is a charge card.

Also if you have a CapOne miles card, you can transfer the cash back to miles and use it with travel partners. That will get you even more value that $4k if you're know what you're doing with loyalty programs.
You can convert miles to cash easily. Do you have a reference for points to miles transfer?
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Knightshade
02-23-2022 at 07:22 AM.
02-23-2022 at 07:22 AM.
Quote from Wasser View quoted comment :
So I am expecting to pay a load of Capital Gains Taxes to The Man next year. Could I use this card to make pre-payments and cash in on the bonus, and prevent penalties from the IRS?

I do sell a book or two on Amz which I guess one could consider a business. Lol. Wave

Yup.

We use the $ owed to the IRS each year to knock out several signup bonuses at once.

Note there's usually a fee to pay taxes with a card, but it's much smaller than the gain from the bonuses....1.87% is the cheapest right now

https://www.irs.gov/payments/pay-...redit-card
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FormallyKnownAs
02-23-2022 at 11:13 AM.
02-23-2022 at 11:13 AM.
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Using a business credit card to pay for $50k in personal expenses will get you blacklisted by Capital One, which will put you on the blacklist for all major banks. Not worth the risk.
Haha, this is clearly a statement from someone without person experience.

With the exception of AMEX, no business card treats your charges any different than if you used a personal card. After all, how would they even know? Hypothetically, if I'm a promoter, I may buy hundreds of gift cards to use as promotional prizes - is a credit card company going to spend time determine what fits my business profile among their thousands of customers? Of course not. As long as the transaction is legit and authorized, they'll process it.

Now with AMEX, the rule is to make 'legit' purchases to meet the bonus requirements. This is true for both personal and business cards. So no gift cards or other suspicious transactions. However, once you've hit your bonus spend - game on.

Of course, I'm never going to say it's impossible to get blacklisted, but based on direct experiences, I haven't seen it happen. Also, if you're curious what really gets blacklisted, there's a thread on flyertalk with detailed data points. And in that thread, which spans YEARS, I've never seen anyone get blacklisted by other banks just because one decided to do it.
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Wasser
02-23-2022 at 04:26 PM.
02-23-2022 at 04:26 PM.
Quote from Knightshade View quoted comment :
Yup.

We use the $ owed to the IRS each year to knock out several signup bonuses at once.

Note there's usually a fee to pay taxes with a card, but it's much smaller than the gain from the bonuses....1.87% is the cheapest right now

https://www.irs.gov/payments/pay-...redit-card
Would you recommend a similar offer that is not as business-y? hug
Would really help swallowing that CGT...EEK!
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Knightshade
02-24-2022 at 10:04 AM.
02-24-2022 at 10:04 AM.
Quote from Wasser View quoted comment :
Would you recommend a similar offer that is not as business-y? hug
Would really help swallowing that CGT...EEK!

Is there a particular reason you're adverse to using business cards? In most cases it's very very very loose as to what "having a business" means, so that's not really an issue.

Added bonus in most cases business cards don't show up on your personal credit report (the hard pull will, but not the card itself, thus not wasting valuable 5/24 slots).

That said, if you're dead set on sticking to personal cards a frequently updated list of the best signup bonuses can be found here:

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/be...n-bonuses/

But in general you'll need to open like 10+ personal cards to eat up the amount of spend this one offer would eat.
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Wasser
02-24-2022 at 04:54 PM.
02-24-2022 at 04:54 PM.
Quote from Knightshade View quoted comment :
Is there a particular reason you're adverse to using business cards? In most cases it's very very very loose as to what "having a business" means, so that's not really an issue.

Added bonus in most cases business cards don't show up on your personal credit report (the hard pull will, but not the card itself, thus not wasting valuable 5/24 slots).

That said, if you're dead set on sticking to personal cards a frequently updated list of the best signup bonuses can be found here:

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/be...n-bonuses/

But in general you'll need to open like 10+ personal cards to eat up the amount of spend this one offer would eat.
Oh no, I am not averse to business cards, but apparently Cap1 decided I didn't make the cut and denied my app. Confused
I am credit worthy (825). Ya know, I put a freeze on my credit because of all the hacking going on, maybe that keeps them from checking and approving. Hmmm.

Thanks a lot for your help!
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Knightshade
02-25-2022 at 06:33 AM.
02-25-2022 at 06:33 AM.
Quote from Wasser View quoted comment :
Oh no, I am not averse to business cards, but apparently Cap1 decided I didn't make the cut and denied my app. Confused
I am credit worthy (825). Ya know, I put a freeze on my credit because of all the hacking going on, maybe that keeps them from checking and approving. Hmmm.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Oh yeah if all your credit reports are frozen you'll be denied from about anybody.

That said, Cap 1 is really picky. I get tons of approvals from citi, chase, amex, us bank, boa, etc.... only cap 1 and barclays have ever turned me down for anything.

If you're ok with biz cards BTW, 2 other "largish" spend options are the Chase Ink Preferred which I think is 100k UR for 15k spend these days.... and the Amex Business plat, which is I think 150k MR for 15k spend

Be sure to read up on the rules for chase/amex approvals (5/24 and once per lifetime respectively being the most relevant)
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Wasser
03-01-2022 at 01:56 PM.
03-01-2022 at 01:56 PM.
Thanks again! worship

Removed my fraud alerts, so we'll see if I can go collect some points.
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dbabo
03-06-2022 at 11:10 AM.
03-06-2022 at 11:10 AM.
had Cap One BC one for 5 years. This Feb the card expired and the replacement was lost in the mail.
They refused to waive the expedited (2-3 bus days) shipment of $15 and stated that they can't overnight the card either.
The cus service was really not giving sh$$ and didn't even pretend that she tries to retain the customer.
I closed the account on the spot.

I noticed that over these years the quality of cus service noticeable went down the hill. I may be called them 5 times over all these years.
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henry333
03-06-2022 at 11:13 AM.
03-06-2022 at 11:13 AM.
The card is specified as no preset spending limit. This is different than no spending limit.

I tried to pay around 30K 1040 tax and got rejected and got a rejected email. There is link in the email to check whether certain charge size will be rejected/accepted. It appear my initial limit is less than 10k (low for business card). I think the website also have the checker.

So if you have an outsized charge, you may want to start early, breakup the charge, and do the (charge, payback) cycles.

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slimatvo
03-06-2022 at 01:14 PM.
03-06-2022 at 01:14 PM.
Is it $4000 and not $3850 with 50k spend? (5000*.02)+3000 cash back
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fbueller
03-06-2022 at 01:24 PM.
03-06-2022 at 01:24 PM.
Quote from slimatvo View quoted comment :
Is it $4000 and not $3850 with 50k spend? (5000*.02)+3000 cash back
Minus $150 annual fee (charged on approval) = 3850
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Wasser
03-07-2022 at 04:16 PM.
03-07-2022 at 04:16 PM.
Quote from henry333 View quoted comment :
The card is specified as no preset spending limit. This is different than no spending limit.

I tried to pay around 30K 1040 tax and got rejected and got a rejected email. There is link in the email to check whether certain charge size will be rejected/accepted. It appear my initial limit is less than 10k (low for business card). I think the website also have the checker.

So if you have an outsized charge, you may want to start early, breakup the charge, and do the (charge, payback) cycles.
Thanks for sharing! That's a good point, may bite one in the back if counting on charging a large sum.
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