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Microsoft Surface 3 15" Touchscreen Laptop (Refurb): Ryzen 5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD

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Newegg has Microsoft Surface 3 15" Touchscreen Laptop (Refurbished, PLR00001) for $369.99. Shipping is free.

new.techies via eBay has Microsoft Surface 3 15" Touchscreen Laptop (Refurbished, PLR00001) for $379. Shipping is free.

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Specs:
  • 15" 2496 x 1664 PixelSense Touchscreen Display
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3580U 2.10GHz Processor
  • 8GB RAM
  • 128GB Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon Vega 9 Graphics
  • 802.11ac WiFi + Bluetooth 4.0
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Ports:
    • 1x USB-C
    • 1x Mini DisplayPort
    • 1x SD Card Reader

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  • About this product:
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      • Includes a 2-year Allstate warranty
      • Certified Refurbished: This Certified Refurbished product is tested and certified to look and work like new. The refurbishing process includes functionality testing, basic cleaning, inspection, and repackaging. The Surface ships with charger only, and will arrive in a original Microsoft Factory sealed box. Fully refurbished by Microsoft technicians to meet the performance specifications of new Microsoft products. Repackaged and sealed to meet Microsoft's stringent final inspection requirements
    • Newegg
      • 1-year warranty
  • About this store:
    • new.techies via eBay return policy: 30 days returns | Seller pays for return shipping
    • This item is covered by Newegg.com's Standard Return Policy

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Newegg has Microsoft Surface 3 15" Touchscreen Laptop (Refurbished, PLR00001) for $369.99. Shipping is free.

new.techies via eBay has Microsoft Surface 3 15" Touchscreen Laptop (Refurbished, PLR00001) for $379. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member WittyMagic481 for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • 15" 2496 x 1664 PixelSense Touchscreen Display
  • AMD Ryzen 5 3580U 2.10GHz Processor
  • 8GB RAM
  • 128GB Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon Vega 9 Graphics
  • 802.11ac WiFi + Bluetooth 4.0
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Ports:
    • 1x USB-C
    • 1x Mini DisplayPort
    • 1x SD Card Reader

Editor's Notes

Written by CChoiVA
  • About this product:
    • eBay
      • Includes a 2-year Allstate warranty
      • Certified Refurbished: This Certified Refurbished product is tested and certified to look and work like new. The refurbishing process includes functionality testing, basic cleaning, inspection, and repackaging. The Surface ships with charger only, and will arrive in a original Microsoft Factory sealed box. Fully refurbished by Microsoft technicians to meet the performance specifications of new Microsoft products. Repackaged and sealed to meet Microsoft's stringent final inspection requirements
    • Newegg
      • 1-year warranty
  • About this store:
    • new.techies via eBay return policy: 30 days returns | Seller pays for return shipping
    • This item is covered by Newegg.com's Standard Return Policy

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mrkmrk69
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I went through 3 of this model over the winter ebay/Microsoft refurbished. One had a yellowish screen tint, one kept rebooting randomly, one had terrible light bleed from the keyboard. Those were all $580 at time. Lower you expectations and this will be a decent machine. The screen is the pony here.
nowayman
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Put refurb in the title, 'eh?
ccsicecoke
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RAM not upgradable!

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reqUser098
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if u like the screen, go for the acer one, 11th gen i5, bigger storage, 2 years warranty
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Quote from reqUser098 :
if u like the screen, go for the acer one, 11th gen i5, bigger storage, 2 years warranty
As slim/well built as Surface?
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Luigis3rdcousin
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Ryzen 5… ryzen 5 what. 3500u? 4500u? 5500u? There's quite a huge gap between all 3 of those generations.
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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin :
Ryzen 5… ryzen 5 what. 3500u? 4500u? 5500u? There's quite a huge gap between all 3 of those generations.
It seems like the ebay seller is trying promote his own listing here with the critical info left out.
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picframe
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UPC:0714752071842
Ryzen 5 3580U (aka microsoft edition )
paired with Radeon RX Vega 9
4 core 8 threads TPD 15W
Passmark bench @ 7520 average.

compare to Intel i5-1035g4 @ 8223 average.

It is not bad actually, especially video power will be better than Intel variant.
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Luigis3rdcousin
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Quote from picframe :
UPC:0714752071842
Ryzen 5 3580U (aka microsoft edition )
paired with Radeon RX Vega 9
4 core 8 threads TPD 15W
Passmark bench @ 7520 average.

compare to Intel i5-1035g4 @ 8223 average.

