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forum thread Posted by wsm • Jun 16, 2022
forum thread Posted by wsm • Jun 16, 2022

Kobalt 299 piece Mechanics Set $99 at Lowes

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Lowes has the Kobalt 299-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Combination Polished Chrome Mechanics Tool Set (1/4-in; 3/8-in; 1/2-in for $99.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2...5012928097

This new 299-piece mechanic's tool set includes 134 commonly used 6- and 12-point shallow and deep sockets, 3 PRO90 ratchets, 2 extensions, 6 short combination wrenches with 15 degree offset, 50 hex keys, 2 drive handles and 102 nut driver/insert bits

Pro90 ratchet with 90-tooth gear delivers a 4 degree precision swing that offers improved mobility in tight work spaces

This set includes 1/4-in, 3/8-in and 1/2-in drive sockets, ratchets and other accessories

Other tools include a magnetic bit driver, spinner handle, 12-piece nut driver set and 90-piece insert bit set to simplify any task

Sockets, ratchets and wrenches are constructed from chrome vanadium steel and heat treated for strength and durability with a professional grade, high-polish finish

Metric and SAE socket sizes are easy to identify with laser etched size call-outs and color-coded stripes to identify metric (blue) and SAE (red) measurements

Set is placed in an extra-large case for easy storage and transportation which measures 14.76H x 22.05W x 4.22D and weighs 22.82 pounds

Meets or exceeds ASME specifications

Tools are protected by our hassle-free lifetime guarantee

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2...t_mech_set
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Lowes has the Kobalt 299-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Combination Polished Chrome Mechanics Tool Set (1/4-in; 3/8-in; 1/2-in for $99.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2...5012928097

This new 299-piece mechanic's tool set includes 134 commonly used 6- and 12-point shallow and deep sockets, 3 PRO90 ratchets, 2 extensions, 6 short combination wrenches with 15 degree offset, 50 hex keys, 2 drive handles and 102 nut driver/insert bits

Pro90 ratchet with 90-tooth gear delivers a 4 degree precision swing that offers improved mobility in tight work spaces

This set includes 1/4-in, 3/8-in and 1/2-in drive sockets, ratchets and other accessories

Other tools include a magnetic bit driver, spinner handle, 12-piece nut driver set and 90-piece insert bit set to simplify any task

Sockets, ratchets and wrenches are constructed from chrome vanadium steel and heat treated for strength and durability with a professional grade, high-polish finish

Metric and SAE socket sizes are easy to identify with laser etched size call-outs and color-coded stripes to identify metric (blue) and SAE (red) measurements

Set is placed in an extra-large case for easy storage and transportation which measures 14.76H x 22.05W x 4.22D and weighs 22.82 pounds

Meets or exceeds ASME specifications

Tools are protected by our hassle-free lifetime guarantee

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2...t_mech_set

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These companies need to relax with the inflated stats like "over $600 value" and "299 piece set" when most of the pieces are bits and hex keys.

It's such BS anymore that there should be a law preventing advertising like this.
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Quote from xtrabad :
These companies need to relax with the inflated stats like "over $600 value" and "299 piece set" when most of the pieces are bits and hex keys.

It's such BS anymore that there should be a law preventing advertising like this.
Which pieces would you like them to count and which pieces should they leave out?

Or maybe they should post the total piece count and then break out how many of those pieces are which type. Something like this:
"This new 299-piece mechanic's tool set includes 134 commonly used 6- and 12-point shallow and deep sockets, 3 PRO90 ratchets, 2 extensions, 6 short combination wrenches with 15 degree offset, 50 hex keys, 2 drive handles and 102 nut driver/insert bits"
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How does this compare to the HART set?
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Quote from jeff34270 :
Which pieces would you like them to count and which pieces should they leave out?

Or maybe they should post the total piece count and then break out how many of those pieces are which type. Something like this:
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"This new 299-piece mechanic's tool set includes 134 commonly used 6- and 12-point shallow and deep sockets, 3 PRO90 ratchets, 2 extensions, 6 short combination wrenches with 15 degree offset, 50 hex keys, 2 drive handles and 102 nut driver/insert bits"
Seriously? Most of us know they advertise "$600 value" and "299 pieces" as a gimmick to try to entice buyers. No way this set is worth anywhere close to $600, and of the 299 pieces, over half are nut driver/insert bits and hex keys to boost the number count. But spin it however you wish if it makes you feel better about buying it.

Maybe I will follow your reasoning so I can sell my extra tool bits on Craigslist by including a bit driver and and 100 bits, and advertise it as a "101 piece tool set worth over $300 value." That doesn't seem disingenuous at all. LOL
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Quote from xtrabad :
Seriously? Most of us know they advertise "$600 value" and "299 pieces" as a gimmick to try to entice buyers. No way this set is worth anywhere close to $600, and of the 299 pieces, over half are nut driver/insert bits and hex keys to boost the number count. But spin it however you wish if it makes you feel better about buying it.

Maybe I will follow your reasoning so I can sell my extra tool bits on Craigslist by including a bit driver and and 100 bits, and advertise it as a "101 piece tool set worth over $300 value." That doesn't seem disingenuous at all. LOL
Okay, serious question how much do you think the set is worth and is it a good deal at $99?
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Quote from xtrabad :
Seriously? Most of us know they advertise "$600" value and "299 pieces" as a gimmick to try to entice buyers. No way this set is worth anywhere close to $600, and of the 299 pieces, over half are nut driver/insert bits/hex keys. But spin it however you wish if it makes you feel better about buying it.

