I found a few different Eaton Z Wave Switches and Outlets in my local Lowes today with prices ranging from $10.47 to just under $12. The the picture for details.
The Ring alarm hub supports zwave IIRC. Anyone tried connecting light switches to that?
It's okay if you only want basic functionality, but setting up more involved automations can be a pain. It really depends on your usecase. Since you have it already, it can't hurt to get a few cheap zwave devices and play around with it, and upgrade to a more full-featured hub if you find yourself wanting more control/features.
Agree. I am dreading what it will be like having to switch and redo my entire system.
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I literally just started this my dude. Slowly getting my home assistant setup going. Between YouTube guides and the Reddit/forums it's not awful.
I just switched from Smartthings (ST) to HomeSeer. It was painless switch. HomeSeer has a zwave function to exclude all my devices currently on ST. Then use similar process to include it into HomeSeer. So far, it's pretty reliable. I should have made the switch long time ago. Stupid ST kept tripping up my zwave (no responsive). Finally I decided to pull the trigger. If you subscribe to HomeSeer email (patiently wait for their sales normally happen on the weekend that nobody pays attention). Their full Pro version normally goes on sales for $99. The upgrade is even cheaper. I saw as cheap as $40. The zwave smart stick or z-stick costs about $40 bucks. You can install on a linux or win machine (another small cost if you don't have one already, get the elcheapo NUC style from Chinese company)
Anyhow, I chose HomeSeer for now because it's quick and easy and plus they have free integration with Alexa. Down the line, I'll check out HomeAssistant (mainly to learn YAML and some Python stuff).
Anyway, you can't go wrong with either HS or HA. But if you're inclined to stay with ST, then goo luck to you.
I just switched from Smartthings (ST) to HomeSeer. It was painless switch. HomeSeer has a zwave function to exclude all my devices currently on ST. Then use similar process to include it into HomeSeer. So far, it's pretty reliable. I should have made the switch long time ago. Stupid ST kept tripping up my zwave (no responsive). Finally I decided to pull the trigger. If you subscribe to HomeSeer email (patiently wait for their sales normally happen on the weekend that nobody pays attention). Their full Pro version normally goes on sales for $99. The upgrade is even cheaper. I saw as cheap as $40. The zwave smart stick or z-stick costs about $40 bucks. You can install on a linux or win machine (another small cost if you don't have one already, get the elcheapo NUC style from Chinese company)
Anyhow, I chose HomeSeer for now because it's quick and easy and plus they have free integration with Alexa. Down the line, I'll check out HomeAssistant (mainly to learn YAML and some Python stuff).
Anyway, you can go wrong with either HS or HA. But if you're inclined to stay with ST, then goo luck to you.
Thank you for your info and perspective!
I'm moving on from ST after getting a Zooz ZEN17 relay to open my garage door (early 2000s chamberlain with remote receiver not working, no new remotes will program to it) so I figured, hey fun project to get the garage working again. NOT. I got it hooked up, control and smartapp all working fine. Then on literally the first night my garage door opened at 3am, in not a nice neighborhood. I didn't have any automations or anything, just a single button press on the device card to open it and shut it. I was still in testing mode and shopping for a tilt sensor for door feedback, but didn't think ST would send a random relay command at 3am when I was sleeping. I confirmed it wasn't a wiring or device config issue. So, ST randomly sent a command to open my garage in the middle of the night.
I'm currently going all in on Home Assistant. Got a HP Elitedesk G3 running virtual box with HA, got the Zooz 700 zwave stick for $28, and just geeking out on the platform. As literally everyone says, HA is incredible but a moderately steep initial learning curve. I'd rather learn this one and make it a fun project and slowly adopt groups of devices in chunks. One weekend I'll adopt the lights, then the sensors, cameras, etc.
That's cool there's a batch exclusion/inclusion in Homeseer. I gotta make a note to explore this in HA, so thank you for informing me that protocol actually exists!
Agree. I am dreading what it will be like having to switch and redo my entire system.
It's not too bad if you want to migrate to HA. There's a ST integration so stand up your hub, get the foundation made, and do the ST integration. Then start moving over devices as you see fit. ST will work as it does today, and you can still trigger actions from devices already migrated to HA. Eventually nothing is left in ST and you can decommission it.
