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Acer Aspire XC Desktop (XC-1660G-UW92, Certified Refurbished) for
$202.39 (price reflected in cart).
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Specs:
- Intel i3-10105 4-Core 3.70 GHz Processor
- 8GB DDR4 Memory
- 256GB Solid State Drive
- Intel UHD Graphics 630
- 802.11ax Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.0
- Optical Drive Type: DVD-Writer
- Windows 10 Home
- Ports:
- 2x HDMI
- 4x USB 2.0 Ports
- 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A Ports
- 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A Port
- 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C Port
- 1x RJ-45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-My1sRI4DDU
He also lists cards taht he says are compatible such as Radeon 6400 or GTX 1050, 1650, 1030
Seems basically low profile and low Watt cards which makes sense.
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Good luck if you try shifting this to a new case, send us pictures if you make it work
Good luck if you try shifting this to a new case, send us pictures if you make it work
I own both a i5-11th gen Acer and this i3-10th gen Acer. In the i5-11th gen it has pci-4th gen slot, and in the i3-10th gen it has a pci-3rd gen slot. This RX 6400 will work in any pci-16 slot but depend of 4th, 3rd, 2nd gen PC, how fast it is. Maybe research it, as long as you are aware of this, and watch youtube videos showing what games look like using the card in gen4th mode, and gen 3rd mode, you become an informed consumer.
I've been thinking of adding the GT1030 DDR5 card, but won't do any gaming. I'm looking to determine if there is any improvement for all other uses. Thx!
FYI - cross posting on other thread
maybe you can report back to us how this i3-10gen works as plex media server. And others in thread can assist you with it if you have problems, or you can watch youtube how-to videos to help you.
All in all, from the few movies I tested transcoding with, it performed well. It's also very snappy navigating throughout my media library.
I was also able to do a fresh install of Windows 11 Home, but I couldn't get Windows to activate. The tools I ran could not find a key embedded in the BIOS, so I am not sure what's up. No OA key sticker is on the case either. I was fortunate enough to have an old Windows 7 Pro key that worked just fine. I am guessing the issue I had was that I didn't let Windows boot when I first received the PC, I just went right to doing a fresh install. Maybe the key is located somewhere on an HDD partition when you first boot it will activate, and which point Microsoft will have your digital key.
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maybe you can report back to us how this i3-10gen works as plex media server. And others in thread can assist you with it if you have problems, or you can watch youtube how-to videos to help you.
Based on that, for a 10th gen Intel CPU (product nickname of Comet Lake), someone could expect very good encode/decode performance for video up to HEVC 10-bit. This should handle the majority of media folks would wish to view for quite some time. For the price, this system has a lot of value.
8GB RAM should be enough for Plex as well. Quick Sync Video handles a lot of the heavy lifting, so RAM use should be rather minimal. While transcoding a bit of disk space would be used temporarily, but it shouldn't be to the degree where someone would need to worry about upgrading the 256GB SSD in this system, as long as the intended use for this system is modest and it is not used for too many applications. As with anything, the more you use something, the more resources you need. So if the intended use for this server is a Plex server and dual-booting Windows and Linux and a few other things, 256GB SSD won't be enough. But I would suspect most people considering the system for Plex would also use it for other lightweight tasks like web browsing, productivity tasks like word processing, spreadsheets, etc. Nothing too demanding. For that the 256GB SSD would be fine.
And as this is a 10th generation CPU, it is fully supported by Win 11 & one could easily upgrade from Win 10 pro to Windows 11 at any time. As others have mentioned, I recommend making sure the system works rock-solid with Windows 10 before upgrading. That way if anything weird happens you know it is due to Win 11 and not Win 10 and your prior configuration, which makes it easier to troubleshoot and solve issues.
For the sake of comparison, for my Plex server I use a Synology DS418play (specifications PDF here [synology.com]). This NAS has an Intel Celeron J3355 processor (AKA Apollo Lake [intel.com], the generation before the i3-1015 CPUs). The Synology only came with 2GB of RAM but I paid ~$30 to upgrade it by adding a 4GB generic memory module from Amazon (sold via Timetec: https://www.amazon.com/Timetec-Replacement-D3NS1866L-4G-Unbuffered-PC3L-14900/dp/B00RY1JBEY/ref=sr_1... [amazon.com] Synology (of course) wants you to buy "official" RAM from them, but I was not interested in paying outrageous pricing. They also say if you use non-Synology RAM you violate your warranty, but how are they going to know what RAM I use? Anyway I installed the RAM and the NAS has been working fine with a total of 6GB of RAM for about 2 years now.
