Zucker's Bagels and Smoked Fish via GoldBelly has
28-Count Zucker's New York Bagels on sale for
$34 when you apply coupon code
3ELLY25 at checkout.
Shipping is free.
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Deal Instructions:
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Go to Zucker's Bagels and Smoked Fish via GoldBelly
- Make sure you are not logged into your GoldBelly account
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Select up to 4 bagel options (you will receive 7 of each selected option):
- Plain
- Everything
- Whole Wheat Everything
- Poppy
- Sesame
- Whole Wheat Plain
- Cinnamon Raisin
- Pumpernickel
- Salt
- Garlic
- Onion
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Click 'Add to Cart'
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When your cart pops up, apply coupon code 3ELLY25
- Your total will be $34, shipping is free
- Select your delivery date and proceed to checkout
- Check out as a Guest
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Do you wish we went back to the era where only the NYT Food Critic was allowed to review restaurants? Yelp and other forums (like SlickDeals!) put power in the people's hands to get their experience distributed, which until the last decade for regular people was basically limited to word-of-mouth and letters to the editor. I'll take more info over less.
I'll give you an example. Let's say there are 10 bad review, a bad thing happened 10 times at a restaurant in NYC, 10 people left bad reviews, 990 people had a great time, left 5 stars, but extremely short/uninformative reviews. Yelp sort (an opaque algorithm) prioritizes what they think are informative reviews, or even Amazon's voting mechanism, biases the reviews you see to be the ones people perceive as 'helpful' (it's also biased by humor and other irrelevant nonsense), these are not an accurate or fair view into the standard experience you or I will have at this business or with that product at all, not in the least. In this contrived example you're only 0.1% likely to have a bad experience, but the "top reviews" will make you think the likelihood is 90%. Now, I'm not saying that exact situation is what's happening here, since the restaurant doesn't have an average of 5 stars, but I am saying what you see on yelp, especially because they make their money by getting restaurant to pay them for a premium subscription to manually order the very reviews you're basing your opinion on!!!!! YES "yelp sort" allows restaurant-clients to order their reviews, they have zero incentive to give you a fair sampling of the data, none whatsoever. You're not getting an accurate view into experiences when you let Yelp/Amazon do the sorting for you.
Is it logical to assume I only want expert reviewers based on my distaste for engineered sampling bias? No. I'll tell you what I prefer. Sorting by most recent. Sorting by most recent is the absolute best way to give you a fair sampling and a good idea of the experience you might have with a product or at a restaurant for the following reasons:
- Reviews are more recent and therefor more likely to be representative of the experience you'll have in case of a changed recipe, manufacturing method, management etc
- Reviews are not biased by people's perception of helpfulness, which by the way is terrible. Folks will upvote reviews warning them of stuff without being able to confirm or deny that warning is real (e.g. the most helpful review on the alexa thermostat has false information). They're certainly not biased by humor, length, or any other meaningless thing random dummies prioritize because they've never taken a stats course in their lifetime.
- Reviews are more randomly sampled across experiences-- THIS IS GOOD. Even if they only write "good" in their review, that's as meaningful a datapoint as someone who writes 10000 words about how good a time they had, at least when trying to predict the experience you will have.
- Paid reviews (more an Amazon problem than Yelp) are front-loaded onto a product's page. If you sort by most recent you're less likely to come across fake reviews.
When I sort by most recent you know what I see? Perfectly fine reviews and some people complaining about a 2:30pm closing time and long lines. I know these reviews aren't biased by Yelp's abusive and exploitative algorithms and business practices. You can read about them all over but I'll link you to one source:https://www.minclaw.com/extortion...e-content/
I'm not saying internet reviews are inherently bad, no. I'm saying they're deeply flawed and basically no entity is incentivized to fix them. Yelp is actually incentivized to make them work for everyone that pays up, and nobody else, and they act accordingly. They send your favorite restaurants letters in the mail that say "see these bad reviews on your yelp page? if you paid us you could move them down the list".
Hell while I was googling for sources I found they were even making a movie about Yelp's shady business practices lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2dkJct
Yelp reviews are flawed, Amazon reviews are flawed, and it's both the businesses' fault and user's fault for not understanding basic data analytics. Top reviews are essentially meaningless. Always go by most recent and be extremely skeptical of both the review writers and both whatever method was determined that you should be reading that specific review.
I'll give you an example. Let's say there are 10 bad review, a bad thing happened 10 times at a restaurant in NYC, 10 people left bad reviews, 990 people had a great time, left 5 stars, but extremely short/uninformative reviews. Yelp sort (an opaque algorithm) prioritizes what they think are informative reviews, or even Amazon's voting mechanism, biases the reviews you see to be the ones people perceive as 'helpful' (it's also biased by humor and other irrelevant nonsense), these are not an accurate or fair view into the standard experience you or I will have at this business or with that product at all, not in the least. In this contrived example you're only 0.1% likely to have a bad experience, but the "top reviews" will make you think the likelihood is 90%. Now, I'm not saying that exact situation is what's happening here, since the restaurant doesn't have an average of 5 stars, but I am saying what you see on yelp, especially because they make their money by getting restaurant to pay them for a premium subscription to manually order the very reviews you're basing your opinion on!!!!! YES "yelp sort" allows restaurant-clients to order their reviews, they have zero incentive to give you a fair sampling of the data, none whatsoever. You're not getting an accurate view into experiences when you let Yelp/Amazon do the sorting for you.
