Costco Members: EcoFlow River Pro Portable Power Station

slayerfaith1982

Feb 2, 2022 2:19 AM

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slayerfaith1982Feb 2, 2022 2:19 AM

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Would the River Pro be enough to power 2 laptops (ac plug-ins not usb C) for like an 8 hour workday from home if power is lost? Not huge gaming rigs but like 2 Dell Latitude type ones. Both working from home and can use phone hotspot for internet, but just need to make sure laptops can last the workday

PowerfulCorn440

Feb 2, 2022 2:20 AM

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PowerfulCorn440Feb 2, 2022 2:20 AM

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Quote from Blueridge77

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This comments section is going to blow up! Lol! No doubt a quality product, but it's just a battery bank. It's a lot of cheese ($2,850) to power your refrigerator for 24 hours… Very niche item and for people with more dollars than "cents/sense"…

Seriously you could buy the top end 9500w harbor freight inverter generator and run your whole house including an electric dryer.

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whiterabbit76

Feb 2, 2022 3:20 AM

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whiterabbit76Feb 2, 2022 3:20 AM

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Quote from slayerfaith1982

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Would the River Pro be enough to power 2 laptops (ac plug-ins not usb C) for like an 8 hour workday from home if power is lost? Not huge gaming rigs but like 2 Dell Latitude type ones. Both working from home and can use phone hotspot for internet, but just need to make sure laptops can last the workday

If its a 130watt power brick per laptop total 260watt. The river pro is 720Wh

Approximate is 2.5hrs

If you need 8hr...you will need the extra battery plus the solar panel

What ever the dell power supply you got...take that number multiple by 2 and 720 divide by that number is the approximate hrs. As mention by nyc10036 using 65watts.
Dell makes 45watt, 65watt, 90watt, 130 watt and so on...

Last edited by whiterabbit76 February 1, 2022 at 07:53 PM.

Stach

Feb 2, 2022 3:36 AM

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StachFeb 2, 2022 3:36 AM

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Quote from methodz

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Don't know if anyone cares but I got the Delta mini plus the 110 watt solar panel for $669 from Wellbots refurbished. BUT I don't see any evidence of refurbishment on my unit or the panel. Both packaging looked like the retail packaging. I'd pick the mini over the river even though it is a bit more. The Delta Mini alone "refurbished" from Wellbots was $619 but there's a $20 coupon floating around. Mini for $599 is slick IMO.

The solar panel is trash! Soooo difficult to set up. I'm guessing all of the Ecoflow panels are just as annoying. I had a Jackery Chinese clone panel that I got an $8 mc4 adapter for that works soooo much easier. Going to sell the Ecoflow panel. I'd suggest not getting that combo.

I purchased the exact same combo deal as you and I agree, both came in indistinguishable from new condition! I don't have any other solar panels to compare to, but I'm more than happy with the Ecoflow 110 watt panel as I live in Wisconsin and set it up in the weak winter sun (totally clear sky though) earlier this week and pulled 106 watts from it, which amazed me, considering people say to expect 70-80% rated power for solar panels in general. That was a fantastic combo deal that keeps coming back now and then.

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nyc10036

Feb 2, 2022 3:37 AM

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nyc10036Feb 2, 2022 3:37 AM

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Quote from slayerfaith1982

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Would the River Pro be enough to power 2 laptops (ac plug-ins not usb C) for like an 8 hour workday from home if power is lost? Not huge gaming rigs but like 2 Dell Latitude type ones. Both working from home and can use phone hotspot for internet, but just need to make sure laptops can last the workday

Most laptop AC adapters are rated 65W. Look on the ones you have.
720Wh ÷ 130W = 5.5 hours
The thing though is that the 65W is to both charge the battery and run the laptop.
Right now, I am looking at a laptop with a fully charged battery.
It is drawing less than 30W measured with a power meter.
If you want to be absolutely certain, I would buy a one River Pro for each laptop.

Stach

Feb 2, 2022 3:53 AM

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StachFeb 2, 2022 3:53 AM

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Quote from whiterabbit76

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If its a 130watt power brick per laptop total 260watt. The river pro is 720Wh

Approximate is 2.5hrs

If you need 8hr...you will need the extra battery plus the solar panel

I'm not sure that your calculations are correct. My 14" Macbook Pro has a 70 Wh battery that will last 8 hours easy. So double that for 2 laptops and they'll only use 140 Wh out of my Delta Mini's 882 Wh battery (still need to account for AC inefficiencies though).

make_moneys

Feb 2, 2022 4:05 AM

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make_moneysFeb 2, 2022 4:05 AM

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Quote from MostCleverName

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The thought of an electric generator is very appealing. too bad the tech isn't there yet.

