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Costco Members: Yamaha TSR-700 7.1-Channel Network A/V Receiver

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$440

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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: Yamaha TSR-700 7.1-Channel Network A/V Receiver on sale for $439.99. Shipping is free.

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Thanks to Community Member c627627 for finding this deal.

Key Features:
  • 7.1 channel (with two mono subwoofer outputs)
  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, AirPlay, Spotify Connect, and Yamaha's MusicCast Multi-Room Capabilities
  • 7 HDMI Inputs & 1 Outputs with HDCP 2.3
  • 4K Ultra HD, HDR10 and Dolby Vision
  • YPAO Reflected Sound Control for Auto-calibrated Sound Tuning

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  • About this product:
    • Rated 4.2 stars out of 5 overall based on 1,000+ reviews on Costco Wholesale
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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: Yamaha TSR-700 7.1-Channel Network A/V Receiver on sale for $439.99. Shipping is free.

Note, must be logged in with your Costco Membership to view pricing.

Thanks to Community Member c627627 for finding this deal.

Key Features:
  • 7.1 channel (with two mono subwoofer outputs)
  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, AirPlay, Spotify Connect, and Yamaha's MusicCast Multi-Room Capabilities
  • 7 HDMI Inputs & 1 Outputs with HDCP 2.3
  • 4K Ultra HD, HDR10 and Dolby Vision
  • YPAO Reflected Sound Control for Auto-calibrated Sound Tuning

Editor's Notes

Written by CChoiVA
  • About this product:
    • Rated 4.2 stars out of 5 overall based on 1,000+ reviews on Costco Wholesale
  • About this store:
    • Costco Wholesale return policy may be found here

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Quadriflax
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I have this model. Never used it the first year I had it, as I was waiting to get an Xbox Series X and to get the 2.1 board replacement. I was able to get it repaired December last year. If you fill in the form on the Yamaha website, someone from United Radio will reach out to you. I received an email in about 48 hours. It asked me to confirm a few things, then they sent me a UPS label to ship it back. I had the original box, so I shipped it in that. If you don't have materials/box, I think they can provide for you.

Shipping was to Salt Lake City, Utah. From Buffalo it took about six days out. The unit was repaired and sent back to me the same day it was delivered. United Radio asked me a few questions before doing the repair, but it was a quick and painless process. It was another six days shipping to get back to me. Everything worked/works great with my XSX. Zero issues on my end with it plugged into my 7.1 system and my Sony X900H. I mean, the sound might take a few seconds to kick in when I start up my XSX from sleep, but that's about the only glitch I've noticed (if it even is one... it's so minor I don't care).

I don't know that there's a way to tell from the serial number if it has been fixed already, but I do know that when you load it up, if you use the display to show the firmware version, if there is a * by it, the repair has been done. United Radio did flash the latest firmware on it before sending back. I had no settings to backup (still fresh from factory), but they would have backed up and restored settings, too, if needed.

It was about as smooth as you could hope, and considering I was about as far away from Utah as you could get during the holiday rush, shipping time was more than reasonable. If you're closer you'll probably get it turned around even quicker, I imagine.

I'm not an audiophile. I replaced an older Yamaha system I had that couldn't do 4K and it works pretty much the same. I don't need to tweak things, it just needs to work, and it does for me. I hear the app is far more useful in setting things up than the on screen menus (which are slow and clunky), but I haven't bothered syncing my unit to my network, because if I ever need to update the firmware, I'll just use a USB.

I also only paid $320 for it in 2020 (which included a 5% non-member fee). I'd do it again for sure, because the price was more than worth it. Are there better units? Probably. But for the price I got it at and for my use case, I think it's worth it. I'd probably find it worth it at $440, too, but again, there may be "better" units at that price now, I don't know.

Last note: if you do need to ship it in for the repair, take everything out (e.g., remote). Make sure to take off the wireless antenna, too. I didn't realize they came off, so they asked me about them and they took them off and shipped it back. I'm not sure why they thought I might not want them back, but.. whatever. They came back and all is well.
canonfodder
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Warning for gamers who want the best: Just a reminder this unit's HDMI 2.1 bandwidth is capped at 24gbps, which is half of HDMI 2.1's full bandwidth.

