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Sennheiser HD 560S Wired Over-The-Ear Headphones
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With that said, they make the 6xx sound exciting and that's hard to do. These are extremely neutral. They're a bit harsh on the top end for me but they're still great. I used them as my main set until I got Focal Clears. Now I use them with my PS5.
Edit: As for open vs closed back, open back is better for gaming. Much wider soundstage, less overpowering bass usually. Better for footsteps, vocals, etc. However sound leakage is a consideration. It's not enough to transmit through a mic(I've tested dynamic and condenser) but it is noticeable to others in a room with you.
Also the replacement cable, should you ever need one, is $10 on amazon. That isn't expensive, and the stock ones are durable as hell from my experience.
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So yes you can drive them, just not very well. Why handicap a pair of headphones with a poor source of power?
On the Hel2 and Zen, can you set up EQs on the PS5 and Xbox with them? No? You can with the soundblaster. You can set up an EQ to increase the frequencies that footsteps are at and the Soundblaster can power the hungry AKG K712 Pro headphones sufficiently for gaming.
So much bad advice from someone that probably doesn't even own decent headphones or amps or dacs.
2. When you buy a set of headphones tailored with a specific sound signature - EQ is not necessary and not recommended - you are changing the signature of the headphone. HD560s absolutely do NOT need a DAC on a PS5 to hear footsteps adequately - ive played COD at master volume 90% and heard every footstep with crystal clear clarity
3. Soundblaster is a trash DAC/AMP when compared with something like a Schit Hel2 or the Zen Dac V2 which are the two highest recommended (and compatible) units with next gen consoles. I prefer the Schit Hel2 but they are hard to get right now.
4. I use the HD560s or the TYGR 300 when gaming from a couch as both those units can be powered with a controller adequately - both are amazing for the three newest COD titles (albeit I only usually play MW, Warzone, and a little Cold War). I rotate between these and the HD6XX (single player gaming) putting my budget for PS5 gaming audio around $1k.
5. The advice i gave is not only correct it is echoed on HiFi forums, trusted Youtube reviewers, and countless Reddit threads.
6. As for you assuming I dont own any proper headphones or DAC/AMP combos, you tell me if what I own is up to your "standards"
When I am sitting at my desk listening to music or playing games on PC i use:
- RME ADI 2 DAC FS (picked up it up sale for $1200)
- Sennheiser HD800 (paid $1300)
- If just using for music listening I will use a tube amp like the DNA Stellaris (runs about $6K)
I dont know what "decent" means to you but Im pretty sure my 10k+ set up far exceeds anything you have listened to or even seen in person.
Best of luck
2. When you buy a set of headphones tailored with a specific sound signature - EQ is not necessary and not recommended - you are changing the signature of the headphone. HD560s absolutely do NOT need a DAC on a PS5 to hear footsteps adequately - ive played COD at master volume 90% and heard every footstep with crystal clear clarity
3. Soundblaster is a trash DAC/AMP when compared with something like a Schit Hel2 or the Zen Dac V2 which are the two highest recommended (and compatible) units with next gen consoles. I prefer the Schit Hel2 but they are hard to get right now.
4. I use the HD560s or the TYGR 300 when gaming from a couch as both those units can be powered with a controller adequately - both are amazing for the three newest COD titles (albeit I only usually play MW, Warzone, and a little Cold War). I rotate between these and the HD6XX (single player gaming) putting my budget for PS5 gaming audio around $1k.
5. The advice i gave is not only correct it is echoed on HiFi forums, trusted Youtube reviewers, and countless Reddit threads.
6. As for you assuming I dont own any proper headphones or DAC/AMP combos, you tell me if what I own is up to your "standards"
When I am sitting at my desk listening to music or playing games on PC i use:
- RME ADI 2 DAC FS (picked up it up sale for $1200)
- Sennheiser HD800 (paid $1300)
- If just using for music listening I will use a tube amp like the DNA Stellaris (runs about $6K)
I dont know what "decent" means to you but Im pretty sure my 10k+ set up far exceeds anything you have listened to or even seen in person.
Best of luck
On the hd560s being powered by the controller? I said it can be looked up on Google and see actual people's experience with it on through the controller and through an amp. Also, you seem to be dismissing the G6 without doing any research. Every review of it does very well, including audiosciencereview, but you obviously know more than people who's passion is testing and measuring equipment. You already said you know more about the hd560s than people who have used it.
