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Baratza Coffee Grinders: Sette 30 $209, Virtuoso+ $189, or Encore (Refurbished)

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Baratza has Select Baratza Coffee Grinders (Refurbished) on sale for the prices listed below. Shipping cost varies depending on location.

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  • About this product:
    • All Baratza refurbs come with a 1-year warranty.
    • See the forum thread for additional deal discussion. -BostonGirl
  • About this deal:
    • This deal price for the Encore model is $50.95 lower (29.97% savings) than the retail price of $169.95 when purchased new.
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Baratza has Select Baratza Coffee Grinders (Refurbished) on sale for the prices listed below. Shipping cost varies depending on location.

Thanks to community member nman142 for sharing this deal.

Available Options:

Editor's Notes

Written by BostonGirl
  • About this product:
    • All Baratza refurbs come with a 1-year warranty.
    • See the forum thread for additional deal discussion. -BostonGirl
  • About this deal:
    • This deal price for the Encore model is $50.95 lower (29.97% savings) than the retail price of $169.95 when purchased new.
  • About this store:
    • See Baratza return policy here.

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bowlofclouds
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Our first Encore's motor died after a couple of years of use. We called Baratza and they sent us TWO new motors. It was a fairly easy DIY fix-it, and haven't had any problems since. But we have another backup motor, just in case.

Top notch customer service, in my experience.
moshter11
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If anyone is considering buying Virtuoso to pair with their espresso machine, do not expect great results. I regret not getting something with micro-adjustments. While you can modify Virtuoso/Encore to be step-less, it just looks like a pain and potentially waste a lot of coffee beans trying to get it properly adjusted.
cuoreesitante
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I mean, you ended up paying for a $700 model, pretty much expected to be miles better than a $300 one.

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Feb 28, 2022 07:03 PM
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ayaoFeb 28, 2022 07:03 PM
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I have been waiting for a Virtuoso+ and this is the first time in a quite some time that they have appeared.

Shipping (~$13 UPS Ground) + tax are charged in my location.
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Feb 28, 2022 07:06 PM
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JoseMontielUFeb 28, 2022 07:06 PM
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Baratza [baratza.com] has Baratza Encore Coffee Grinder (Refurbished) for on sale for $119.99.

Baratza [baratza.com] has Baratza Encore White Coffee Grinder (Refurbished) for on sale for $119.99.
Last edited by Turtile February 28, 2022 at 11:06 AM.
Feb 28, 2022 07:57 PM
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mig0Feb 28, 2022 07:57 PM
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Picked up a virtuoso +. Gonna relegate the encore to decaf and any lesser quality beans I find myself buying.
Feb 28, 2022 08:04 PM
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moshter11Feb 28, 2022 08:04 PM
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If anyone is considering buying Virtuoso to pair with their espresso machine, do not expect great results. I regret not getting something with micro-adjustments. While you can modify Virtuoso/Encore to be step-less, it just looks like a pain and potentially waste a lot of coffee beans trying to get it properly adjusted.
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Feb 28, 2022 08:13 PM
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Feb 28, 2022 08:13 PM
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Quote from moshter11 :
If anyone is considering buying Virtuoso to pair with their espresso machine, do not expect great results. I regret not getting something with micro-adjustments. While you can modify Virtuoso/Encore to be step-less, it just looks like a pain and potentially waste a lot of coffee beans trying to get it properly adjusted.
I'm liking the 1zpresso JX Pro for micro adjustments.
Feb 28, 2022 09:42 PM
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Mr_TeaFeb 28, 2022 09:42 PM
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I had been on the lookout for another refurb deal. Picked up the sette 30 and looking forward to trying it out. Thanks!
Feb 28, 2022 10:07 PM
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BetterToAskFeb 28, 2022 10:07 PM
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Does the Virtuoso+ have the upgraded burrs they offer?

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InfamousDXFeb 28, 2022 10:13 PM
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Quote from moshter11 :
If anyone is considering buying Virtuoso to pair with their espresso machine, do not expect great results. I regret not getting something with micro-adjustments. While you can modify Virtuoso/Encore to be step-less, it just looks like a pain and potentially waste a lot of coffee beans trying to get it properly adjusted.
Even if you go with the one with micro adjustments (plus? I had a Preciso), it will still be underwhelming results. I thought I pulled some pretty good shots with my Preciso until I borrowed a friend's Breville smart grinder. It was levels better than the Preciso and the smart grinder isn't even that good!