The PS5 currently tops out at 32gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:2:2
The Xbox Series X tops out at 40gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:4:4

The Yamaha will not be able to handle the top bandwidth of these new consoles, each console will however downsample the chroma to 4:2:0 at 4k/120 HDR, so you will get 4k/120 in HDR with this box. Downsampling chroma is generally unnoticeable, but where it does make a difference is in background detail, where the downsampled video will have more blur and look softer. So if you have a fancy OLED and just bought a new console and want the best picture quality available, this receiver will be a weak link and you'll be getting a (slightly) worse picture than what the new systems are capable of outputting. Example of chroma subsampling from wikipedia: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...orcomp.jpg

To get the best picture you should at least be looking for a 40gbps receiver.
c627627
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That Sony in fact does not have 145W because it is 145W at 6 ohms.

You want to look at wattage at 8 ohms.
It is pathetic 67W at 8 ohms for that Sony STR-DH790.

Beware of manufacturers advertising wattage values at 6 ohms.
Run when you see that - it's a trap!

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Jan 26, 2022
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valleydweller
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Quote from jonny4 :
Yamaha used to have some great listening modes built into their receivers. Do the newer ones still have that?
Yes they still have those modes
Jan 26, 2022
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Quote from yoster_ac :
Can you expand? I've had both for quite some time (since release). I have my own comparison notes between the two but I'm curious first to hear what about it makes you use the 'trash' word.
Would love to see your comparison notes!!! The two things that drive me crazy about the Denon are music from a thumb drive always starts from the 1st song instead of remembering where it left off and I'm really struggling with center channel clarity. Different center channels and Audyssey aren't helping. Unfortunately my Yamaha bit the dust so I slid an older Onkyo into my main system. The Denon is now running my bedroom setup.
Jan 26, 2022
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supertek75
Jan 26, 2022
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Quote from canonfodder :
Warning for gamers who want the best: Just a reminder this unit's HDMI 2.1 bandwidth is capped at 24gbps, which is half of HDMI 2.1's full bandwidth.
  • The PS5 currently tops out at 32gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:2:2
  • The Xbox Series X tops out at 40gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:4:4
The Yamaha will not be able to handle the top bandwidth of these new consoles, each console will however downsample the chroma to 4:2:0 at 4k/120 HDR, so you will get 4k/120 in HDR with this box. Downsampling chroma is generally unnoticeable, but where it does make a difference is in background detail, where the downsampled video will have more blur and look softer. So if you have a fancy OLED and just bought a new console and want the best picture quality available, this receiver will be a weak link and you'll be getting a (slightly) worse picture than what the new systems are capable of outputting. Example of chroma subsampling from wikipedia: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki...orcomp.jpg

To get the best picture you should at least be looking for a 40gbps receiver.
Would one be able to get around the 24gbps limitation by directly connecting the sources to the display and e-arc back to the receiver to route the sound to the speakers?

I get that it may not be feasible for some theater set ups (mine included), but it would be one way around the bandwidth limitation while enjoying the TSR-700's sound processing capabilities.
Jan 26, 2022
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mpkb
Jan 26, 2022
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Quote from myager2 :
Costco is well known for selling "gray market" electronics. I'd assume they're the problematic boards unless explicitly stated.
Costco moves enough Yamaha hardware that they get their own specific model numbers from Yamaha, even though it is the same. That means it was intended for sale in the US with warranty. So not gray.
Last edited by mpkb January 26, 2022 at 09:57 AM.
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yoster_ac
Jan 26, 2022
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Quote from mpkb :
Gray market?? Costco moves enough hardware that they get their own specific model numbers from the manufactures, even though it is the same. That means it was intended for sale in the US with warranty. So not gray.
You know what's interesting, this is the 4th time I've heard this comment (1 time online, here, and 3 times by people in-person) this month. The story I was told was that many costo items (appliances included) are items off the assembly line that failed QA in 1 area, but still sellable as new, but with perhaps a slightly modified warranty, 1 SMALL spec difference, etc.

