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expiredCChoiVA posted May 06, 2022 07:08 AM

4TB Samsung 870 QVO Series 2.5" SATA III V-NAND Internal SSD

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Newegg has 4TB Samsung 870 QVO Series 2.5" SATA III V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (MZ-77Q4T0B/AM) on sale for $289.99 when you apply promo code SSBS625 in cart. Shipping is free.

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  • Read/write speeds of up to 560/530 MB/s
  • Samsung V-NAND 4bit MLC
  • 1.5 Million Hours Reliability (MTBF

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Newegg has 4TB Samsung 870 QVO Series 2.5" SATA III V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (MZ-77Q4T0B/AM) on sale for $289.99 when you apply promo code SSBS625 in cart. Shipping is free.

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Product Details:
  • Read/write speeds of up to 560/530 MB/s
  • Samsung V-NAND 4bit MLC
  • 1.5 Million Hours Reliability (MTBF

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  • About this deal:
    • Our research indicates that this is $70 lower (19% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting at $359.99 at the time of this posting.
    • This price is also $14 lower than the last time this SSD was a Frontpage Deal.
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    • Comes with a 3-year limited warranty.
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tgersh59
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maxman11
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These drives slow way down as soon as their cache is full. Lots of videos on this. Depending on your use case, this may be a problem.

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May 06, 2022 06:42 PM
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CompulsiveBuyerMay 06, 2022 06:42 PM
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Quote from linesplice :
Presume the cache clears once the write or read has completed? Maybe no good for loading huge game textures or something but seems like plenty for 95% of average use cases.
The cache will clear at 164 MB/s, which is the throughout of the drive's QLC. For example, if the writes to the drive stop for one second after running for a long time (cache full) and then start again, the drive will be able to absorb 164MB of more data at the SLC rate of 446 MB/s.
May 06, 2022 07:13 PM
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Chairman0WangMay 06, 2022 07:13 PM
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If you use it as a game or storage drive for write occasional stuff, I think it'll do fine. The people hating on it blindly are poorly informed imo as most consumers do not write tons of files.

Read speeds are acceptable and this price certainly is quite nice for 4tb ssd of anything. Is it gonna be the fastest ssd? No but its also sata and your looking at max, couple to tens of seconds of difference in games which isn't a bad tradeoff.

If you have non critical write workloads, samsung software will let you use a portion of RAM as cache.
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May 06, 2022 07:22 PM
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neverpayfullpriceMay 06, 2022 07:22 PM
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Just my luck, I paid $370 for one of these 6 weeks ago. Great drive for games.
May 06, 2022 07:26 PM
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Damien1772May 06, 2022 07:26 PM
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Quote from linesplice :
Presume the cache clears once the write or read has completed? Maybe no good for loading huge game textures or something but seems like plenty for 95% of average use cases.
the reads will not slow down its more so if you write alot of data where you will face issues. for this price its a pretty good game drive tbh
May 06, 2022 07:33 PM
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jenesuispasbavaMay 06, 2022 07:33 PM
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Quote from Chairman0Wang :
If you use it as a game or storage drive for write occasional stuff, I think it'll do fine. The people hating on it blindly are poorly informed imo as most consumers do not write tons of files.

Read speeds are acceptable and this price certainly is quite nice for 4tb ssd of anything. Is it gonna be the fastest ssd? No but its also sata and your looking at max, couple to tens of seconds of difference in games which isn't a bad tradeoff.

If you have non critical write workloads, samsung software will let you use a portion of RAM as cache.
Any idea if the Samsung software will let you use RAM as cache even if you set these two drives up in RAID 0?

I have 64GB of RAM and am thinking of replacing one 8TB 3.5" drive with two of these QVO 4TBs in RAID 0.
May 06, 2022 07:48 PM
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CompulsiveBuyerMay 06, 2022 07:48 PM
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Quote from jenesuispasbava :
Any idea if the Samsung software will let you use RAM as cache even if you set these two drives up in RAID 0?

I have 64GB of RAM and am thinking of replacing one 8TB 3.5" drive with two of these QVO 4TBs in RAID 0.
You can leave that to the operating system - it will automatically use free memory for disk cache.
May 06, 2022 08:03 PM
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zephyrprimeMay 06, 2022 08:03 PM
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Quote from jenesuispasbava :
Any idea if the Samsung software will let you use RAM as cache even if you set these two drives up in RAID 0?

I have 64GB of RAM and am thinking of replacing one 8TB 3.5" drive with two of these QVO 4TBs in RAID 0.
Dude, if you really want speed and size, you might want to pass on this. Get a U.2 drive or a raid card for nvme. That stuff costs $$$ though.
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May 06, 2022 08:04 PM
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zephyrprimeMay 06, 2022 08:04 PM
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Quote from CompulsiveBuyer :
You can leave that to the operating system - it will automatically use free memory for disk cache.
Windows non-server editions limit how much write cache is allocated for data safety reasons.
May 06, 2022 08:05 PM
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jenesuispasbavaMay 06, 2022 08:05 PM
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Quote from zephyrprime :
Dude, if you really want speed and size, you might want to pass on this. Get a U.2 drive or a raid card for nvme. That stuff costs $$$ though.
Yeah this is $600 for 8TB - I'm going to get nowhere near that with NVMe. Also an ITX setup so I have no more PCIe slots or NVMe slots.
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May 06, 2022 08:08 PM
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jenesuispasbavaMay 06, 2022 08:08 PM
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Quote from CompulsiveBuyer :
You can leave that to the operating system - it will automatically use free memory for disk cache.
This is simply incorrect. Samsung's Rapid mode allocates a lot more RAM as disk cache than Windows does automatically. All I'm wondering is if Rapid mode works if the QVO drives are in RAID 0.
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MegaweaponMay 06, 2022 08:11 PM
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Quote from deathbyfire :
Is there even any other good alternative for a 4TB SSD in the market? (No NVME)
I have a WD Blue 4TB TLC drive (Model WDS400T2B0A) that seems fine.
May 06, 2022 08:24 PM
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CompulsiveBuyerMay 06, 2022 08:24 PM
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Quote from zephyrprime :
Windows non-server editions limit how much write cache is allocated for data safety reasons.
Quote from jenesuispasbava :
This is simply incorrect. Samsung's Rapid mode allocates a lot more RAM as disk cache than Windows does automatically. All I'm wondering is if Rapid mode works if the QVO drives are in RAID 0.
Samsung's Rapid Cache will use the lower of 25% of system memory or 1GB (source [pugetsystems.com]). If you want to use more than the 1GB Samsung limit and the 10% non-server Windows provides (which would be ~6GB in your case) then try PrimoCache [romexsoftware.com] - free trial and $30 to buy.
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May 06, 2022 09:10 PM
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Keats852May 06, 2022 09:10 PM
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Quote from maxman11 :
These drives slow way down as soon as their cache is full. Lots of videos on this. Depending on your use case, this may be a problem.
I have this with one of my 2TB NVMe drives. Yea it's blazingly fast for the first 500MB butr then it slows down to like 25Mbyte/s for the rest. This is a major problem when you're trying to copy a TB.
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RIP, sold out.

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deathbyfireMay 07, 2022 07:00 AM
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Quote from Frank_Nitty :
SSDs are volatile enough as it is.
At this point don't feel they're any more so than normal platters. Whether the performance/speeds are up to par is a different question, but not reliability.

Quote from Megaweapon :
I have a WD Blue 4TB TLC drive (Model WDS400T2B0A) that seems fine.
Haven't seen that one, so guess will keep an eye for it on sale nod
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