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expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 02:05 AM
expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 02:05 AM

US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (May - October '22)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)

9.62% Interest (Annualized for 6 Months)

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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Written by Libertarian

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coolcoder
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If you buy by the end of April, you will get 7.12% for the first 6 months, and 9.62% for the 6 months after that (you are locked in at 9.62% for the second 6 months even if the rate for the period starting Nov 2022 is lower). Even if you could, why would you want to take your money out while you are earning 9.62%? You can take your money out after 12 months and before 5 years with a penalty equal to the last three months of interest.

Also, it is highly unlikely that inflation is going to go down to 0% anytime soon, so most of us will just leave the money in there for at least 5 years if not longer. Sure beats the 0.5% - 1% savings interest I was getting.
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Assuming you want to hold for 18 months:

Buy today: 7.12% for next 6 mo + 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon

Buy in May: 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon + (unknown)% for next 6 mon
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Certainly emergencies can happen, and you should never invest money that is set aside for an emergency fund in things like this for that reason. But the majority of people buying these bonds realize that and are investing money they will not need to access in that time frame. If you only have 10k savings total, you should probably not invest it in these bonds.

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Apr 29, 2022 03:45 AM
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antfreebeeApr 29, 2022 03:45 AM
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My understanding is that you can buy $10,000 worth of I Bonds per calendar year. Come Jan 2023, you can buy another $10,000. Beats savings and CD's if you have that on the side.
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redeyedogApr 29, 2022 03:47 AM
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Quote from Libertarian :
Mods: This is posted as a new deal (not a repost) with permission from SuperModerator landen118.

US government [treasurydirect.gov] will be paying 9.62% on its I-bonds in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased 05/01/22-10/30/22.

I-bonds are currently paying 7.12% for purchases through the end of this month. This rate is in effect for six months, and will then "reset" to the rate to be set on May 1, anticipated to be 9.62%. In laymen's terms: These are safe U.S. treasury securities which adjust their interest rate every 6 months based on the current inflation rate. If you own a bond before the end of April, you lock in 7.12% interest for the first six months and then will receive the new rate set on Saturday (anticipated to be 9.62% based on the data) for the following six months. This results in a 12 month yield of approximately 8.5%.

Friday, 04/29 (assuming an actual withdrawal date of 04/30) is the last day to lock in the current 7.12% six month rate, which will then adjust upward. This makes the next 24 hours a unique opportunity to obtain these guaranteed high rates for the next 12 months.

Source #1 [cnbc.com]
Source #2 (with monthly data that the rate is based on) [tipswatch.com]
Source #3 [forbes.com]




Source: https://www.marketwatch.com/story...1651156814

For further details on how I-bonds work, see the previous Front Page deal when the 7.12% rate was announced. There is plenty of discussion and information there on how I-bonds work. This is an opportunity to achieve a higher rate for a longer term.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...s_ibuy.htm
Bought in on previous frontpage deal. How does this deal affect those bonds already purchased?Maxed out on that deal. Not in position to max out in this deal.
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TikiTakaApr 29, 2022 03:48 AM
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If I want to buy this for my 3 years old kid. How should I report the gain to IRS? Also, how can I prove to IRS that the sold money is used for kid tuition?
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antfreebeeApr 29, 2022 03:49 AM
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Quote from redeyedog :
Bought in on previous frontpage deal. How does this deal affect those bonds already purchased?Maxed out on that deal. Not in position to max out in this deal.
You just get more interest for months 7-12.
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Quote from redeyedog :
Bought in on previous frontpage deal. How does this deal affect those bonds already purchased?Maxed out on that deal. Not in position to max out in this deal.
It's not a new deal. It's the same thing.

You're getting 7% and then 9% after the initial 6 months. ​
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SlickWheelerNDealerApr 29, 2022 03:50 AM
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Is the value of the savings bond in the treasury direct website only updated yearly? I've had mine for almost two months now and it still shows as value being the purchasing price.
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FancyKite319Apr 29, 2022 03:51 AM
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Quote from BenedictDonald :
You would have to be a fool to not take advantage of this, if you have the excess funds lying around.

The biggest downside IMO is nuclear war with Russia.
If a nuclear war with Russia happens, this will be the least of your worries.
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Quote from fallingwalls :
Is the value of the savings bond in the treasury direct website only updated yearly? I've had mine for almost two months now and it still shows as value being the purchasing price.
because it's taking account of the 3 month penalty
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Quote from fallingwalls :
Is the value of the savings bond in the treasury direct website only updated yearly? I've had mine for almost two months now and it still shows as value being the purchasing price.
You'll start to see the interest show up after 3 months.
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FancyKite319Apr 29, 2022 03:52 AM
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Quote from fallingwalls :
Is the value of the savings bond in the treasury direct website only updated yearly? I've had mine for almost two months now and it still shows as value being the purchasing price.
Till 5 years the bond shows a 3 month penalty for the last 3 months of interest earned. After 5 years it will show fully earned interest up to the prior full month
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FancyKite319Apr 29, 2022 03:55 AM
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Quote from TikiTaka :
If I want to buy this for my 3 years old kid. How should I report the gain to IRS? Also, how can I prove to IRS that the sold money is used for kid tuition?
You can report the gain every year on accrual or show the gain when you redeem it in the tax return you file. You also indicate in the same tax return if it was used for education or not - if you get audited then you better have proof to back that claim up or else you'll get a free colonoscopy from the IRS without being sedated.
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shjApr 29, 2022 03:56 AM
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Quote from Scoreracing :
This is not worth it guys. Not yet anyways. Inflation is going to get worse in coming months. April inflation is likely going to come in at 9.5% based on monthly growth rates lately. Inflationary periods don't just quickly go down they taper off if anything. That's the time to buy. With recession confirmed in Q2 and inflation continuing, things will get hella worse before Fed's rates do anything.

So locking in at 8.5% for 12 months is likely to lose you a couple % under inflation in just next few months.
Do you have a better investment for the next 12 months? Something safe.
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skeleton516Apr 29, 2022 03:57 AM
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Quote from Buddypoppie :
Remember annual 10k limit is per person. So this is excellent time so pour in for yourself and spouse. Also, use the trick of "gifting" to each other. There is no limit on that. As an example You can buy 50k of "gift" for your spouse now, lock-in the rate for next 12 months and then actually assign 10k from it every year for next 5 years. Your spouse can do the same in reverse for you.
So if you gift to your wife 10k in 2023, will she be able to buy another 10K for herself in 2023?
What I am trying to figure out is that each SSN/EIN can only acquire 10K worth of I bond per calendar year whether or not it is thru purchase or gift?

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FancyKite319Apr 29, 2022 03:59 AM
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Quote from Scoreracing :
This is not worth it guys. Not yet anyways. Inflation is going to get worse in coming months. April inflation is likely going to come in at 9.5% based on monthly growth rates lately. Inflationary periods don't just quickly go down they taper off if anything. That's the time to buy. With recession confirmed in Q2 and inflation continuing, things will get hella worse before Fed's rates do anything.

So locking in at 8.5% for 12 months is likely to lose you a couple % under inflation in just next few months.
If you have a better 100% safe investment that is not stocks, crypto, lottery ticket or the Nigerian prince giving the same or higher rate of return, please let us know. If the rate goes up due to inflation, you still get that when the rate changes in Nov.

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