It is not bad actually, especially video power will be better than Intel variant.
Ryzen mobile can be overclocked or underclocked. Ryzen controller is pretty cool. The chip is 15w tdp typically. But they can vary between 15-25w. But what's cool about setting it to 15w is, it will be slightly slower but significantly cooler running. And more energy efficient
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bert90987
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Quote from picframe :
UPC:0714752071842
Ryzen 5 3580U (aka microsoft edition )
paired with Radeon RX Vega 9
4 core 8 threads TPD 15W
Passmark bench @ 7520 average.

compare to Intel i5-1035g4 @ 8223 average.

It is not bad actually, especially video power will be better than Intel variant.
That's what I thought. The ryzen 4000 series is way better than the 3000, but I don't think 3000 would be bad unless your use case is gaming/video editing, etc.

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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin :
Ryzen mobile can be overclocked or underclocked. Ryzen controller is pretty cool. The chip is 15w tdp typically. But they can vary between 15-25w. But what's cool about setting it to 15w is, it will be slightly slower but significantly cooler running. And more energy efficient
Are there any larger negatives of the 3000 ryzen processor to be aware of? I feel like most things I read online are that as soon a processor is not new it's garbage. Thanks
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eastpetersen
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Just a note surface devices hardware has been pretty finicky and non replaceable for a while. I have been responsible for a couple hundred of these over the years and the failure rate has been pretty high. More battery failures than any other brand since 2000s Sony battery issues and generally non replaceable. Also ryzen mobile 3000 equals 4th gen Intel, ryzen 4000 competes with modern stuff.
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Quote from bert90987 :
Are there any larger negatives of the 3000 ryzen processor to be aware of? I feel like most things I read online are that as soon a processor is not new it's garbage. Thanks

Hopefully you're ok doing some independent reading..
https://www.google.com/search?q=R...s-wiz-serp
Last edited by Talysdaddy June 23, 2022 at 05:38 AM.
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bert90987
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Quote from Talysdaddy :
Hopefully you're ok doing some independent reading..
https://www.google.com/search?q=R...s-wiz-serp
Thank you, for the sarcasm. Applause

If you would have properly read my post I had indicated that I had read online on my own, but that much of what I had read was more hyperbolic than substantive. As such, I was seeking feedback from community members from their experiences.

Have a nice daySmilie
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thischris
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I have the 13.5" i7, 16GB, 512GB SSD version of this laptop and had it over a year. One of the best Laptops I've owned. The AMD version might not be iffy but the price and bigger screen might make this a huge bargain. Mine was over $2k.
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cy9394
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Quote from bert90987 :
Thank you, for the sarcasm.

If you would have properly read my post I had indicated that I had read online on my own, but that much of what I had read was more hyperbolic than substantive. As such, I was seeking feedback from community members from their experiences.

Have a nice day
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Quote from bert90987 :
Are there any larger negatives of the 3000 ryzen processor to be aware of? I feel like most things I read online are that as soon a processor is not new it's garbage. Thanks
To be fair, R5 3580U is on Zen+ architecture, which was introduced back in 2018. Intel's 10th gen was introduced back in 2019 (AMD's Zen 2 was also introduced in 2019). So, you are basically comparing a year older architecture to Intel.

From Intel's 4th gen all the way to 9th gen, the incremental improvement was 2-5% in each generation; AMD was "asleep". Then AMD came out with the Zen (Ryzen) architecture, and things (both Intel and AMD) started to have 10%+ incremental improvement per generation. Maybe that's why you are hearing "if it's not new, it's garbage".
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pug_ster
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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin :
Ryzen mobile can be overclocked or underclocked. Ryzen controller is pretty cool. The chip is 15w tdp typically. But they can vary between 15-25w. But what's cool about setting it to 15w is, it will be slightly slower but significantly cooler running. And more energy efficient
I don't think it would be that great because this cpu this is made in the 12nm process. Intel's 10th gen cpu's are comparable.

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bert90987
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Quote from cy9394 :
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To be fair, R5 3580U is on Zen+ architecture, which was introduced back in 2018. Intel's 10th gen was introduced back in 2019 (AMD's Zen 2 was also introduced in 2019). So, you are basically comparing a year older architecture to Intel.

From Intel's 4th gen all the way to 9th gen, the incremental improvement was 2-5% in each generation; AMD was "asleep". Then AMD came out with the Zen (Ryzen) architecture, and things (both Intel and AMD) started to have 10%+ incremental improvement per generation. Maybe that's why you are hearing "if it's not new, it's garbage".
That makes sense thanks.

Any opinion on this posted deal vs this 3700U elitebook for $50 less? My thoughts are that it would mainly come down to: screen preference (15 vs 14) as well as touch, and feel of the surface vs upgradeability/repairability of the hp.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154977668116#rpdCntId
Last edited by bert90987 June 23, 2022 at 08:17 AM.

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