Is it logical to assume I only want expert reviewers based on my distaste for engineered sampling bias? No. I'll tell you what I prefer. Sorting by most recent. Sorting by most recent is the absolute best way to give you a fair sampling and a good idea of the experience you might have with a product or at a restaurant for the following reasons:
- Reviews are more recent and therefor more likely to be representative of the experience you'll have in case of a changed recipe, manufacturing method, management etc
- Reviews are not biased by people's perception of helpfulness, which by the way is terrible. Folks will upvote reviews warning them of stuff without being able to confirm or deny that warning is real (e.g. the most helpful review on the alexa thermostat has false information). They're certainly not biased by humor, length, or any other meaningless thing random dummies prioritize because they've never taken a stats course in their lifetime.
- Reviews are more randomly sampled across experiences-- THIS IS GOOD. Even if they only write "good" in their review, that's as meaningful a datapoint as someone who writes 10000 words about how good a time they had, at least when trying to predict the experience you will have.
- Paid reviews (more an Amazon problem than Yelp) are front-loaded onto a product's page. If you sort by most recent you're less likely to come across fake reviews.
When I sort by most recent you know what I see? Perfectly fine reviews and some people complaining about a 2:30pm closing time and long lines. I know these reviews aren't biased by Yelp's abusive and exploitative algorithms and business practices. You can read about them all over but I'll link you to one source:https://www.minclaw.com/extortion...e-content/ [minclaw.com]
I'm not saying internet reviews are inherently bad, no. I'm saying they're deeply flawed and basically no entity is incentivized to fix them. Yelp is actually incentivized to make them work for everyone that pays up, and nobody else, and they act accordingly. They send your favorite restaurants letters in the mail that say "see these bad reviews on your yelp page? if you paid us you could move them down the list".
Hell while I was googling for sources I found they were even making a movie about Yelp's shady business practices lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2dkJct
Yelp reviews are flawed, Amazon reviews are flawed, and it's both the businesses' fault and user's fault for not understanding basic data analytics. Top reviews are essentially meaningless. Always go by most recent and be extremely skeptical of both the review writers and both whatever method was determined that you should be reading that specific review.
The fact that Yelp lets users sort this way (and has other filters available too, such as by rating), contradicts your theory that it is inherently biased/flawed.
Anyway, again, I'll take a flawed review system that puts power in the hands of the people than the elitist review system of yore, which was inherently much more flawed and much more limited.
The fact that Yelp lets users sort this way (and has other filters available too, such as by rating), contradicts your theory that it is inherently biased/flawed.
Anyway, again, I'll take a flawed review system that puts power in the hands of the people than the elitist review system of yore, which was inherently much more flawed and much more limited.
Anyway they can have the (limited) tools they offer, that doesn't mean Yelp Sort isn't biased and that they aren't aware people are simply using that some large majority of the time. Which it was clear you were using in your original comment since none of the recent reviews mention what you mentioned. This is why I very reasonably assumed you hadn't sorted by most recent. I would actually not call that presumptuous, as you have.
It also doesn't really seem like you're acknowledging my other point that once sorted by most recent all the bad reviews were about how the business was run (long waits etc) and not the bagels, and thus not relevant when buying online
I also see that a mere 3 minutes into posting that comment, you have one upvote and I have one downvote which leads me to believe you've upvoted your own comment lol. But that's just a theory....
Anyway, have a nice day.
From bagels to Wonder Bread. An amazing evolution.
Anyway they can have the (limited) tools they offer, that doesn't mean Yelp Sort isn't biased and that they aren't aware people are simply using that some large majority of the time. Which it was clear you were using in your original comment since none of the recent reviews mention what you mentioned. This is why I very reasonably assumed you hadn't sorted by most recent. I would actually not call that presumptuous, as you have.
It also doesn't really seem like you're acknowledging my other point that once sorted by most recent all the bad reviews were about how the business was run (long waits etc) and not the bagels which aren't relevant when buying online
I also see that a mere 3 minutes into posting that comment, you have one upvote and I have one downvote which leads me to believe you've upvoted your own comment lol. But that's just a theory....
Anyway, have a nice day.
It's self-evident that almost 100% of slickdealers do not need a lecture on how yelp works.
And if you're so concerned about up-votes & down votes, may I recommend contributing to the community by posting more deals than the 5 you've posted since 2015? It feels good to give back!
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It's self-evident that almost 100% of slickdealers do not need a lecture on how yelp works.
And if you're so concerned about up-votes & down votes, may I recommend contributing to the community by posting more deals than the 5 you've posted since 2015? It feels good to give back!
Anyway, if we are talking about comparing intellectual ability of New Yorkers versus Texans, per capita GDP speaks for itself, which can be considered as some degree of proxy for being right / knowing what you are talking about / putting money where your mouth is. NY per capita GDP is 43% higher than Texas' (91k vs 63k respectively) and has grown 16% in the past 5 years (6% higher than national avg growth) while Texas' has stayed flat for the past five years (9% LOWER than national avg growth). LOL.
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I am born and raised in New York and have my opinion on bagels. There are far from the best in NYC-metro area. But they are far better than the best bagels in most other places in the country. I'm currently shipping these to a friend in Seattle area, where there are no good bagel choices.
I am still glad I got some authentic New York Bagels but super happy Seattle Bagel Bakery is pretty gosh darn close to them.
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