On the hd560s being powered by the controller? I said it can be looked up on Google and see actual people's experience with it on through the controller and through an amp. Also, you seem to be dismissing the G6 without doing any research. Every review of it does very well, including audiosciencereview, but you obviously know more than people who's passion is testing and measuring equipment. You already said you know more about the hd560s than people who have used it.
Where in my description did I say i own one pair of headphones?
I said while gaming, i use HD560s, TYGR 300, or my HD800S.
Since these are my most used headphones, the rest are brought out if i want a different sound signature or am listening to a specific genre/artist of music.
Here are the headphones I currently own (shared with my spouse):
- HD560S, TYGR 300, HD6XX, HD800S
- Hifiman Shangri la jr
- Focal Utopia
- Audeze LCD-4
Also own a few pairs of higher end IEMs as well:
- 64 audio u12t
- Moondrop Blessings 2 Dusk
- Moondrop Variations
- And also one custom set of IEM - PEARS SH-3
First you stated I have never heard any headphones or used proper audio equipment.
Then when I list of my expensive equipment you question the number of pairs of headphones I own.
What's your issue here man?
Did you not like how I crapped all over the SoundBlaster G6? I simply stated that the Zen DAC V2 / Hel2 simply work better with modern gen consoles that's it.
You are putting a lot of your money on what is said online in reviews.
I put my money where my mouth is, i buy the headphones and try them myself, you should try it.
I simply offered the pros and cons of the HD560s and my experience with them - being that they are my favorite gaming headphone when I am sitting away from my desk on the couch playing my PS5.
If I am gaming on the Series X/PC in my home office, I usually would use the HD800S with a dynamic mic for my FPS gaming needs but nothing beats the plug and play of the HD560s if you are interested in competitive gaming. TGYR comes close but the bass drowns out some important sound cues and muddies up the details.
95% of gamers dont need the extra clarity/imaging provided by the HD560s/TYGR even if they are playing competitive FPS games. This is Slickdeals, saving $150-200 is a big deal. The volume is way more than adequate with many people turning their main FPS game volume/console volume down when using either headphone.
Why buy the Soundblaster for no reason? Law of diminishing returns my friend. Now if they are using a pair of HD800s obviously powering them correctly would make sense. But the amount of clarity / imaging a person would lose plugging into a controller is very minimal.
Btw you are aware the G6 uses an optical port as a method to connect to Sony Playstation consoles and that the PS5 does not have one, right? ZenDac V2/Hel2 are plug and play. Makes your argument even worse.
You seem really bitter and argumentative, which sucks, hope things look up for you, best of luck
Where in my description did I say i own one pair of headphones?
I said while gaming, i use HD560s, TYGR 300, or my HD800S.
Since these are my most used headphones, the rest are brought out if i want a different sound signature or am listening to a specific genre/artist of music.
Here are the headphones I currently own (shared with my spouse):
- HD560S, TYGR 300, HD6XX, HD800S
- Hifiman Shangri la jr
- Focal Utopia
- Audeze LCD-4
Also own a few pairs of higher end IEMs as well:
- 64 audio u12t
- Moondrop Blessings 2 Dusk
- Moondrop Variations
- And also one custom set of IEM - PEARS SH-3
First you stated I have never heard any headphones or used proper audio equipment.
Then when I list of my expensive equipment you question the number of pairs of headphones I own.
What's your issue here man?
Did you not like how I crapped all over the SoundBlaster G6? I simply stated that the Zen DAC V2 / Hel2 simply work better with modern gen consoles that's it.
You are putting a lot of your money on what is said online in reviews.
I put my money where my mouth is, i buy the headphones and try them myself, you should try it.
I simply offered the pros and cons of the HD560s and my experience with them - being that they are my favorite gaming headphone when I am sitting away from my desk on the couch playing my PS5.
If I am gaming on the Series X/PC in my home office, I usually would use the HD800S with a dynamic mic for my FPS gaming needs but nothing beats the plug and play of the HD560s if you are interested in competitive gaming. TGYR comes close but the bass drowns out some important sound cues and muddies up the details.
95% of gamers dont need the extra clarity/imaging provided by the HD560s/TYGR even if they are playing competitive FPS games. This is Slickdeals, saving $150-200 is a big deal. The volume is way more than adequate with many people turning their main FPS game volume/console volume down when using either headphone.