The examples a costco gave me were pretty compelling. First, the fact that costco electronics and appliances have their own unique model number. Even if it's by only one digit, or an astrice added to the end, etc. This applies to monitors, printers, appliances, etc etc. For instance the Netgear nighthawk router I purchased - similar model # as the main one sold everywhere else, and it can even be flashed with that firmware, BUT, there are 1 or 2 SMALL differences that 99.9% of the users wouldn't notice. Or, maybe it's to track the different warranty? You'll notice that the exact product from Costco vs Bestbuy often carry different manufacture warranties.

On this unit here, it's a VERY large model number change - why call it a TSR-700 when it's a RX-V6A? What's the point?

Why would a manufacturer ONLY give a unique model # to versions sold at Costco? Why would they even care?

Anyway, makes you wonder, and it has been coming up a lot lately. And perhaps I'm bitter given my new dishwasher that Costco has been trying to fix for 9 months LOL

[edit for all the thumbs-downers] - I'm not stating this as fact. I'm just sharing what I've heard (rumors) for the sake of discussion.
Last edited by yoster_ac January 26, 2022 at 01:41 PM.
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mig0
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Have 2 questions.

I get what 5.1 etc means but not 5.1.2 with that 3rd number.

2nd- any recommendations on wireless speakers I could pair with this? Not sure I'm gonna buy this model or a less featured avr but I'm looking at a more modern device but want to be able to connect speakers wirelessly.
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DietrichBonhoeffer
Jan 26, 2022
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Quote from mig0 :
Have 2 questions.

I get what 5.1 etc means but not 5.1.2 with that 3rd number.

2nd- any recommendations on wireless speakers I could pair with this? Not sure I'm gonna buy this model or a less featured avr but I'm looking at a more modern device but want to be able to connect speakers wirelessly.
5.1.2 = typical 5 speakers, + sub, + 2 ceiling firing speakers. you need 9.1 receiver for that

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Quote from yoster_ac :
You know what's interesting, this is the 4th time I've heard this comment (1 time online, here, and 3 times by people in-person) this month. The story I was told was that many costo items (appliances included) are items off the assembly line that failed QA in 1 area, but still sellable as new, but with perhaps a slightly modified warranty, 1 SMALL spec difference, etc.

The examples a costco gave me were pretty compelling. First, the fact that costco electronics and appliances have their own unique model number. Even if it's by only one digit, or an astrice added to the end, etc. This applies to monitors, printers, appliances, etc etc. For instance the Netgear nighthawk router I purchased - similar model # as the main one sold everywhere else, and it can even be flashed with that firmware, BUT, there are 1 or 2 SMALL differences that 99.9% of the users wouldn't notice. Or, maybe it's to track the different warranty? You'll notice that the exact product from Costco vs Bestbuy often carry different manufacture warranties.

On this unit here, it's a VERY large model number change - why call it a TSR-700 when it's a RX-V6A? What's the point?

Why would a manufacturer ONLY give a unique model # to versions sold at Costco? Why would they even care?

Anyway, makes you wonder, and it has been coming up a lot lately. And perhaps I'm bitter given my new dishwasher that Costco has been trying to fix for 9 months LOL
This is called "binning" and it's very common in electronics. Processor and video cards especially.

Why throw away something that works but not quite at 100% of specs? Make a new model and sell it at a discount
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Quote from yoster_ac :
Why would a manufacturer ONLY give a unique model # to versions sold at Costco? Why would they even care?
There are no nefarious goals here. The different model number is for retail price support. In other words, to prevent every other retailer from having to price match Costco.