So, the CPU is more recent in this Acer Aspire XC desktop than my Synology, and the Aspire has more RAM too. I'm sure the Acer would function very well for a Plex server. It also costs a lot less than my Synology did. The Synology was $365 from Amazon (after $100 Prime credit card promotion), and that was without any storage at all. I still had to put hard drives in it! So the Acer system is, I think, a fantastic deal. Enjoy!
Update: I am using Plex with hardware transcoding. Using that, it works great on my NAS and I am sure with the Acer it would too! I am not sure how well this would work with software transcoding though - hopefully someone else could comment on that.
Based on that, for a 10th gen Intel CPU (product nickname of Comet Lake), someone could expect very good encode/decode performance for video up to HEVC 10-bit. This should handle the majority of media folks would wish to view for quite some time. For the price, this system has a lot of value.
8GB RAM should be enough for Plex as well. Quick Sync Video handles a lot of the heavy lifting, so RAM use should be rather minimal. While transcoding a bit of disk space would be used temporarily, but it shouldn't be to the degree where someone would need to worry about upgrading the 256GB SSD in this system, as long as the intended use for this system is modest and it is not used for too many applications. As with anything, the more you use something, the more resources you need. So if the intended use for this server is a Plex server and dual-booting Windows and Linux and a few other things, 256GB SSD won't be enough. But I would suspect most people considering the system for Plex would also use it for other lightweight tasks like web browsing, productivity tasks like word processing, spreadsheets, etc. Nothing too demanding. For that the 256GB SSD would be fine.
And as this is a 10th generation CPU, it is fully supported by Win 11 & one could easily upgrade from Win 10 pro to Windows 11 at any time. As others have mentioned, I recommend making sure the system works rock-solid with Windows 10 before upgrading. That way if anything weird happens you know it is due to Win 11 and not Win 10 and your prior configuration, which makes it easier to troubleshoot and solve issues.
For the sake of comparison, for my Plex server I use a Synology DS418play (specifications PDF here [synology.com]). This NAS has an Intel Celeron J3355 processor (AKA Apollo Lake [intel.com], the generation before the i3-1015 CPUs). The Synology only came with 2GB of RAM but I paid ~$30 to upgrade it by adding a 4GB generic memory module from Amazon (sold via Timetec: https://www.amazon.com/Timetec-Replacement-D3NS1866L-4G-Unbuffered-PC3L-14900/dp/B00RY1JBEY/ref=sr_1... [amazon.com] Synology (of course) wants you to buy "official" RAM from them, but I was not interested in paying outrageous pricing. They also say if you use non-Synology RAM you violate your warranty, but how are they going to know what RAM I use? Anyway I installed the RAM and the NAS has been working fine with a total of 6GB of RAM for about 2 years now.
So, the CPU is more recent in this Acer Aspire XC desktop than my Synology, and the Aspire has more RAM too. I'm sure the Acer would function very well for a Plex server. It also costs a lot less than my Synology did. The Synology was $365 from Amazon (after $100 Prime credit card promotion), and that was without any storage at all. I still had to put hard drives in it! So the Acer system is, I think, a fantastic deal. Enjoy!
Update: I am using Plex with hardware transcoding. Using that, it works great on my NAS and I am sure with the Acer it would too! I am not sure how well this would work with software transcoding though - hopefully someone else could comment on that.
great post and great info. Thanks
I am thinking on something like plex server, maybe 16ram would be better, because the INTEL 630 is sharing the ram with the CPU. If you are doing intensive video transcoding it would help, also if you are doing other things at same time.
I did install Plex Media Server on my Acer i3-10th gen and my Acer i5-11th gen, both PC's have 16 ram in them. Even though I do have Plex Pass, which allows me to hardware transcode, I never transcode anything. I play using just "direct".
Like you, I don't see that much difference between 1080p and 4k on my stuff, it looks great to me, also, the new codecs have reduced how big the files are. Amazing what the newest codecs can do. Upscaling and everything. I'm amazed.
If I felt I needed transcoding, I guess I can do it, but so far, it doesn't interest me. But I know everybody has different needs and we can have others share that are hardware transcoding using Plex PASS (option).
I too have NAS but QNAP 2 bay, and although I can use QNAP's plex server, I use the local i3-10th gen or i5 11th gen, to do those tasks, puts less strain on NAS. Generally I transfer movies/tv series of stuff I want to watch the next month onto internal 1TB SSD in metal cage in the PC. That way transfering/watching everything is super fast. My NAS is more for grabbing stuff I might want to watch in month, and then turn it off (to avoid too much exposure to web hacking/virus stuff/darkweb NAS ransomware.
great post and great info. Thanks
I am thinking on something like plex server, maybe 16ram would be better, because the INTEL 630 is sharing the ram with the CPU. If you are doing intensive video transcoding it would help, also if you are doing other things at same time.