A few years back, I upgraded to Niche Zero and never looked back!
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Feb 28, 2022 10:15 PM
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derderFeb 28, 2022 10:15 PM
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I've had an Encore and a Virtuoso die on me in the past 6 years with a motor failure. Will not buy again.

I ordered an Euroka Filtro and hope it lasts more than 3 years.
Feb 28, 2022 10:21 PM
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bowlofcloudsFeb 28, 2022 10:21 PM
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Quote from derder :
I've had an Encore and a Virtuoso die on me in the past 6 years with a motor failure. Will not buy again.

I ordered an Euroka Filtro and hope it lasts more than 3 years.
Our first Encore's motor died after a couple of years of use. We called Baratza and they sent us TWO new motors. It was a fairly easy DIY fix-it, and haven't had any problems since. But we have another backup motor, just in case.

Top notch customer service, in my experience.
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Feb 28, 2022 10:25 PM
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cuoreesitanteFeb 28, 2022 10:25 PM
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Quote from InfamousDX :
Even if you go with the one with micro adjustments (plus? I had a Preciso), it will still be underwhelming results. I thought I pulled some pretty good shots with my Preciso until I borrowed a friend's Breville smart grinder. It was levels better than the Preciso and the smart grinder isn't even that good!

A few years back, I upgraded to Niche Zero and never looked back!
I mean, you ended up paying for a $700 model, pretty much expected to be miles better than a $300 one.
Feb 28, 2022 10:30 PM
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jeffricks2051Feb 28, 2022 10:30 PM
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My understanding is the Encore is best for regular coffee, but not espresso. The sette 30 is best for espresso but not regular coffee (as much). And the Virtuoso+ does the whole range, but doesn't do as good espresso grind as the sette 30. Not sure if the Viruoso+ comes with a burr upgrade, and not sure how much it improves what.

Encores are known to last forever and be servicable if ever needed. Sette 30 has plastic gears and some people say it breaks easy. I believe it is vulerable to people experimenting with too fine of settings which break it fast, and also very dark coffees which stress it much. Stay with Medium-light-dark roasts, and start grind size too big and go down, opposed to starting grind size too small (stresses machine) and go up. Stay away from stressing the machine unnecesarily and I 'believe' it will go a long time.

I have the sette 30 refurb from a SD deal a few months ago, which lasted about 30 min. So if you want one of these I'm guessing you also have to hurry. I'm very happy with my sette 30 purchase. It has ad an admirable grind for such a cheap price point.

The Sette 30 has a 'stepped' grind deal. meaning it clicks in intervals. Stepless is perfered for unlimited grind tweaking. But more important is to have a grinder that grinds well. The sette 30 can be upgraded to the grind selector of the model above which essentially is stepless. But that costs extra money.

The stepped sette 30 is fine. If you want nuance you can adjust the gram amount and tamp pressure to 'dial in' closer.

Watch youtube videos on how to 'dial in' espresso if you want any hope of getting a good espresso. God knows most coffee shop 'baristas' know how to make a good one, at least around here.

Short version is it should take about 20-30 seconds from first drop to finish. Watch youtube videos. Much better.

frugal noob quick advice: Can make some great espresso drinks with a good grinder, exact-temp capable gooseneck kettle and an aeropress, or pour overs (with v60 for example), and some reading and video watching.
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Feb 28, 2022 10:36 PM
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JT1994Feb 28, 2022 10:36 PM
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Quote from moshter11 :
If anyone is considering buying Virtuoso to pair with their espresso machine, do not expect great results. I regret not getting something with micro-adjustments. While you can modify Virtuoso/Encore to be step-less, it just looks like a pain and potentially waste a lot of coffee beans trying to get it properly adjusted.
Really good for drip and pourover, though
Feb 28, 2022 11:06 PM
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suntzu187Feb 28, 2022 11:06 PM
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How much better are these than the Oxo burr grinder? I got that deal a couple years ago since the Caspresso hadn't gone on sale in a long time. Have been a bit disappointed with that one-- grind size isn't that consistent. I do Chemex.

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Feb 28, 2022 11:55 PM
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mpowley86Feb 28, 2022 11:55 PM
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I have an encore; has been working well for past 8 years but looking for something that can have more fine tune adjustments for pour overs. Worth upgrading to virtuoso?

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