LiFePO4 Portable Power Station 537.6Wh, Recharge 0-80% Within 2Hrs, Cellpowa500 Solar Generator with MPPT, USB-C for Camping, RV $329.99

ilovebeermoney

Jun 9, 2022 4:58 PM

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ilovebeermoneyJun 9, 2022 4:58 PM

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This won't power your fridge.

I have a golabs 500 watt all in one "solar generator" with a surge of up to 1000 watts and it won't power even a small fridge that when running consumes only 80 watts. The surge is just too high.

So I bought a 100ah 12v lifepo4 battery and then a 1000 watt inverter with 2000 watt surge and it still would not power the small fridge either, nor would it power a very small window air conditioner. So I got a 2000 watt inverter with a 4000 watt surge. It's able to power either device or even both at the same time.

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coachclass

Jun 9, 2022 5:02 PM

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coachclassJun 9, 2022 5:02 PM

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Quote from stingygrrl

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I need something to run a dehumidifier in FL if we lose power for several days in a storm (hurricane). I don't care about the fridge, I just want to avoid mold. I bought the ecoflow from costco for $950. Wondering if this can do the same job. I can recharge it at neighbors who have whole house generators. Edit, I do not want a gas powered one

Oof, dehumidifiers are rough to run. My basement dehumidifier has an inrush of almost 1kW, needs continuous duty of 500W, and over 24 hours, uses about 5kWh (so over 200W on average).

This particular unit can just barely keep up with the continuous run power. And even if it keeps up, it runs for less than 3 hours.

stingygrrl

Jun 9, 2022 5:11 PM

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stingygrrlJun 9, 2022 5:11 PM

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Quote from coachclass

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Oof, dehumidifiers are rough to run. My basement dehumidifier has an inrush of almost 1kW, needs continuous duty of 500W, and over 24 hours, uses about 5kWh (so over 200W on average).

This particular unit can just barely keep up with the continuous run power. And even if it keeps up, it runs for less than 3 hours.

the ecoflow unit I bought has 3300W surge. and the dehumidifier is 850w, 8amps, and 1.95 Energy Factor (L/kWh). I think we should be able to use it.

newell74

Jun 9, 2022 5:25 PM

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newell74Jun 9, 2022 5:25 PM

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I recently bought the EcoRiver Pro (and extra battery) from Costco and agree that it is a good unit for the price but this seems like a great deal for a unit that uses LiFePO4 batteries.

Saboth

Jun 9, 2022 6:13 PM

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SabothJun 9, 2022 6:13 PM

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Quote from mannyi

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look into the Ford Lightning pickup.

I'm hoping all electric cars in the future start offering the ability to run your house for a few days without power. Talk about a selling point! Imagine not having to worry about gas or lugging out the generator when the power goes out. Your car just flips into generator mode. One of those giant Tesla home batteries costs like 10K, so if your car can do the same job, that's awesome.

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PeteyTheStriker

Jun 9, 2022 6:57 PM

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PeteyTheStrikerJun 9, 2022 6:57 PM

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Quote from stingygrrl

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I need something to run a dehumidifier in FL if we lose power for several days in a storm (hurricane). I don't care about the fridge, I just want to avoid mold. I bought the ecoflow from costco for $950. Wondering if this can do the same job. I can recharge it at neighbors who have whole house generators. Edit, I do not want a gas powered one

This is not a huge station by any means when it comes to home appliance type items with only 537.6Wh so depending on your dehumidifier wattage you might have to be running to the neighbors a lot. On the low end most dehumidifiers if I did my math correctly are about 300Wh per hour, average ones up to 700Wh, so this station might last you a little over a hour or not even a full hour depending on your dehumidifiers the largest units I seen can draw up to 1200Wh so this would not last long.