Thanks!

u mean a generator with an electric start? they make those
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../309391701

Otherwise using electricity to provide electricity doesnt quite make sense laugh out loud

unless you're thinking about an inverter which they also make Smilie

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../308460871

not shilling for ryobi but thats the brand im more familiar with. im sure other alternatives exist

nyc10036

Feb 2, 2022 4:11 AM

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nyc10036Feb 2, 2022 4:11 AM

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Quote from MostCleverName

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So, judging from the majority of responses to my comments, it's safe to conclude this somewhat of a large glorified mobile battery pack for smaller appliances. The thought of an electric generator is very appealing. too bad the tech isn't there yet.

Thanks!

I am not sure where you getting that impression.

The Delta Pro has capacity of 3600Wh and a 3600W (7200W surge) AC output.

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budster

Feb 2, 2022 4:13 AM

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Quote from methodz

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The solar panel is trash! Soooo difficult to set up. I'm guessing all of the Ecoflow panels are just as annoying. I had a Jackery Chinese clone panel that I got an $8 mc4 adapter for that works soooo much easier. Going to sell the Ecoflow panel. I'd suggest not getting that combo.

Can you elaborate more on what's difficult to setup with the ecoflow solar panel? Is it the kickstand, cable connections or some other issue?

nyc10036

Feb 2, 2022 4:14 AM

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Quote from budster

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Can you elaborate more on what's difficult to setup with the ecoflow solar panel? Is it the kickstand, cable connections or some other issue?

kickstand

trkndude299

Feb 2, 2022 4:50 AM

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Quote from dartmouth01

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Yes and no. Starting batteries are generally not built to deep cycle, so you're accelerating the wear on starting lead acid batts by draining down and recharging. The general rule is to not drain wet cell batteries to less than 80% of their capacity. Deep cycle lead acid batteries are more resistant to deep drain (say around 50%) but don't offer the cranking amps due to the make up of the battery (larger lead plates in a deep cycle vs more lead plates in a starting battery). AGm batteries are great because they offer BOTH starter cranking amps and resistance to deep discharge (to around 50% capacity, below that and you reduce the lifetime cycles you will get out of the battery), and AGMs are safe to charge inside since they don't outgas explosive gasses when charging, unlike wet cell batteries. AGMs are more expensive than equivalent wet lead acid batteries though. Lithiums basically let you use ALL the capacity without harm to the battery, and are much lighter (moving a 50 lb Group 29 deep cycle battery is a PITA). But they'll be much more expensive as you have well noticed.

I built my own battery bank with a costco AGM, inside a battery box and with 12v and USB outlets (I can connect an inverter to the terminals I put on top), and in the end it cost me almost as much as an equivalent lithium solar generator (watt for watt) would be. However, I can charge it much faster from my alternator (it serves as a 2nd battery for my jeep, and is tied to the alternator with some 4 gauge cable and quick connects), and it will let me do 24V welding when connected in series to my starting battery. I can't find a solar generator that will let me pull 160A of power thru a 12V connection, which is why I haven't gone with one yet. I'm planning on building a lithium battery bank wired in 36V once costs come down some more, with the ability to also output 12V by either flipping a switch or with a DC to DC downconverter, so I can basically build my own solar generator that also lets me trail weld at 36V.

I like the can do attitude of trail riders.
Great info you gave for those who didn't know.

AGM's have a few more issues that wet cell batteries don't have, but ya'll can use your own needs to guide your research.
Any way, when I set up my system I went with a 2 battery bank setup. 3 for starting my diesel engine when it's colder than you know what, and a marine bank for deep cycle draws. (Of course, you have to have all the switches and cabling and fusing in place. Fire is a real concern with multiple battery banks.)
Primary reason for my setup was cost and warranty issues. In my area, AGM's cost twice as much as group 31 batteries, and they have a high failure rate. And getting warranty issues settled is near impossible.

Your comment about lithium batteries and solar generators is going to have me spending a lot of time researching this on utube, lol.

Rudibager

Feb 2, 2022 5:03 AM

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Quote from owl

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It will depend on your desired usage. The Delta Pro has more features, for example the ability to charge at a L2 EV charging station (many free ones around) with the optional adapter or the 220v outlet that can provide 15A or 30A. Otherwise, I personally didn't look too much into the Delta Max.

I think the Delta Pro is also LiPo instead of Lithium Ion, so you get way way more cycles out of the Delta Pro than the Max + extra battery (in theory).

