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Minisforum X400-4350G AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350G 16GB RAM+256GB SSD AR $449

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Use the discount code from the top of the product site to get a $50 discount on the X400 Mini PC:
Limited time discount 50 USD Code: KWK8Y8E1548Z


AMD Ryzen™ 3 Pro 4350G 4 Corers, 8 Threads 3.8GHz / 4GHz boost
Radeon™ Graphics (Frequency 1700 MHz)
Silent Fan & Unlock TDP 25W/35W
Windows 10 pro & Wifi 6 pre-installed
DDR4 16GB Dual channel (SODIMM Slots×2)
Large Capacity & Upgrade-friendly
Support 2 monitors at the same time streaming in 4K@60Hz
256GB SSD (PCIe)
2.5 inch SATA HDD
M.2 2242 SATA SSD (up to 2TB , SATA 3.0 6.0Gb/s)

It comes with the following ports:

1 * Kensington Lock
1 * DC 19V/4.73A (PSU included)
1 * HDMI Port
1 * Display Port
2 * RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet
2 * USB 3.1 Gen2
1 * MicroSD Card Slot
1 * Line In
1 * Mic In
1 * Headphone Out
1 * Digital Mic
1 * Reset Hole
1 * Power Button


https://store.minisforum.com/prod...5853127841
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Use the discount code from the top of the product site to get a $50 discount on the X400 Mini PC:
Limited time discount 50 USD Code: KWK8Y8E1548Z


AMD Ryzen™ 3 Pro 4350G 4 Corers, 8 Threads 3.8GHz / 4GHz boost
Radeon™ Graphics (Frequency 1700 MHz)
Silent Fan & Unlock TDP 25W/35W
Windows 10 pro & Wifi 6 pre-installed
DDR4 16GB Dual channel (SODIMM Slots×2)
Large Capacity & Upgrade-friendly
Support 2 monitors at the same time streaming in 4K@60Hz
256GB SSD (PCIe)
2.5 inch SATA HDD
M.2 2242 SATA SSD (up to 2TB , SATA 3.0 6.0Gb/s)

It comes with the following ports:

1 * Kensington Lock
1 * DC 19V/4.73A (PSU included)
1 * HDMI Port
1 * Display Port
2 * RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet
2 * USB 3.1 Gen2
1 * MicroSD Card Slot
1 * Line In
1 * Mic In
1 * Headphone Out
1 * Digital Mic
1 * Reset Hole
1 * Power Button


https://store.minisforum.com/prod...5853127841

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May 5, 2022 5:02 AM
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reqUser098May 5, 2022 5:02 AM
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same price for a laptop with similar spce, i don't think this is attractive
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May 5, 2022 5:17 AM
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hg4399May 5, 2022 5:17 AM
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Not a great value. Just A little more can get you the HM90 with 4900H and better graphics. Unfortunately, this unit's pre-included 16GB of ram is trash, running at 2400Mhz, which will massively slow the system down(especially for the Ryzen iGPU).
If you need some low-end HTPC, choose the UM250 with 2500U. It will do the same thing as this one does. (and will have less power consumption)
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May 5, 2022 10:26 AM
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technonoMay 5, 2022 10:26 AM
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Quote from reqUser098 View quoted comment :
same price for a laptop with similar spce, i don't think this is attractive
Where is a laptop with similar specs? I haven't seen them.


Quote from KamiCAT View quoted comment :
Not a great value. Just A little more can get you the HM90 with 4900H and better graphics. Unfortunately, this unit's pre-included 16GB of ram is trash, running at 2400Mhz, which will massively slow the system down(especially for the Ryzen iGPU).
If you need some low-end HTPC, choose the UM250 with 2500U. It will do the same thing as this one does. (and will have less power consumption)
In the FAQs it states the RAM is 3200MHz. Where you getting the RAM is running at 2400MHz?

I don't get your recommendations either, the HM90 is $200 more (half again as much), and the UM250 is only $30 less for an older, slower CPU along with slower RAM (2400MHz), along with half the storage out of the box, and it doesn't look like it comes with wifi out of the box.

