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expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 2:05 AM

US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (May - October '22)

9.62% Interest (Annualized for 6 Months)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)
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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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Written by Libertarian

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Apr 30, 2022 1:02 AM
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DontBreakMy20Apr 30, 2022 1:02 AM
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Here is a question. How exactly is the government able to offer these investments? Does anyone understand what's under the hood?
Apr 30, 2022 1:05 AM
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jagsindApr 30, 2022 1:05 AM
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Is the 6 months lock in period for interest is it from the date you bought or calendar months like Jan to Jun and then July to Dec ?
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iahawks550Apr 30, 2022 1:09 AM
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Quote from jagsind :
Is the 6 months lock in period for interest is it from the date you bought or calendar months like Jan to Jun and then July to Dec ?
The date you bought it. (that month)
Apr 30, 2022 1:09 AM
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lord_snotApr 30, 2022 1:09 AM
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Quote from chowar01 :
Nope, but good try, these are VERY tricky so don't feel bad about not understanding how they work at all. Anyone who bought in April gets 7.1% for the first 6 months, then 9.6% for the next 6 months, then whatever the rate is in 6 months. It's ok that you bought late l, don't really understand them, and want to make yourself feel better
It seems to me some are discounting the "whatever the rate is in 6 months". If you haven't bought any this year and it's the last week of April, you should ask yourself "are things gonna be better or worse in 6 months?" I say worse, but that's my nature. The truth is when demand is greater than supply, you get inflation. Supply is not going to improve in the next 6 months. That's easy to see. The interest rate on these bonds is based on inflation right?
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acegolferApr 30, 2022 1:23 AM
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Quote from DontBreakMy20 :
Here is a question. How exactly is the government able to offer these investments? Does anyone understand what's under the hood?
As is full name (US Savings Bonds Series I) suggests, the government is offering these to promote savings. It's practically giving subsidy to ppl and limit the purchase to $10k/yr.
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Quote from lord_snot :
It seems to me some are discounting the "whatever the rate is in 6 months". If you haven't bought any this year and it's the last week of April, you should ask yourself "are things gonna be better or worse in 6 months?" I say worse, but that's my nature. The truth is when demand is greater than supply, you get inflation. Supply is not going to improve in the next 6 months. That's easy to see. The interest rate on these bonds is based on inflation right?
Yes, but as I understand it, if you bought in April, your rates are guaranteed for 12 months. You'll get 7.12 for six months and 9.62 for the next six months. My purchase won't go through until May, so I'll get 9.62 for six months then whatever the rate changes to in November, but I can't imagine a drastic drop in inflation over the next six month, so I feel pretty good about getting a decent rate in November.
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acegolferApr 30, 2022 1:24 AM
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Quote from jagsind :
Is the 6 months lock in period for interest is it from the date you bought or calendar months like Jan to Jun and then July to Dec ?
from purchase date

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doboy007Apr 30, 2022 1:26 AM
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Quote from DontBreakMy20 :
Here is a question. How exactly is the government able to offer these investments? Does anyone understand what's under the hood?
They just print money and give it to you, haha.
Apr 30, 2022 1:36 AM
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HilariousRecess268Apr 30, 2022 1:36 AM
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Quote from DontBreakMy20 :
Here is a question. How exactly is the government able to offer these investments? Does anyone understand what's under the hood?
The bonds are intended for regular people, not institutions. That is why the $10K per year limit. If institutions could buy these bonds, they would be loading up on them.

How can the government offer such great rates? They are not, it only appears that way. With the fixed rate being 0% and inflation so high, you are essentially just getting back the same money you put in after the government inflated the currency. That is if you actually believe the CPI numbers are not understated. Still, the bonds are the best game in town right now for safe cash investments. If interest rates on savings accounts and CDs were determined by the market and not artificially kept low by the fed these bonds would not seem so good. Bank interest rates would be much better with inflation this high.


Apr 30, 2022 1:46 AM
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mgehani90Apr 30, 2022 1:46 AM
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I gave them 10k. Boom.
Apr 30, 2022 2:20 AM
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8d2sApr 30, 2022 2:20 AM
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Quote from Fogmoose :
Certainly emergencies can happen, and you should never invest money that is set aside for an emergency fund in things like this for that reason. But the majority of people buying these bonds realize that and are investing money they will not need to access in that time frame. If you only have 10k savings total, you should probably not invest it in these bonds.
Like Alonso said, you have to know "are you a sheep or a wolf" If you can't manage your finances, and are in debt DONT buy, you'll get a haircut like a sheep and the system will just make poorer. If you are a wolf, then you just get a 0% card and pay for stuff while the bond matures. The money is going to be there backed by the full faith a credit of Uncle Sam and his armies. Cryptos, don't have armies and countries, so those will just keep deflating and nobody can guarantee you will get your money back.
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fw10001Apr 30, 2022 2:21 AM
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Quote from shj :
Assuming you want to hold for 18 months:

Buy today: 7.12% for next 6 mo + 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon

Buy in May: 9.6% for 6 mo after + (unknown)% for next 6 mon + (unknown)% for next 6 mon
Nice explanation, shj!
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belsbbbApr 30, 2022 2:22 AM
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Quote from MMPG :
So...what would I miss if I didn't do it yesterday? I can do it today and they process it on Monday 5/1 and I would earn the higher rate of 9% instead of the 7% till Nov...then whatever rate comes out I would switch to that rate. So what is the fuss that ppl made on YouTube a few days ago about "Thursday 4/28 is the last day to get bla bla"
Gotta say I love this community. Applause I didn't know the I bonds rate were so high. To answer some questions. People wanted to make sure they "lock in" high rates for the next 12 months by buying the I-bonds in April. If you buy the I bonds in May 2 (and later), the known rate is 9.62% for the next 6 months, and the rate in Nov 2022 is unknown. The forecast by some "experts" is that inflation rate peaked and will fall back down. Yeah, it's transitory. /s Personally, I think it will be higher than 9.62% (or at least 7.12%), but it's not guaranteed. I actually set the buy date for Monday May 2, instead of April 29. I guess we'll find out in 6 months if that's a good move. But over the next 30 years, I don't think it really matters. As for the interest, the I bonds interest is deferred. You pay tax on it when you redeem the bonds. No state tax on the interest, and no fed tax if I bonds is used for "education" (certain requirements need to be met.)

"You may, however, choose to report the interest every year." But... "Once you start to report the interest every year (for example, for a child in the child's Social Security Number), you must continue to do so every year after that for all your savings bonds (or, for example, the child's bonds) and any you acquire (or, the child acquires) in the future." [I think that kind of sucks...but that's an option.]

Another confusing part is the limit. It's "Electronic: $10,000, total, each calendar year." In addition... you can get "Paper: $5,000, total, each calendar year." But the catch... you can only get the Paper I bonds "By mail when you file your federal tax return."

Another trick that I learned here... you can pay the estimated tax with credit card at www.pay1040.com. There's a cost to it, but the credit card bonus could make it worthwhile.

And I agree with a lot of others' comments... the federal websites all look very suspicious and obsolete. Scary, but they seem to be legit. Hope this helps.
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Jerky_sanApr 30, 2022 2:48 AM
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Quote from SeriousTerrier997 :
Counter intuitive comment. The max you can get is 9% on $10000/per family member. If you have two adults in your family, this is not a lot. Invest that 20k on S&P today watch it grow up as Putin walks back into his grave.
Lol I started a Roth two weeks ago and already lost 500 investing in funds bogleheads recommend. Not really complaining but I also bought these bonds last month and at least I don't have to worry about them dropping.
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chowar01Apr 30, 2022 2:52 AM
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Quote from lord_snot :
It seems to me some are discounting the "whatever the rate is in 6 months". If you haven't bought any this year and it's the last week of April, you should ask yourself "are things gonna be better or worse in 6 months?" I say worse, but that's my nature. The truth is when demand is greater than supply, you get inflation. Supply is not going to improve in the next 6 months. That's easy to see. The interest rate on these bonds is based on inflation right?
It seems you are discounting how important it is to actually understand how these bonds work. At no point from now till the end of time will someone who owns these bonds "miss out" on higher interest rates because they bought early. The rate changes once every 6 months and locks for the 6 months in between. So everyone is getting the same rate for 6 months each, just with different "start dates" within that 6 month window. You seem to think inflation is going to go up since things "are gonna be worse", so let's go crazy and say it goes to 50% inflation in 2 months, you seem to think that someone who bought in April will somehow lose out because they can't buy as soon as that 50% is available - which is November - (or something along those lines, hard to follow your poor logic), well guess what, anyone who buys at 50% in November will have that rate for 6 months and then get whatever the new rate is next May, meanwhile the April buyers will get 6 months of 7.12%, 6 months at 9.6%, starting in October, 6 months at that 50% rate starting next April, then 6 months later their rate will change to the new rate that was set in May. The April buyers get the same rates for the same 6 month increments as the late buyers, just with 6 months of 7.12% locked in to start. So when (not if) inflation ever goes back to 0, the April buyers will have had an extra month of interest at the beginning of their bond, and have an extra 5 months of the last good interest rate.
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