Why buy the Soundblaster for no reason? Law of diminishing returns my friend. Now if they are using a pair of HD800s obviously powering them correctly would make sense. But the amount of clarity / imaging a person would lose plugging into a controller is very minimal.
Btw you are aware the G6 uses an optical port as a method to connect to Sony Playstation consoles and that the PS5 does not have one, right? ZenDac V2/Hel2 are plug and play. Makes your argument even worse.
You seem really bitter and argumentative, which sucks, hope things look up for you, best of luck
I do know more than people who have first hand experience because I have the same exact first hand experience if not more. I own a Series X, a high end gaming PC, and a Playstation 5. I own an amp alone that costs $6k with over 9 headphones with an MSRP of $1500-2000 per set.
Im glad you actually own the G6 - but since I already own high end DACs and DAC/AMPS have no reason for a device that requires a complicated work around to work with next gen consoles.
Again let me repeat myself since you have an issue with reading comprehension. The G6 REQUIRES an optical port to interface with the PS5. Meaning you either have to run an optical cable to your TV or use an HDMI splitter which limits the resolution to 1080p at framerates higher than 60 FPS.
What's the point in buying a pair of headphones that already are tuned with a "gaming advantage" like the 560s/TYGR only to use an external EQ like the G6? Zero, its counter-intuitive.
Hel2 and Zen Dac 2 are PLUG AND PLAY. I dont need to worry about splitters or optical cables. I plug it into the back of my PS5 and go.
And stop acting like the HD560s or the TYGR are some power hungry headphones like the HD800S or HD6XX that simply wont run past 20% volume if that with a controller on Xbox/PS5.
It's blatant misinformation. Period.
Also recommending the SoundBlaster G6 to people who own the Series X and PS5 is outright stupid.
From the manufacturer's own webpage "Sound BlasterX G6
7.1 HD External Console Gaming DAC Amp with Xamp Discrete Headphone Bi-amp for PS4™, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, and PC"
The device does not have OFFICIAL support for either the Xbox Series X or the PS5. Work arounds are needed for the PS5 and Series X has tons of issues if you can get it to work. 100s of Reddit thread from 2021-2022 confirm that fact.
Want the game chat mix? one of the biggest "features" of the G6 well here is what Creative has to say about that "
*GameVoice Mix is available on PS4™, PS4 Pro, PS4 Slim, and PS5™ only via optical cable connection."
VIA OPTICAL CABLE CONNECTION - lol.
Hel2 and Zen Dac V2 have been confirmed to work with both Series X and PS5 OUT OF THE GATE - why not use devices that the manufacturer have confirmed to be tailored for next gen consoles in mind.
Every argument you have presented has been wrong, you insulted me on baseless info, claimed that I dont own any high end audio equipment while you sit here and defend a $120 G6 as if your life depended on it.
It's sad man, it's the weekend, enjoy your life stop being bitter about something that is inconsequential and stupid
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The rubberized New Fantasia cable i have tried required a lot of force to get into the headphone port and i couldnt really feel a twist
The OEM cable is a smooth insert and then a very gentle twist
This is the one ive tried (besides the microphone OEM one and stock OEM)
https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-Replacement-Compatible-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B07K82Z43J/ref=pd... [amazon.com]
I can hear the click but the twist is not discernible.
Sometimes it works - audio to both ear drivers - sometimes its just to the left cup
The rubberized New Fantasia cable i have tried required a lot of force to get into the headphone port and i couldnt really feel a twist
The OEM cable is a smooth insert and then a very gentle twist
This is the one ive tried (besides the microphone OEM one and stock OEM)
https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-Replacement-Compatible-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B07K82Z43J/ref=pd... [amazon.com]
I can hear the click but the twist is not discernible.
Sometimes it works - audio to both ear drivers - sometimes its just to the left cup
Who sells the 5N OCC cable?
Which one do you think is the best one?
I do know more than people who have first hand experience because I have the same exact first hand experience if not more. I own a Series X, a high end gaming PC, and a Playstation 5. I own an amp alone that costs $6k with over 9 headphones with an MSRP of $1500-2000 per set.
Im glad you actually own the G6 - but since I already own high end DACs and DAC/AMPS have no reason for a device that requires a complicated work around to work with next gen consoles.
Again let me repeat myself since you have an issue with reading comprehension. The G6 REQUIRES an optical port to interface with the PS5. Meaning you either have to run an optical cable to your TV or use an HDMI splitter which limits the resolution to 1080p at framerates higher than 60 FPS.