Maybe I will follow your reasoning so I can sell my extra tool bits on Craigslist by including a ratchet and and 100 bits, and advertise it as a "101 piece tool set worth over $300 value." That doesn't seem disingenuous at all. LOL
Apparently you don't think that nut drivers, insert bits, and hex keys should count as pieces. But what about when someone is buying a nut driver set, insert bit set, or hex key set? Do we still not count them as pieces or do different rules apply for what counts as a piece?

Is this a 110 piece set? Why aren't people complaining about all the bits in that set?

Maybe instead of coming up with your own rules about counting pieces, people should just read what is included and decide for themselves whether or not it suits their needs and is a good value for them.
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Quote from cnazareth :
Okay, serious question how much do you think the set is worth and is it a good deal at $99?
You're missing the point entirely. The issue isn't about the deal, it is about the BS marketing and advertising tactics companies use. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that it sure isn't worth anything close to "over $600 value" as advertised.
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Quote from jeff34270 :
Apparently you don't think that nut drivers, insert bits, and hex keys should count as pieces. But what about when someone is buying a nut driver set, insert bit set, or hex key set? Do we still not count them as pieces or do different rules apply for what counts as a piece?

Is this a 110 piece set? Why aren't people complaining about all the bits in that set?

Maybe instead of coming up with your own rules about counting pieces, people should just read what is included and decide for themselves whether or not it suits their needs and is a good value for them.
I stand by my previous post. And "$600 value?" By all means, try to justify that one too. LOL.

So yeah, there should be new rules about how companies advertise and market. I think Amazon got tagged for something similar a while back in fact for falsely inflating list prices.

It's all complete BS. But believe whatever you wish. I almost think that some of you here defending this nonsense must be in marketing or advertising for a living. LOL.
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Quote from xtrabad :
I stand by my previous post. And "$600 value?" By all means, try to justify that one too. LOL.

So yeah, there should be new rules about how companies advertise and market. I think Amazon got tagged for something similar a while back in fact for falsely inflating list prices.

It's all complete BS. But believe whatever you wish. I almost think that some of you here defending this nonsense must be in marketing or advertising for a living. LOL.
What would you call that 110-piece DeWalt set? Do we count the drill bits and bit holders, but not the bits, so that is just an 8-piece set? Who should make the rules about which pieces get counted and which pieces don't?

My guess is that they get the $600 value by adding up the retail price of each individual piece. What rules would you like to apply to this part? Should they only calculate the value of the pieces that you deem worthy of counting?

Or maybe they could just tell us what is included and let us decide if it's something worthy of buying...(it's not like they're hiding anything)
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Quote from jeff34270 :
What would you call that 110-piece DeWalt set? Do we count the drill bits and bit holders, but not the bits, so that is just an 8-piece set? Who should make the rules about which pieces get counted and which pieces don't?

My guess is that they get the $600 value by adding up the retail price of each individual piece. What rules would you like to apply to this part? Should they only calculate the value of the pieces that you deem worthy of counting?

Or maybe they could just tell us what is included and let us decide if it's something worthy of buying...(it's not like they're hiding anything)
Please, by all means, show me where Lowes EVER actually sold this set for $600. Even $300. $200? I'll wait.

If you actually think this set has an actual $600 value because some marketing grad said so, I have some land to sell you.

And that is my point, so thanks for defending it. The fact that some corporate stooge can make up some arbitrary inflated BS "retail price" for each piece that we all know NEVER actually sold for, then add up the phony cost of each piece in a set whose numbers are boosted by bit count to give the illusion of "value", and then try to pass it all off as "over a $600 value" is disingenuous as hell.

If you cannot comprehend that, I cannot help you. In fact, I cannot believe I even have to explain this concept to you and others here. I am actually amazed by those of you here that actually see this as an acceptable practice and defend it.
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Quote from xtrabad :
Please, by all means, show me where Lowes EVER actually sold this set for $600. Even $300. $200? I'll wait.

If you actually think this set has an actual $600 value because some marketing grad said so, I have some land to sell you.

And that is my point, so thanks for defending it. The fact that some corporate stooge can make up some arbitrary inflated BS "retail price" for each piece that we all know NEVER actually sold for, then add up the cost of each piece in a set whose numbers are boosted by bit count, and then try to pass if off as a "over $600 value" is disingenuous as hell.

If you cannot comprehend that, I cannot help you. In fact, I cannot believe I even have to explain this concept to people here. I am actually amazed by those of you here that actually see this as an acceptable practice and defend it. LOL
Nobody ever claimed that this set sold for $600. What I said was that they probably got the "$600 value" by adding up the retail price of each individual piece.

An average of $2 per piece at retail pricing does not seem unreasonable. Some little pieces sell for a buck each, Kobalt sockets range from $2 to $6 per piece, ratchets are about $30 each...you can do the math if you'd like.
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Quote from xtrabad :
These companies need to relax with the inflated stats like "over $600 value" and "299 piece set" when most of the pieces are bits and hex keys.

It's such BS anymore that there should be a law preventing advertising like this.
This is like the first paper towel companies advertising 8 = 20 rolls
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Quote from clowngodfather :
How does this compare to the HART set?
In my opinion, this Kobalt set is slightly higher quality. Also, there are more deep sockets in more sizes in this set. Hart has more torx bit drivers and combo wrenches, but I don't use those unless I go to my more expensive ratcheting sets.

I use a similar set to fill in the odd sizes or missing nutdriver pieces I mght need unexpectedly. For an average home user, this set is handy to have for that reason and I would prefer Kobalt over Hart.
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I like Kobalt because it has a lifetime warranty. One of my bits got dull so I took to Lowes and they just gave me a new one.

I bought the 250 piece mechanics tool set in 2016 when it was on clearance for $50, with a Lowes coupon, I got it for $35. I bought 3 sets, lol. I use one which is great, sold another for $125 and still have one unopened in my garage, lol.

After selling one for $125, I pretty much got two free sets, lol.
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