PeteyTheStriker

Jun 9, 2022 7:02 PM

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PeteyTheStrikerJun 9, 2022 7:02 PM

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Quote from Saboth

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I'm hoping all electric cars in the future start offering the ability to run your house for a few days without power. Talk about a selling point! Imagine not having to worry about gas or lugging out the generator when the power goes out. Your car just flips into generator mode. One of those giant Tesla home batteries costs like 10K, so if your car can do the same job, that's awesome.

Yes it is pretty impressive, you do need their charging station wired into your home to be able to do this which it comes standard on the extended versions. Probably why the truck is currently unattainable till 2023 late since all orders on them have been stopped by Ford due to demand.

NervousLake876

Jun 9, 2022 8:01 PM

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NervousLake876Jun 9, 2022 8:01 PM

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I have one of these. No, it has very little prayer of powering a full sized fridge with freezer.

My use case is a little different. I have it in case we get a tropical storm or minor hurricane roll through. I have a 7.0 cu ft freezer that this should be able to power for a while. Knowing a storm may be coming, I would put roughly a 24 pack of water bottles in it (over time, not all at once) to freeze. Then when I lose power, quickly remove maybe 18 of the water bottles and put them on the top shelf of the fridge. Then shut the door and don't open it for as long as possible. Move what will fit from the top freezer to the freezer. Then plug the freezer in. Should keep the freezer going at least 7-8 hours, or more. Once spent and the storm is through, I can use the multi-adapter charging to get some more charge on it through my vehicle.

The hope it to do enough to get by about 3 days - fingers crossed. I'd lose the top freezer's stuff not transferred but that's better than losing it all.

Last edited by NervousLake876 June 9, 2022 at 01:03 PM.

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Loverise

Jun 9, 2022 10:55 PM

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LoveriseJun 9, 2022 10:55 PM

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Quote from idiggplants

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do you have a suggestion for a good resource on what "features" to look for in these. aka... i have no idea what pass through charging is, and i wouldnt have realized it was important till i saw this comment. id like to make sure i dont make that mistake in the future. im considering buying one of these for our car camping setup, and to have on hand at our offgrid solar cabin as a bit of an added power source on top of the 120ah solar setup we have there.

i was also thinking of doing a diy setup as all i really need is a battery, a 12v outlet, and a way to charge it when we are using the truck. the inverter, built in MPPT charger, etc isnt really necessary.

Everything I've learned is from youtube videos. Check out will prouse, hobotech to begin your journey down the rabbit hole of deciding what solar power station to get. For my rv I bought a bluetti eb 150 which is a solid unit. I am now looking for something lighter that I can use my 3 qt instant pot on if there is a power outage which after testing today on my bluetti draws 604 watts when actually going to pressure and much less after reaching pressure. So if this unit were 600 watts for the price point I would have tried it despite not having ac pass through charging since it does provide dc pass through which means as you recharge the power station the ability to use ac or dc items at the same time. Depending on your needs you may or may not need it. Yet in case of a power outage it would be extremely helpful to have it.

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Loverise

Jun 9, 2022 11:03 PM

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LoveriseJun 9, 2022 11:03 PM

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Quote from newell74

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I recently bought the EcoRiver Pro (and extra battery) from Costco and agree that it is a good unit for the price but this seems like a great deal for a unit that uses LiFePO4 batteries.

If it had been 600 watts, even without pass thru ac charging, I would have tried it yet my 3 qt instant pot and my electric hot pot both require at least 600 watts so I am still debating the ecoflow river pro despite it's less than stellar actual watt hours available betweens 70 -75% from what I've seen from the reviews. Or the bluetti 70s would do the trick also.

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nolie

Jun 10, 2022 1:11 AM

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nolieJun 10, 2022 1:11 AM

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Bluetti and Jackery make terrific units with pass-thru charging. I have a Bluetti AC200P and a Jackery Explorer 300 and use both often. The AC200P can accept input from 6 180W solar panels and power and air conditioner and a BougeRV refrigerator in my glamping tent. With pass thru, it does this in the daytime and still manages to charge the battery fully. When the sun goes down, I have plenty of power. The Jackery is a great smaller unit for smaller jobs. If you are at all interested in solar charging, you will want the pass thru feature. I would recommend spending the extra bucks. I agree with others--check out Hobotech on YouTube for some great knowledge & reviews.

