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expiredLibertarian posted Apr 29, 2022 2:05 AM

US Treasury Series I Savings Bonds Inflation Rate Earnings (May - October '22)

9.62% Interest (Annualized for 6 Months)

(Limit $10K/Year Per Person)
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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

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  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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Written by Libertarian
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U.S. Government Treasury is currently offering 9.62% Interest Rate (Annualized for 6 Months) in combined Fixed + Inflation Rate Earnings valid on newly issued Series I Savings Bonds purchased from May through October 2022. Limit of $10,000/year per person.

Thanks to Community Member Libertarian for posting this offer.

About this offer:
  • How do I buy a Series I bond?
  • What is a Series I bond? (source)
    • "A savings bond that earns interest based on combining a fixed rate and an inflation rate."
    • You may use Series I bonds to:
      • Save in a low-risk product that helps protect your savings from inflation
      • Supplement your retirement income
      • Give as a gift
      • Pay for education
      • Click here for more information about Series I Bonds
  • What interest does a Series I bond earn? (source)
    • A combination of a fixed rate that stays the same for the life of the bond and an inflation rate that is set twice a year.
    • An I bond earns interest monthly from the first day of the month in the issue date. The interest accrues (is added to the bond) until the bond reaches 30 years or you cash the bond, whichever comes first.
    • The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal.
    • The composite rate for I bonds issued from May 2022 through October 2022 is 9.62 percent. This rate applies for the first six months you own the bond.
  • When can I cash my I bonds?
    • After they are 12 months old.
    • If you cash an I bond before it is five years old, you will lose the last three months of interest.
    • I bonds earn interest for 30 years if you don't cash the bonds before they mature.
    • If you've been affected by a disaster, special provisions may apply.

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details & discussion.

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Written by Libertarian

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May 1, 2022 11:47 AM
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Fellblade16May 1, 2022 11:47 AM
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Today is 5/1, but still showing the 7.12% figure. Perhaps it will be updated tomorrow as today is Sunday?
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May 1, 2022 1:28 PM
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av602May 1, 2022 1:28 PM
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Limiting it to $10k/person proves the system pigs aren't serious about letting their tax slaves get ahead of inflation by investing in high yield no-risk treasuries. So you were able to hedge $10k. Big whoop. Am I supposed to be rubbing my hands together for a $700 payout in a year? Please. Interest rates on the market should be at least 8% already, but the FED proves they aren't serious either with their impotent 25bps rate hike they kvetched for months about giving.

This is theatre, throwing crumbs to the indentured servants. If this was a serious thing that helped the people, we'd be allowed to dump our entire retirement accounts and savings into these bonds. But nope. Meanwhile, the nation's wealth is being handed out like candy to every country in the world, borrowed from the people's grandchildren who aren't even alive yet. Sad!

Sorry for the rant. YMMV.
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KnightshadeMay 1, 2022 1:33 PM
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Quote from av602 :
Limiting it to $10k/person proves the system pigs aren't serious about letting their tax slaves get ahead of inflation by investing in high yield no-risk treasuries
Since you have to pay tax on the gains, you're already not staying ahead of inflation with these.

You're just losing money slower than if you'd left it in a bank account.


If you want to get ahead you need to put the $ someplace it earns more than inflation after taxes- which ain't this.


Strategies for doing that over both longer and shorter term timeframes at exceedingly low risk exist, but a few people get super mad anytime they're mentioned in any detail in the bond threads so I'll let folks explore the search function to find em.
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mndealmakerMay 1, 2022 2:32 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
If you want to get ahead you need to put the $ someplace it earns more than inflation after taxes- which ain't this.
That's not possible at the same risk level as I Bonds.
May 1, 2022 2:54 PM
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Hess_adventuresMay 1, 2022 2:54 PM
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Quote from Scoreracing :
Curious who is buying these though. I mean obviously if you had a ton of $ parked on sidelines in savings or something. Probably high earners here, not "middle class".

Are people here maxing out their IRAs for them and spouse, kids tuition, 401k/403b $20.5k and covering their mo they expenses with 6-12mo emergency saved, and are like huh, I've got cash piling up here and don't need to spend it on projects around the house, etc., I should put it in I bonds for 12 months?

I would guess after doing those things then probably a household income upwards of $155k could accomplish this assuming no large existing assets exist.

I could see younger kids who recently sold a home at housing market highs and then moving in with parents have a ton of cash to park somewhere.

Anyways, just interesting.
Yeah many of us max out 401k's and have money laying around.... I guess it can seem strange to see us here since this site really caters to the consumerist type that buys useless stuff just cause it's on sale.
May 1, 2022 3:13 PM
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SnaH3577May 1, 2022 3:13 PM
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Quote from Scoreracing :
Curious who is buying these though. I mean obviously if you had a ton of $ parked on sidelines in savings or something. Probably high earners here, not "middle class".

Are people here maxing out their IRAs for them and spouse, kids tuition, 401k/403b $20.5k and covering their mo they expenses with 6-12mo emergency saved, and are like huh, I've got cash piling up here and don't need to spend it on projects around the house, etc., I should put it in I bonds for 12 months?

I would guess after doing those things then probably a household income upwards of $155k could accomplish this assuming no large existing assets exist.