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KSilver2000

Feb 2, 2022 5:33 AM

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Quote from owl

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This deal is back for Costco members. Originally posted from previous Slickdeals posting by Jwayne25:
https://slickdeals.net/f/15468187-costco-members-ecoflow-back-in-stock-river-pro-430-delta-powerstation-949-delta-pro-powerstation-2849

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I have been specifically looking for something that functions like a Tesla Powerwall, especially for times in locations with the risk of frequent power outages, but without the large startup cost. Clean energy is my preference, as opposed to a gas-powered generator. Probably not the best solution out there for "living off of the grid," but technology is getting us to a better point of making this more of a reality. Will require a power transfer switch next to the main circuit breaker panel. (I don't currently have solar installed and am less interested with the potential increases in solar infrastructure bill proposals in California.)

Perhaps as a helpful comparison, I have been considering the Tesla Powerwall. The current version is spec'ed to have 13.5kWh accessible at around $10,500, before installation, permitting, and other accessory parts. Plus, Tesla no longer sells this without bundling with Tesla solar. There are other brands that sell battery backups for the home these days, but I trust Tesla for the battery cells at the moment.

With the Tesla pricing, that's about $778/kWh (without taxes, installation, circuitry, etc), and the Powerwall is not portable, if that matters to some of us.
With the EcoFlow pricing, it's $791/kWh (without taxes and still need something like a power transfer switch installed) at the Costco price or $1,000/kWh (at the EcoFlow retail price of $3,600) and $750/kWh for the extension batteries (at the EcoFlow retail price of $2,699).

I consider the EcoFlow Delta Pro model as a DIY (as someone else has put it) starter version of a home battery backup system, with some other benefits, such as having clean energy for camping and other peripheral uses. To have it fully able to be a home backup system for a decent amount of time (12-24 hours), I will probably need 4 of these linked in series, which might be the max at this point in time. With ~14kWh, that should be more than enough for my essential needs, if I turn off non-essentials. (I'm using around 6-8kWh for essentials per day and about 12-14kWh for a typical day that includes non-essentials, too. This is in San Francisco, so no A/C.)

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As an added benefit, the Delta Pro unit has been tested to be able to charge an EV car at a near Level 2 charging rate (Tesla charging at ~30A in the case of the YouTube video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7cANoCER0) as a portable car charger in an emergency. Real-world usage is probably only good for 10-12 miles for a 3.6kWh rated battery unit. These types of units (with one or two extra power stations) might be good for tow trucks on AAA-related calls with EVs running out of power that don't already have the EV charging capability built into the tow truck.

Check the video (~10:25) for a demo on using 2 EcoFlow Delta Pro units in series to power a small warehouse/facility.

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Costco Wholesale has for its Members:
select EcoFlow Portable Power Stations for the prices listed.
Shipping is free.
Prices valid until 2/27/2022

Available:
EcoFlow Delta Pro Power Station $2,849.99
https://www.costco.com/ecoflow-de...05522.html

EcoFlow River Pro Portable Power Station $429.99
https://www.costco.com/ecoflow-ri...16905.html

EcoFlow Delta Power Station $949.99
https://www.costco.com/ecoflow-de...16860.html

EcoFlow Delta Mini $699.99
https://www.costco.com/ecoflow-de...32158.html

EcoFlow Delta Max Power Station + Extra Battery Bundle $2899.99
https://www.costco.com/ecoflow-de...05483.html

EcoFlow 160W Solar Kit $299.99
https://www.costco.com/ecoflow-16...16854.html

Features (River Pro):
Three 600W Outlets and 720Wh Capacity
Recharge from 0% to 80% in One Hour
Compatible with 80% of Home Appliances
Control with Ecoflow App

https://www.costco.com/CatalogSea...rd=ecoflow

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Next best price I can find for the EcoFlow Delta Pro is at HSN.com for $3,300, and most other stores sell for the list price of $3,600.

But, you miss out on the tax credit that you can get (if eligible and meet the criteria) with the Powerwalls. So, the Tesla PW will come out cheaper if you don't care about portability.

KSilver2000

Feb 2, 2022 5:42 AM

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Quote from dthlin

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The roundtrip cost per kWh is far too expensive for this to financially work out in your favor.

That depends on what the rates are. Rate arbitrage will work in one's favor.

ie. My utility's TOU plan is $0.11/kWh overnight and $0.56/kWh during peak day 2-9pm.
Even with just 10kWH total battery capacity, that's $4.50/day savings, or $1,642/year saved (assuming one uses all that electricity during peak hours).

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1CheapSOB

Feb 2, 2022 6:24 AM

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1CheapSOBFeb 2, 2022 6:24 AM

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Quote from IndiaPaleAle

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What you're after is called 'power wall', the tech is def there so long as your pocket book is, Ford will be one of the first to allow battery back up for home with Ford Lightning, my primary reason for pre-order.

Enjoy that dealer markup.....

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