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Hello, I have around 40K in my bank account that I would like to invest in the market instead of collecting 0.000001% that my bank pays me. I am contributing fully towards my 401K, HSA accounts...etc. I also have enough savings in emergency funds apart from this 40K.

I would like to be able to invest this 40K in and would like to contribute about 1K every month on an on-going basis. I am looking for something conservative (about 5% growth if possible) and will not need the funds in the near future (atleast for next 5 years if not more).

Lastly, I do have accounts with Vanguard (my Roth, that I had opened in the past) and TD Ameritrade where I used to do stocks (but lost a bit and not interested in individual stock investments anymore).

I honestly, do not know where to begin. Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome on what kind of account I need to open any and how to give about investing in one.

Thanks in advance for your guidance!
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05-24-2022 at 05:34 AM.
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I would suggest reading "The Simple Path to Wealth" if you haven't already.
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05-25-2022 at 05:29 PM.
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Quote from slicbrat :
Hello, I have around 40K in my bank account that I would like to invest in the market instead of collecting 0.000001% that my bank pays me. I am contributing fully towards my 401K, HSA accounts...etc. I also have enough savings in emergency funds apart from this 40K.

I would like to be able to invest this 40K in and would like to contribute about 1K every month on an on-going basis. I am looking for something conservative (about 5% growth if possible) and will not need the funds in the near future (atleast for next 5 years if not more).

Lastly, I do have accounts with Vanguard (my Roth, that I had opened in the past) and TD Ameritrade where I used to do stocks (but lost a bit and not interested in individual stock investments anymore).

I honestly, do not know where to begin. Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome on what kind of account I need to open any and how to give about investing in one.

Thanks in advance for your guidance!
Do you think it will be fun to spend time researching stocks and trying to beat the market? If not, and you said you were not, regularly invest money each month/week/every other week/etc into VOO, SPY, or something similar. You can do that in your Ameritrade account, and you can buy VOO for your Roth account in Vanguard.

In the future, if you think you'd be interested in trying to beat the market, I suggest reading A Random Walk Down Wall Street, which you can find a pdf of online.
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05-26-2022 at 09:10 AM.
05-26-2022 at 09:10 AM.
Quote from slicbrat :
Hello, I have around 40K in my bank account that I would like to invest in the market instead of collecting 0.000001% that my bank pays me. I am contributing fully towards my 401K, HSA accounts...etc. I also have enough savings in emergency funds apart from this 40K.

I would like to be able to invest this 40K in and would like to contribute about 1K every month on an on-going basis. I am looking for something conservative (about 5% growth if possible) and will not need the funds in the near future (atleast for next 5 years if not more).

Lastly, I do have accounts with Vanguard (my Roth, that I had opened in the past) and TD Ameritrade where I used to do stocks (but lost a bit and not interested in individual stock investments anymore).

I honestly, do not know where to begin. Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome on what kind of account I need to open any and how to give about investing in one.

Thanks in advance for your guidance!
Elon Musk himself actually gave some very good advice recently:

"Buy stock in several companies that make products & services that *you* believe in.

Only sell if you think their products & services are trending worse. Don't panic when the market does.

This will serve you well in the long-term."

^his words exactly.

Don't let losing money in the past discourage you. We've all been there - even me, briefly.
Thumbs up for this thread and rep points for you, if it lets me.
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Quote from GandalfNYC :
IElon Musk himself actually gave some very good advice recently:

"Buy stock in several companies that make products & services that *you* believe in.

Only sell if you think their products & services are trending worse. Don't panic when the market does.

This will serve you well in the long-term."
That's actually not great advice, and it's certainly not how Musk got wealthy. This is long but worth a listen (or read the transcript): https://rationalreminder.ca/podcast/174
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Quote from ilovetofu :
That's actually not great advice, and it's certainly not how Musk got wealthy. This is long but worth a listen (or read the transcript): https://rationalreminder.ca/podcast/174
No, it actually IS great advice, especially if read yesterday. It's input from someone who actually made a lot of money, unlike all the BS out there including whatever you just posted. Musk got 1.1 million likes for the tweet. Here it is again:

"Buy stock in several companies that make products & services that *you* believe in.

