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I get people often prefer the convenience of digital but for us that prefer better quality it sucks! 😡
I get people often prefer the convenience of digital but for us that prefer better quality it sucks! 😡
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Unfortunately too often people have a misconception that what a movie is shot in will tell you how well it looks/sounds.
Truthfully it's in the transfer, If it involves HDR then how well that content is processed/converted and how well your display can take advantage of that content.
Generally any form of digital HDR is inferior compared to disc.
Often if you compare digital DV(HDR) vs HDR10 on disc, disc will be better.
The caveat here is having good equipment and proper setup plays a critical role with this.
On the AQ side it's not even a conversation/debate, disc is better by a significant margin.
I get people often prefer the convenience of digital but for us that prefer better quality it sucks! 😡
I've heard Disney has had pain points in mastering UHD discs with high bitrates (and especially lacking triple layer discs) so perhaps that's why. Mastering a disc with high bitrate and (especially the FEL variant of DV that adds quite a bit more on top) gets tricky when you are at the boundaries of discs on the inner track so you get a lower transfer rate at the same angular velocity. Only Black Panther and The Last Jedi UHD titles have included DV that I've come across...
I've heard Disney has had pain points in mastering UHD discs with high bitrates (and especially lacking triple layer discs) so perhaps that's why. Mastering a disc with high bitrate and (especially the FEL variant of DV that adds quite a bit more on top) gets tricky when you are at the boundaries of discs on the inner track so you get a lower transfer rate at the same angular velocity. Only Black Panther and The Last Jedi UHD titles have included DV that I've come across...
Why would they bother to make a DV transfer just for digital viewing unless you want people to believe the digital offers an "upgrade" over disc, which is not necessarily true.
The other I have tried is Captain Marvel and IMO digital DV really adds no advantage over disc HDR.
AQ wise there is a significant drop in quality with streaming.
Why would they bother to make a DV transfer just for digital viewing unless you want people to believe the digital offers an "upgrade" over disc, which is not necessarily true.
The other I have tried is Captain Marvel and IMO digital DV really adds no advantage over disc HDR.
AQ wise there is a significant drop in quality with streaming.
UHD on the other hand has to contain everything and essentially layer it according to what the overall setup can handle. It's why UHD discs have Profile 7 DV (dual with a HDR10 base and either MEL or FEL DV enhancement layer), but streaming only contains a single layer so no other base HDR format to fall back on.
It's even more prevalent with audio. Atmos on discs rides on top of True HD, which in turn usually contains a Dolby digital core. DTS:X is on top of DTS HD MA, which in turn always has a DTS core track.
UHD on the other hand has to contain everything and essentially layer it according to what the overall setup can handle. It's why UHD discs have Profile 7 DV (dual with a HDR10 base and either MEL or FEL DV enhancement layer), but streaming only contains a single layer so no other base HDR format to fall back on.
It's even more prevalent with audio. Atmos on discs rides on top of True HD, which in turn usually contains a Dolby digital core. DTS:X is on top of DTS HD MA, which in turn always has a DTS core track.
All forms of HDR has to be downscaled to current displays.
HDR10 is static HDR and DV is dynamic HDR. Since DV is proprietary The content can't be manipulated whereas HDR can and usually is.
In short that's why many times DV is marginally better than HDR depending on your equipment.
Still make since why Disney only does this on just a few movies.
Again on the AQ side it's not a debate, even BD disc AQ is better than streaming 4K Atmos/X.
Unfortunately too often people have a misconception that what a movie is shot in will tell you how well it looks/sounds.
Truthfully it's in the transfer, If it involves HDR then how well that content is processed/converted and how well your display can take advantage of that content.
Generally any form of digital HDR is inferior compared to disc.
Often if you compare digital DV(HDR) vs HDR10 on disc, disc will be better.
The caveat here is having good equipment and proper setup plays a critical role with this.
On the AQ side it's not even a conversation/debate, disc is better by a significant margin.
Whether it's the movie or game industry digital distribution is always something that the industries would prefer as it increases their profits not having to sell through retail outlets.
Disney's opting to (to my knowledge) not release a single physical Dolby Vision or true 4K release seems to indicate they would rather people buy digital. I get that a lot of CG editing is done in 2K so releasing a 4K movie with 2K post-production work can be "jarring". And I've heard it's for this reason that many film releases in 4K are simply 2K releases.
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Whether it's the movie or game industry digital distribution is always something that the industries would prefer as it increases their profits not having to sell through retail outlets.
Disney's opting to (to my knowledge) not release a single physical Dolby Vision or true 4K release seems to indicate they would rather people buy digital. I get that a lot of CG editing is done in 2K so releasing a 4K movie with 2K post-production work can be "jarring". And I've heard it's for this reason that many film releases in 4K are simply 2K releases.
That implies digital UHD is true 4K?
You believe they transfer a movie in "true 4K" for streaming and make a different 2K transfer for disc?
So whatever 2K is, it's not UHD?
I think most if not all Disney UHD disc I own are transferred to include HDR10.
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