I could see younger kids who recently sold a home at housing market highs and then moving in with parents have a ton of cash to park somewhere.

Anyways, just interesting.
You don't have to buy max $10k. You can buy whatever amount you're comfortable with. There are different ways to look at this:
1. This can be portions of your emergency fund. Maybe 50% or 25%
2. This can be a short term force saving like a CD. So you won't be able to impulse spending the money.
3. You can ladder. Buy a smaller amount each month.
4. I also look at this as part of my core bond portfolio long term. Compares to others bond fund, this is pretty attractive.
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iahawks550May 1, 2022 3:18 PM
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My biggest issue is how long to play the gift game with the spouse. Buying in April means no cashout until Aug 23.

Buying 10k gifts for each of us pushes that to 2024.

Another round pushes it to 2025.

That's quite a bit of time to tie up the money if inflation is "fixed"

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talkbackfreebieMay 1, 2022 3:22 PM
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Quote from av602 :
Limiting it to $10k/person proves the system pigs aren't serious about letting their tax slaves get ahead of inflation by investing in high yield no-risk treasuries. So you were able to hedge $10k. Big whoop. Am I supposed to be rubbing my hands together for a $700 payout in a year? Please. Interest rates on the market should be at least 8% already, but the FED proves they aren't serious either with their impotent 25bps rate hike they kvetched for months about giving.

This is theatre, throwing crumbs to the indentured servants. If this was a serious thing that helped the people, we'd be allowed to dump our entire retirement accounts and savings into these bonds. But nope. Meanwhile, the nation's wealth is being handed out like candy to every country in the world, borrowed from the people's grandchildren who aren't even alive yet. Sad!

Sorry for the rant. YMMV.
"Limiting it to $10k/person proves the system pigs aren't serious about letting their tax slaves get ahead " When I see comments where the poster has resorted to name calling, it sends up a red flag for me. As far as I'm concerned it is the opinion of someone who wants what his neighbor has because it is "only fair and just". News flash: There is no concept. There will ALWAYS be people who have more than you and people who will have LESS. It is just the way life works.
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iahawks550May 1, 2022 3:25 PM
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Quote from talkbackfreebie :
"Limiting it to $10k/person proves the system pigs aren't serious about letting their tax slaves get ahead " When I see comments where the poster has resorted to name calling, it sends up a red flag for me. As far as I'm concerned it is the opinion of someone who wants what his neighbor has because it is "only fair and just". News flash: There is no concept. There will ALWAYS be people who have more than you and people who will have LESS. It is just the way life works.
I didn't read it that way at all. The government wants the citizens to save money, but then restricts vessels such as this. It makes no sense.

Have a limit of 100k, to allow people to actually take advantage of it.
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keungMay 1, 2022 3:39 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Strategies for doing that over both longer and shorter term timeframes at exceedingly low risk exist, but a few people get super mad anytime they're mentioned in any detail in the bond threads so I'll let folks explore the search function to find em.
If you have such a good idea,
why don't you just start a new thread and explain the idea?
Why you need to piggy back on the bond thread to get attention likes leeches Confused
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keungMay 1, 2022 3:45 PM
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Quote from iahawks550 :
I didn't read it that way at all. The government wants the citizens to save money, but then restricts vessels such as this. It makes no sense.

Have a limit of 100k, to allow people to actually take advantage of it.
They don't want the rich to abuse the system.
Let remind ourself the median household income of USA is $67521 USD in 2020
You have more than 10K stash away you are considered rich
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iahawks550May 1, 2022 3:50 PM
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Quote from keung :
They don't want the rich to abuse the system.
Let remind ourself the median household income of USA is $67521 USD in 2020
You have more than 10K stash away you are considered rich
Lol. I'm well off, but with two working people in the family and being middle-aged, having 10k stashed away for retirement is not rich. Having 100k stashed isn't either.
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acegolferMay 1, 2022 3:57 PM
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Quote from iahawks550 :
My biggest issue is how long to play the gift game with the spouse. Buying in April means no cashout until Aug 23.

Buying 10k gifts for each of us pushes that to 2024.

Another round pushes it to 2025.

That's quite a bit of time to tie up the money if inflation is "fixed"
You purchase now as gift. You deliver in 1/2023. You can redeem on 5/1/2023 (not 8/2023).

Quote from iahawks550 :
I didn't read it that way at all. The government wants the citizens to save money, but then restricts vessels such as this. It makes no sense.

Have a limit of 100k, to allow people to actually take advantage of it.
This is essentially a government subsidy to encourage average Americans to save. Of course, it doesn't want an unlimited subsidy and put a limit.
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OneSlickDealMay 1, 2022 3:59 PM
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Quote from iahawks550 :
Lol. I'm well off, but with two working people in the family and being middle-aged, having 10k stashed away for retirement is not rich. Having 100k stashed isn't either.
Having $1M isn't either. Not even enough to retire early if you have a mortgage
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iahawks550May 1, 2022 4:10 PM
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Quote from acegolfer :
You purchase now as gift. You deliver in 1/2023. You can redeem on 5/1/2023 (not 8/2023).
If we redeem the ones we purchased for ourselves (10k each) in 2023, we have to wait until 2024 to redeem the gifts, correct? I worded my scenario poorly.

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