What's the point in buying a pair of headphones that already are tuned with a "gaming advantage" like the 560s/TYGR only to use an external EQ like the G6? Zero, its counter-intuitive.
Hel2 and Zen Dac 2 are PLUG AND PLAY. I dont need to worry about splitters or optical cables. I plug it into the back of my PS5 and go.
And stop acting like the HD560s or the TYGR are some power hungry headphones like the HD800S or HD6XX that simply wont run past 20% volume if that with a controller on Xbox/PS5.
It's blatant misinformation. Period.
Also recommending the SoundBlaster G6 to people who own the Series X and PS5 is outright stupid.
From the manufacturer's own webpage "Sound BlasterX G6
7.1 HD External Console Gaming DAC Amp with Xamp Discrete Headphone Bi-amp for PS4™, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, and PC"
The device does not have OFFICIAL support for either the Xbox Series X or the PS5. Work arounds are needed for the PS5 and Series X has tons of issues if you can get it to work. 100s of Reddit thread from 2021-2022 confirm that fact.
Want the game chat mix? one of the biggest "features" of the G6 well here is what Creative has to say about that "
*GameVoice Mix is available on PS4™, PS4 Pro, PS4 Slim, and PS5™ only via optical cable connection."
VIA OPTICAL CABLE CONNECTION - lol.
Hel2 and Zen Dac V2 have been confirmed to work with both Series X and PS5 OUT OF THE GATE - why not use devices that the manufacturer have confirmed to be tailored for next gen consoles in mind.
Every argument you have presented has been wrong, you insulted me on baseless info, claimed that I dont own any high end audio equipment while you sit here and defend a $120 G6 as if your life depended on it.
It's sad man, it's the weekend, enjoy your life stop being bitter about something that is inconsequential and stupid
Here's one thing I do know. My Sennheiser HD598se sound much fuller and better on the G6 than they did when I used to use it on the Xbox, which now collects dust. That headphone has lower power requirements than the HD560s. Huh, how can that be when you say it'll work great with controller. Oh right, you have no clue what you're talking about.
The question becomes which one is better for you: HD560s or TYGR 300r.
With the tygr you gain the bass extension , better build quality,, better comfort and the V shape sound that some prefer.
With the HD560s you gain better mids, detachable cord unlike the Tygr's attached cord, and a neutral sound that some prefer.
I didnt notice much of a difference besides what i just mentioned but again...my subjective opinion. You could nitpick at soundstage, detail retrieval but tbh they are both very close.
So....
The best thing about either one is that they are so good, you would need to step up pretty high up the price ladder to get something better in most/all aspects
Here's one thing I do know. My Sennheiser HD598se sound much fuller and better on the G6 than they did when I used to use it on the Xbox, which now collects dust. That headphone has lower power requirements than the HD560s. Huh, how can that be when you say it'll work great with controller. Oh right, you have no clue what you're talking about.
The G6 is a trash device, at $150-160 it's embarrassingly expensive considering the other options like the ZenDACV2/ZenDacAir/Hel2e/Fulla E - all much better.
But what would you know you are using a pair of low end headphones with a DAC that your average audiophile would laugh at.
Maybe at $50 it may be worth it, at $150 it's an embarrassingly bad purchase.
As a rough estimate my entire headphone/DAC/AMP set up ran me upwards of $30k and that's not even touching my studio speakers or my home theater speaker set up, but you are right i have no idea what i'm talking about after spending nearly a decade with the BEST headphones/dacs-amps money can buy.
Enjoy your G6 - you know what they say in the audiophile world - IGNORANCE is BLISS
Who sells the 5N OCC cable?
Which one do you think is the best one?
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The G6 is a trash device, at $150-160 it's embarrassingly expensive considering the other options like the ZenDACV2/ZenDacAir/Hel2e/Fulla E - all much better.
But what would you know you are using a pair of low end headphones with a DAC that your average audiophile would laugh at.
Maybe at $50 it may be worth it, at $150 it's an embarrassingly bad purchase.
As a rough estimate my entire headphone/DAC/AMP set up ran me upwards of $30k and that's not even touching my studio speakers or my home theater speaker set up, but you are right i have no idea what i'm talking about after spending nearly a decade with the BEST headphones/dacs-amps money can buy.
Enjoy your G6 - you know what they say in the audiophile world - IGNORANCE is BLISS
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