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ETA:
Looked more, the HM90 on the minisforum site is $200 more, but via Walmart it's only $130 more. Better processor, twice the storage, the second ethernet is 2.5 Gb, with more USB out, but not TF slot. Probably still worth the $130... if you can take advantage of those things.
Last edited by technono May 5, 2022 at 07:13 AM.
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May 5, 2022 1:00 PM
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reqUser098May 5, 2022 1:00 PM
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Quote from technono View quoted comment :
Where is a laptop with similar specs? I haven't seen them.




In the FAQs it states the RAM is 3200MHz. Where you getting the RAM is running at 2400MHz?

I don't get your recommendations either, the HM90 is $200 more (half again as much), and the UM250 is only $30 less for an older, slower CPU along with slower RAM (2400MHz), along with half the storage out of the box, and it doesn't look like it comes with wifi out of the box.
tons, and in fact they are better spec with latest CPUs. lol
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May 5, 2022 1:03 PM
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technonoMay 5, 2022 1:03 PM
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Quote from reqUser098 View quoted comment :
tons, and in fact they are better spec with latest CPUs. lol
BS. There's not a single laptop with 16 GB RAM, 256 SSD, comparable CPU, with Win 10 Pro, etc. for $450.
May 5, 2022 1:24 PM
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reqUser098May 5, 2022 1:24 PM
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Quote from technono View quoted comment :
BS. There's not a single laptop with 16 GB RAM, 256 SSD, comparable CPU, with Win 10 Pro, etc. for $450.
https://slickdeals.net/f/15749089-gateway-ultra-slim-notebook-intel-core-i5-1135g7-14-1-fhd-ips-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-iris-xe-win-10-various-colors-399-free-shipping-walmart?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1

of course, windows pro is hard to get on laptop, but u should get my point
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May 5, 2022 1:32 PM
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technonoMay 5, 2022 1:32 PM
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Quote from reqUser098 View quoted comment :
https://slickdeals.net/f/15749089-gateway-ultra-slim-notebook-intel-core-i5-1135g7-14-1-fhd-ips-16gb...

of course, windows pro is hard to get on laptop, but u should get my point
So you consider that with "better spec with latest CPU"? lol!
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May 5, 2022 1:40 PM
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reqUser098May 5, 2022 1:40 PM
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Quote from technono View quoted comment :
So you consider that with "better spec with latest CPU"? lol!
not sure what u are trying to defend, but whatever.
CPU Mark10833 10100
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350G×Intel Core i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz+ ADDPriceSearch Online$3091
Socket TypeAM4BGA1526
CPU ClassDesktopLaptop
Clockspeed3.8 GHz2.4 GHz
Turbo SpeedUp to 4.0 GHzUp to 4.2 GHz
# of Physical Cores4 (Threads: 8)4 (Threads: 8)
Max TDP65W15W
Yearly Running Cost$11.86$2.74
First Seen on ChartQ2 2020Q2 2020
# of Samples911950
Single Thread Rating25402727
May 5, 2022 1:50 PM
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technonoMay 5, 2022 1:50 PM
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Quote from reqUser098 View quoted comment :
not sure what u are trying to defend, but whatever.
CPU Mark10833 10100
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4350G×Intel Core i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz+ ADDPriceSearch Online$3091
Socket TypeAM4BGA1526
CPU ClassDesktopLaptop
Clockspeed3.8 GHz2.4 GHz
Turbo SpeedUp to 4.0 GHzUp to 4.2 GHz
# of Physical Cores4 (Threads: 8)4 (Threads: 8)
Max TDP65W15W
Yearly Running Cost$11.86$2.74
First Seen on ChartQ2 2020Q2 2020
# of Samples911950
Single Thread Rating25402727
I'm not defending anything. I asked for a similar spec laptop originally, which I'd say this is probably close, but it's a far cry from your second comment that there are tons with better specs and latest CPU. These CPUs came out similar time, the laptop you posted does have twice the storage, a screen and touchpad. It has Win Home (as opposed to Pro), it has Wifi 5, (as opposed to 6). No ethernet, 1 HDMI (so one extra screen?). RAM is soldered (the Minisforum is replaceable up to 64GB). No extra storage. Weight is about the same (not sure if it includes power bricks), but at 4 lbs, it's not something I'd want to lug around much.