So this way, everyone can have their cake and eat it too. Want the high touch support from the polo shirt AV retailer? Sure, buy the 6A. Want rock bottom price instead? Get the 700 from Costco.
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Quote from yoster_ac :
Can you expand? I've had both for quite some time (since release). I have my own comparison notes between the two but I'm curious first to hear what about it makes you use the 'trash' word.
I had the tsr-700 for about two weeks and nothing but issues, It would take forever to switch over from my htpc to my shield on my projector. There were times when i power up my devices and and I would not get a display on my projector. Denon finally went on sale and pick that up and zero issues with the Denon so far with all my devices.
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I really wish at least one of these manufacturers would develop a mature and robust mobile app. It's shocking how poorly designed and limited the app support is for all these 'modern' receivers. If anyone can recommend a receiver with a great mobile/tablet experience I will put it on my shopping list immediately.
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mpkb
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Quote from BlueDancer :
bought this a years ago to replace my Onkyo Tx-NR828. The sound on the Yamaha is more crisp and clear than the Onkyo but I had to return it due to the HDMI freezing issue. Now they fixed the faulty HDMI but is $100 more...decision, decision decision...
I also like Yamaha's sound Smilie
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TheAugust
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Damn, that Onkyo has 2 HDMI outs, but I guess it's not in stock? I would have gobbled that up on the stop, signing up for Costco just to get it specifically.

Where can I find details about 2022's lineup of receivers for all the major brands?
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dandruiz
Jan 26, 2022
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Quote from yoster_ac :
You know what's interesting, this is the 4th time I've heard this comment (1 time online, here, and 3 times by people in-person) this month. The story I was told was that many costo items (appliances included) are items off the assembly line that failed QA in 1 area, but still sellable as new, but with perhaps a slightly modified warranty, 1 SMALL spec difference, etc.

The examples a costco gave me were pretty compelling. First, the fact that costco electronics and appliances have their own unique model number. Even if it's by only one digit, or an astrice added to the end, etc. This applies to monitors, printers, appliances, etc etc. For instance the Netgear nighthawk router I purchased - similar model # as the main one sold everywhere else, and it can even be flashed with that firmware, BUT, there are 1 or 2 SMALL differences that 99.9% of the users wouldn't notice. Or, maybe it's to track the different warranty? You'll notice that the exact product from Costco vs Bestbuy often carry different manufacture warranties.

On this unit here, it's a VERY large model number change - why call it a TSR-700 when it's a RX-V6A? What's the point?

Why would a manufacturer ONLY give a unique model # to versions sold at Costco? Why would they even care?

Anyway, makes you wonder, and it has been coming up a lot lately. And perhaps I'm bitter given my new dishwasher that Costco has been trying to fix for 9 months LOL
Never heard such a thing - I used to be a sales rep for HP, and the only difference in the printers sold at BBY vs Costco was the Costco ones usually came with an extra perk (extra cartridge, a higher capacity cartridge, or a few months free of Instant Ink whereas you had to buy that separately), or a minor difference (two paper cassettes instead of one) - everything else about the units was identical. The only difference in the naming scheme, apart from this, is it makes it easier to track which units sell through which channels; different stores (say, Circuit City vs CompUSA to use two defunct retailers) sometimes have different model numbers on identical units. The stores love it also because then you can't price match. That's all.

Also, the model name of the Yamaha isn't a new thing - Yamaha's traditional home theater receivers started with the "TSR" prefix, while their higher-level units start with the RX-V prefix. Yamaha did this before 6 years ago with the TSR-7790 and RX-V779 - identical units, but the Costco one was $490 while the "RX-V" was $850.00. People on AVSForum dissected both units, and there was 0 difference apart from the model number printed on the panels. Just another way to track units through different channels, since the TSR-7790 wasn't sold anywhere else.

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Quote from supertek75 :
Would one be able to get around the 24gbps limitation by directly connecting the sources to the display and e-arc back to the receiver to route the sound to the speakers?

I get that it may not be feasible for some theater set ups (mine included), but it would be one way around the bandwidth limitation while enjoying the TSR-700's sound processing capabilities.
of course you could. the Yamaha is a good Audio receiver, just not a great Video receiver. but you may have some issues running the eArc. i had the the old version of the TSR 700 that has a lot of compatibility issue with LG CX TV.

additionally, eARC may not be acceptable for someone people if you play video games. the latency is quite noticeable.

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