With local install you have no access outside of home without internet to smart features. Maybe that's desired. Otherwise you need to have internet still AND have to manage VPN and/or Dynamic IP / Static IP and firewall configuration to access when not at home. Using cloud service alleviates a lot of that complexity, with the tradeoff we must trust their security and are at their mercy if they should decide to change and/or discontinue services. Which is best for you is a personal choice, but to say one is better/worse as a blanket statement is biased at best. Setting up Homeassistant is complicated, even for IT folks. Have experienced both options myself and given up on HA as it wasn't worth the benefit to me. I don't feel I'm alone, I have seen a good YT video showing the pitfalls and documentation issues. That said, I wouldn't discourage against HA, I have a buddy who did set it up and is very happy with the results, but he's also a developer and enjoys tinkering around with all the minutia. So, YMMV.
home assistant is awesome, but needs a lot of work to setup
2nd the recommendation on Smartthings hub. My v2 has been rock solid for at least 2 years. I haven't restarted it or it hasn't lost any device after power outage etc. It just works.
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No outlets tho 😥
I just switched from Smartthings (ST) to HomeSeer. It was painless switch. HomeSeer has a zwave function to exclude all my devices currently on ST. Then use similar process to include it into HomeSeer. So far, it's pretty reliable. I should have made the switch long time ago. Stupid ST kept tripping up my zwave (no responsive). Finally I decided to pull the trigger. If you subscribe to HomeSeer email (patiently wait for their sales normally happen on the weekend that nobody pays attention). Their full Pro version normally goes on sales for $99. The upgrade is even cheaper. I saw as cheap as $40. The zwave smart stick or z-stick costs about $40 bucks. You can install on a linux or win machine (another small cost if you don't have one already, get the elcheapo NUC style from Chinese company)
Anyhow, I chose HomeSeer for now because it's quick and easy and plus they have free integration with Alexa. Down the line, I'll check out HomeAssistant (mainly to learn YAML and some Python stuff).
Anyway, you can't go wrong with either HS or HA. But if you're inclined to stay with ST, then goo luck to you.
Anyhow, I chose HomeSeer for now because it's quick and easy and plus they have free integration with Alexa. Down the line, I'll check out HomeAssistant (mainly to learn YAML and some Python stuff).
Anyway, you can go wrong with either HS or HA. But if you're inclined to stay with ST, then goo luck to you.
I'm moving on from ST after getting a Zooz ZEN17 relay to open my garage door (early 2000s chamberlain with remote receiver not working, no new remotes will program to it) so I figured, hey fun project to get the garage working again. NOT. I got it hooked up, control and smartapp all working fine. Then on literally the first night my garage door opened at 3am, in not a nice neighborhood. I didn't have any automations or anything, just a single button press on the device card to open it and shut it. I was still in testing mode and shopping for a tilt sensor for door feedback, but didn't think ST would send a random relay command at 3am when I was sleeping. I confirmed it wasn't a wiring or device config issue. So, ST randomly sent a command to open my garage in the middle of the night.
I'm currently going all in on Home Assistant. Got a HP Elitedesk G3 running virtual box with HA, got the Zooz 700 zwave stick for $28, and just geeking out on the platform. As literally everyone says, HA is incredible but a moderately steep initial learning curve. I'd rather learn this one and make it a fun project and slowly adopt groups of devices in chunks. One weekend I'll adopt the lights, then the sensors, cameras, etc.
That's cool there's a batch exclusion/inclusion in Homeseer. I gotta make a note to explore this in HA, so thank you for informing me that protocol actually exists!
Channel with some (imo) good HA reviews: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulHibbert/videos (not affiliated, feel free to post current how-to that is accurate / up to date). Example video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glqS5kE
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home assistant is awesome, but needs a lot of work to setup
2nd the recommendation on Smartthings hub. My v2 has been rock solid for at least 2 years. I haven't restarted it or it hasn't lost any device after power outage etc. It just works.
I would say get something like this. 4 for $33 and no hub needed.