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ETA:

That laptop does look like it might be able to do a 2 screen output, but I don't know the quality (4k?), it does also have an extra SSD slot.

Anyways, the best I could say is that it's comparable in terms of specs, but as a desktop use device, I'd rather take the Minisforum one and use my 4K monitors. If I want to lug something around I'd spend more money to get something less than 4 lbs, hopefully at most 2 lbs. I definitely wouldn't use that laptop as a desktop replacement though. It's not at all better specs than this box.
Last edited by technono May 5, 2022 at 07:06 AM.
May 5, 2022 2:29 PM
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technonoMay 5, 2022 2:29 PM
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To follow up on my earlier comment about the HM90, it's $535.41 on Amazon now as a lightening deal:
https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM...09X2SDPW5/

So not even $90 more with cb with prime card.
May 5, 2022 4:57 PM
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hg4399May 5, 2022 4:57 PM
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Quote from technono View quoted comment :
Where is a laptop with similar specs? I haven't seen them.




In the FAQs it states the RAM is 3200MHz. Where you getting the RAM is running at 2400MHz?

I don't get your recommendations either, the HM90 is $200 more (half again as much), and the UM250 is only $30 less for an older, slower CPU along with slower RAM (2400MHz), along with half the storage out of the box, and it doesn't look like it comes with wifi out of the box.

---
ETA:
Looked more, the HM90 on the minisforum site is $200 more, but via Walmart it's only $130 more. Better processor, twice the storage, the second ethernet is 2.5 Gb, with more USB out, but not TF slot. Probably still worth the $130... if you can take advantage of those things.
HM90 on misinform is listed at $479 USD barebone. You can get better RAM and storage aftermarket compared to the pre-included parts.
FYI: 32GB 3200Mhz CL16 ram only for 97 USD on Amazon right now. and 1TB SSD for ~80 USD on Amazon.
My point is don't spend money on overpriced parts(especially OEM)
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May 5, 2022 5:07 PM
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hg4399May 5, 2022 5:07 PM
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Quote from technono View quoted comment :
To follow up on my earlier comment about the HM90, it's $535.41 on Amazon now as a lightening deal:
https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM...09X2SDPW5/ [amazon.com]

So not even $90 more with cb with prime card.
This will be a good price
for 90 USD more, you get a 50% better CPU 15%better GPU, and double the storage.
May 5, 2022 5:12 PM
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reronMay 5, 2022 5:12 PM
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Anyone know in the dual Ethernet configs which brand? Intel/Realtek/broadcom.

If both Intel, this would be awesome for home ESXi/proxmox homelab.
May 5, 2022 5:22 PM
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technonoMay 5, 2022 5:22 PM
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Quote from KamiCAT View quoted comment :
HM90 on misinform is listed at $479 USD barebone. You can get better RAM and storage aftermarket compared to the pre-included parts.
FYI: 32GB 3200Mhz CL16 ram only for 97 USD on Amazon right now. and 1TB SSD for ~80 USD on Amazon.
My point is don't spend money on overpriced parts(especially OEM)
Yeah, I agree, you can buy better components than just going with the OEM. The main downside (assuming whomever is adding components feels comfortable) if you go that route, you also have to buy the OS, which this comes with Win Pro, barebones doesn't come with that, so it really increases the price from $479, plus several hundred for RAM, SSD, and OS. So you're looking at $700 at best, probably $800+, which gets to be well over the original price of this box and you don't have to do much other than set it up.

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May 5, 2022 5:54 PM
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technonoMay 5, 2022 5:54 PM
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Quote from reron View quoted comment :
Anyone know in the dual Ethernet configs which brand? Intel/Realtek/broadcom.

If both Intel, this would be awesome for home ESXi/proxmox homelab.
Looking at the drivers available the LAN looks like Realtek, the Wifi is Intel.

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