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gridStorm

Jun 10, 2022 2:47 AM

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gridStormJun 10, 2022 2:47 AM

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Quote from Loverise

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Everything I've learned is from youtube videos.

Modern times.

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trkndude299

Jun 10, 2022 3:31 AM

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trkndude299Jun 10, 2022 3:31 AM

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Quote from NervousLake876

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I have one of these. No, it has very little prayer of powering a full sized fridge with freezer.

My use case is a little different. I have it in case we get a tropical storm or minor hurricane roll through. I have a 7.0 cu ft freezer that this should be able to power for a while. Knowing a storm may be coming, I would put roughly a 24 pack of water bottles in it (over time, not all at once) to freeze. Then when I lose power, quickly remove maybe 18 of the water bottles and put them on the top shelf of the fridge. Then shut the door and don't open it for as long as possible. Move what will fit from the top freezer to the freezer. Then plug the freezer in. Should keep the freezer going at least 7-8 hours, or more. Once spent and the storm is through, I can use the multi-adapter charging to get some more charge on it through my vehicle.

The hope it to do enough to get by about 3 days - fingers crossed. I'd lose the top freezer's stuff not transferred but that's better than losing it all.

I would use a handful of those gel packs for aches and pains, etc. in your use case scenario. In my experience they outlast frozen water bottles by hours if not half a day?
In a pinch, use frozen gallon water jugs if you have the space. They will last much longer than the 500l bottles.

Given your use case scenario, why not just get a Eco Flow, Bluetti, etc. A couple of solar panels and use both appliances? Just be sure to get a solar generator that will charge at 80 to 100w.
And, in extended storms and such, getting gas is near impossible. Even propane becomes iffy.

trkndude299

Jun 10, 2022 3:46 AM

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trkndude299Jun 10, 2022 3:46 AM

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Quote from idiggplants

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do you have a suggestion for a good resource on what "features" to look for in these. aka... i have no idea what pass through charging is, and i wouldnt have realized it was important till i saw this comment. id like to make sure i dont make that mistake in the future. im considering buying one of these for our car camping setup, and to have on hand at our offgrid solar cabin as a bit of an added power source on top of the 120ah solar setup we have there.

i was also thinking of doing a diy setup as all i really need is a battery, a 12v outlet, and a way to charge it when we are using the truck. the inverter, built in MPPT charger, etc isnt really necessary.

Not sure if I get the full gist of your comment, but if all you need is something while the truck is running, I'd get a pure sine wave inverter with a 12v plug, and connect the posted device with a USB C connection. Or, I'd simply put in a 2nd battery in the truck and charge it the usual way.
I use a 300w inverter to charge my solar generator since I'm driving 4 to 8 hours a day anyway. (USB C connector, not the 12v plug)
Shut the truck off, turn on the generator, and I can power 12v fans, charge all my devices, (4)
and have plenty of battery left 8 hours later.
This is the same setup that a lot of people use to power a cpap and 12v (dc) refrigerators.

Plutomania

Jun 10, 2022 5:51 AM

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PlutomaniaJun 10, 2022 5:51 AM

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Quote from rafaelg

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I think your overestimating the need for more than 800 charge cycles on something as small as the ecoflow pro. 800 cycles is over 8 years if you go camping every weekend and charge twice that weekend. Most people aren't using a 700whr system for daily charge discharge function. More likely than not its a novelty that most people keep in their storage and use it 5 times a year. Yes there is that 1 or 2 person use case who use it everyday but they already know to go buy a different system if thats the case

Isn't LiFePO4 supposed to be more chemically stable and have a longer shelf life? I've had Li-ion batteries die on me with less than 200 cycles. I believe they still age chemically even if they sit in storage.

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