Only sell if you think their products & services are trending worse. Don't panic when the market does.

This will serve you well in the long-term."

^Elon Musk's words exactly.

Post the transcript here if you wish. I'm not going to click on your link, mr/ms suspect username likely buddy of the wrong one. laugh out loud
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05-26-2022 at 02:25 PM.
05-26-2022 at 02:25 PM.
Everyone should read, in this order:

1) Reminiscences of a Stock Operator - by LeFevre, about Jesse Livermore
2) How to Trade in Stocks - by Jesse Livermore
3) Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds - C. MacKay

Thank me later! nod
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05-26-2022 at 02:32 PM.
05-26-2022 at 02:32 PM.
Now why do I suddenly feel like a maple syrup coated baconator?

laugh out loudLMAOlaugh out loudLMAO

I'd never eat that. Smilie
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Quote from ilovetofu :
I would suggest reading "The Simple Path to Wealth" if you haven't already.
The Simple Path to Wealth.
Foreword by Mr. Money Mustache

HAHAHAHAHA you can't make this stuff up!!!!! laugh out loudLMAO What a joke.

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"In 2008 I was taking a finance class in college watching the market burn to the ground. After graduating in 2009, I saw Comcast and Starbucks stock selling for crazy low prices from where it had been in 2007 and wondered why these stocks were getting hammered for a real estate and bank crisis, so I bought with the intent to hold. And I made money. I realize now it was riskier then I knew at the time because I didn't do my due diligence in research on these companies, but for this book to claim the market can't be beaten is completely false. I held on to these companies for years and smoked the market. To make a blanket statement that no one except Buffett and a few others near the top can do it is very misleading."
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Likes on a social media app does not mean anything lol, and neither do random amazon reviews. It's common knowledge by now that active stock picking rarely beats passive investing over the long run. Good luck if that's your strategy.
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Quote from ilovetofu :
That's actually not great advice, and it's certainly not how Musk got wealthy. This is long but worth a listen (or read the transcript): https://rationalreminder.ca/podcast/174
To be fair, not selling in a panic is indeed good advice Smilie
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slicbrat
06-03-2022 at 04:58 AM.
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Thanks all for your suggestions. I will read those books and also listen to the podcast.

One more thing I have been thinking for a while is being a Angel investor in a start up of some kind. I would like to explore that a little bit more and wondering if any of you have had any experiences. How do you find those start ups (preferably local), are there sites or groups where these things are discussed / start ups pitch (maybe shark tank style Smilie)
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06-11-2022 at 11:01 PM.
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ibonds are the safest thing right now if you have less than 10k to invest per social security number
if like most in USA most have less than 10k

then you are a peasant so just take the 10k and dump into IBONDS.
if you actually have any wealth then you need to dump some into IBONDS and other assets and actually try to make more than inflation.

look up ray dalio all weather portfolio
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06-13-2022 at 02:22 PM.
06-13-2022 at 02:22 PM.
It is hard to invest on a down market. Right now I flip between the S&P 500 and money market with my retirement funds.
So my money has been out for a while now and I put it back in today. If the market goes up tomorrow I think I may pull it and wait for another down day to invest it. I call this... chasing the dead cat bound on the S&P 500 index.

I also like DNP, it pays a dividend that you can reinvest. And pays like 7% ROI in dividends.

I also like companies that have been hit REALLY HARD, like Carnival under $10, AMD under $85, Paypal under $78, Etsy, etc...

But my rule of thumb is you invest in the S&P 500 until you have at least $250k and then you can through $10 - $20 into stocks you want. And Crammer says you should have 10% in Crypto which has also been hit really hard.
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