I did install Plex Media Server on my Acer i3-10th gen and my Acer i5-11th gen, both PC's have 16 ram in them. Even though I do have Plex Pass, which allows me to hardware transcode, I never transcode anything. I play using just "direct".
Like you, I don't see that much difference between 1080p and 4k on my stuff, it looks great to me, also, the new codecs have reduced how big the files are. Amazing what the newest codecs can do. Upscaling and everything. I'm amazed.
If I felt I needed transcoding, I guess I can do it, but so far, it doesn't interest me. But I know everybody has different needs and we can have others share that are hardware transcoding using Plex PASS (option).
I too have NAS but QNAP 2 bay, and although I can use QNAP's plex server, I use the local i3-10th gen or i5 11th gen, to do those tasks, puts less strain on NAS. Generally I transfer movies/tv series of stuff I want to watch the next month onto internal 1TB SSD in metal cage in the PC. That way transfering/watching everything is super fast. My NAS is more for grabbing stuff I might want to watch in month, and then turn it off (to avoid too much exposure to web hacking/virus stuff/darkweb NAS ransomware.
Yup, more RAM can always help! In the case of this Acer system that is a slick deal, I think 8GB of RAM is pretty good and should be sufficient for light duty use. It would work well for Plex & could handle most transcoding duties without breaking a sweat, as Intel's Quick Sync Video feature really handles a lot of the heavy work. But if someone wished to add more RAM, that would add further capability and the ability to run more programs at once, etc.
As a tinkering project, I recently set up another NAS to give a second life to an older 6th-gen Intel processor [intel.com] (i7-6700). This is the "Skylake" product line, so it's older than my Synology NAS's CPU. This i7-6700 also includes Quick Sync Video support but only up to HEVC (no HEVC 10-bit support at all). This runs Plex great as well. It's amazing to be able to get such performance using a CPU launched in 2015!
I agree with your thoughts on codecs and how well they work! It helps us retain high quality video while minimizing the amount of disk space required. Truly amazing.
As for transcoding, I feel the same way: Don't use it unless I need to. If I have a video in another format that my video player (usually I use a Fire TV 4K Max stick; works great, has a good Plex app & supports lots of codecs) doesn't understand, then Plex needs to transcode. When it has to, it can be done relatively painlessly due to Quick Sync Video (QSV) support. It also helps when watching content with subtitles, as this requires transcoding to show the subtitles (based on what I have seen). Without QSV/hardware acceleration, a CPU will typically get close to 100% utilization just to handle adding the subtitles and displaying them. So this is another good reason to have a CPU w/QSV Support & well worth the hardware acceleration upgrade for Plex.
Definitely a good idea to store the content locally, less latency that way as you aren't needing to transfer bits over your network as much. Good setup!
I own both a i5-11th gen Acer and this i3-10th gen Acer. In the i5-11th gen it has pci-4th gen slot, and in the i3-10th gen it has a pci-3rd gen slot. This RX 6400 will work in any pci-16 slot but depend of 4th, 3rd, 2nd gen PC, how fast it is. Maybe research it, as long as you are aware of this, and watch youtube videos showing what games look like using the card in gen4th mode, and gen 3rd mode, you become an informed consumer.
I own both a i5-11th gen Acer and this i3-10th gen Acer. In the i5-11th gen it has pci-4th gen slot, and in the i3-10th gen it has a pci-3rd gen slot. This RX 6400 will work in any pci-16 slot but depend of 4th, 3rd, 2nd gen PC, how fast it is. Maybe research it, as long as you are aware of this, and watch youtube videos showing what games look like using the card in gen4th mode, and gen 3rd mode, you become an informed consumer.
What PC did you just get? If you got the exact model in this thread it is PCI 3rd gen, I state this in my post.
If you get the i5-11th gen Acer refurb this card will see the card as pci-gen4
If you get the exact model in this thread, i3-10th gen , it will be pci-gen3.
When you post, always say the model you got, because some people in this thread bought other pc's and are comparing them, or they see better price on something else. In both your latest posts, you don't say the model you got. Many of us assume you mean the model in this thread. Do you have the rx-6400 installed in your i3-10th gen PC?
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What PC did you just get? If you got the exact model in this thread it is PCI 3rd gen, I state this in my post.
If you get the i5-11th gen Acer refurb this card will see the card as pci-gen4
If you get the exact model in this thread, i3-10th gen , it will be pci-gen3.
When you post, always say the model you got, because some people in this thread bought other pc's and are comparing them, or they see better price on something else. In both your latest posts, you don't say the model you got. Many of us assume you mean the model in this thread. Do you have the rx-6400 installed in your i3-10th gen PC?
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