Subjectively your preference will vary and the only way to know is to try them out yourself.
Objectively the 530s trounce the rp-600m's. The klipsch horn and woofer aren't time aligned and there is a huge dip in the mid range where most voices and instruments are. I have both and loved the 600's until I got the 530's. The tone and timbre of the instruments sounded more real on the JBLs
Howdy I am not familiar with the functionality of the Schiit EQ.
I use a MiniDSP 4x10hd and also sometimes a 2x4hd and have used phone app based PEQ (Android, USB Audio Player Pro with Tidal imbedded) and EqualizerAPO software for a laptop/desktop.
The Klipsch speakers were not mine, I borrowed them. I do a lot of testing along with that I am slowly designing a few speakers.
The speakers really just need a little boost in the upper midrange, and the ability to turn the treble down a little. Then the biggest thing is tweaking the bass/room interaction. Just the ability to tame the 2 or 3 worst room modes will really clean up the sound.
I sometimes see folks talk about bass issues with these but it most likely room interaction issues. These speakers have excellent woofers for such a low priced speaker. The bass is superb IMHO once dialed in. Yes I have heard better but my 4 pairs of design reference passive monitors retail for $11,200 for the 4 pairs. These RP600m's woofers offer a solid 90% of what those can do.
Of course you can fine tune it all more but after doing the above any further gains are minimal even if technically they would help or look good on a graph.
Anyway if you have some time to learn some software, I'd try EqualizerAPO with the PEACE interface added to it 1st as it is free - even if you normally don't use your computer for audio. It is a bit harder to learn than ideal at 1st but it is free and will give you an idea of what PEQ can and can not do and help you decide if you are into it.
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I currently have a pair of low end Polk towers behind an acoustically transparent 120" screen. Looking to upgrade and step up. How would these fair as front left and right speakers? I plan to upgrade my center channel also shortly.
Which Polk towers? Polk speakers are generally fairly heavy on high mids which make them good for home theater but not so great for most music.
Howdy I am not familiar with the functionality of the Schiit EQ.
I use a MiniDSP 4x10hd and also sometimes a 2x4hd and have used phone app based PEQ (Android, USB Audio Player Pro with Tidal imbedded) and EqualizerAPO software for a laptop/desktop.
The Klipsch speakers were not mine, I borrowed them. I do a lot of testing along with that I am slowly designing a few speakers.
The speakers really just need a little boost in the upper midrange, and the ability to turn the treble down a little. Then the biggest thing is tweaking the bass/room interaction. Just the ability to tame the 2 or 3 worst room modes will really clean up the sound.
I sometimes see folks talk about bass issues with these but it most likely room interaction issues. These speakers have excellent woofers for such a low priced speaker. The bass is superb IMHO once dialed in. Yes I have heard better but my 4 pairs of design reference passive monitors retail for $11,200 for the 4 pairs. These RP600m's woofers offer a solid 90% of what those can do.
Of course you can fine tune it all more but after doing the above any further gains are minimal even if technically they would help or look good on a graph.
Anyway if you have some time to learn some software, I'd try EqualizerAPO with the PEACE interface added to it 1st as it is free - even if you normally don't use your computer for audio. It is a bit harder to learn than ideal at 1st but it is free and will give you an idea of what PEQ can and can not do and help you decide if you are into it.
I'm not at ROOSKIE's level but echoing what they're saying about EqualizerAPO and PeaceEq. Look into AutoEQ as well and plant them into it. Changes the game.
Soundwise they are similar - the 600's has an RMS wattage of 100 and sound a little more aggressive, and the 500s are 75 watts and are a tad bit quieter. I just bought a pair of the 600s and love them. What kind of AVR or AMP are you powering these from? If your amp can run the 600s I recommend those but I don't think the 500s are a bad choice either.
Soundwise they are similar - the 600's has an RMS wattage of 100 and sound a little more aggressive, and the 500s are 75 watts and are a tad bit quieter. I just bought a pair of the 600s and love them. What kind of AVR or AMP are you powering these from? If your amp can run the 600s I recommend those but I don't think the 500s are a bad choice either.
Tried the 600s along with the 500-m and 400-m. The 600s are definitely nothing special. I ended up keeping my existing towers which are Klipsch RF 42 II
Tried the 600s along with the 500-m and 400-m. The 600s are definitely nothing special. I ended up keeping my existing towers which are Klipsch RF 42 II
really profound stuff here, your more expensive floor standing klipsch with basically the same tweeter and drivers (just a bigger enclosure so more bass) but slightly different waveguide for the horn is what you ended up keeping? ya dont say...
really profound stuff here, your more expensive floor standing klipsch with basically the same tweeter and drivers (just a bigger enclosure so more bass) but slightly different waveguide for the horn is what you ended up keeping? ya dont say...
The 600-M has a higher retail price than the RF 42 II. Just saying even at this sale price, I think there are better options out there
I just want to give my two cents about Klipsch. I feel the "bad" review/measurements are not telling the whole story. I'm not sure about the RP-600m, but I'm sure it's similar to the RP-8000f. Klipsch recommends the listening position to be at least 3-4 meters. Most standard speaker measurements are 1-2 meters. The Klipsch speakers likely needs more time for the tweeter and woofer to sum better, hence why all the measurements show the mid dip at the shorter near field distance. I have the RP-8000f at 12ft from MLP and the tweeter and woofer sums fine. So I feel these do not get a fair assessment and generally have bias people slander the Klipsch name because they sold out and are in big box stores.
Like others suggest, the dip can be EQed and there's nothing wrong with that. Unless you have a perfect room acoustically, you will need to EQ anyways, no matter what speaker or how flat it is measured in an anechoic room.
I just got my 600m 2 days ago from here to replace my 500m and have been comparing the 2 while watching some shows/movies. I compare by unplugging one side and sliding in the other model and move side to side to listen for differences from about 3 feet away from the speakers. I would have the 600 on the left side and 500 on the right side and then do the opposite to make sure both ears are hearing the same set up. I am sure none of this is best practice but it's all I got.
The 500's have more a presence to them than the 600s. In a diner scene in Stranger Things, while the characters are talking, you can hear the dishes banging around in the background and other noises in a way that sounds like the sound is in front of the speaker. With the 600s, the same sounds are there but not as pronounced. The sounds feels "deeper in the speaker" instead of in front of it. That's the best way I can describe what I am hearing. From 10 feet away, when the rest of the surround sound system is in play from the listening position, these differences are harder to hear but you do hear them.
The thing that surprised me the most was the bass from the 600s. It feels like I have added a second subwoofer to my system. That I do like.
I am not sure which one I like better yet and will continue to swap them out with different movies/shows. Will probably keep the 600s since the price was great and try them against my Klipsch RB61 II's in my other room.
I also had picked up the RP-504c from this sale it definitely was an upgrade over the RP-500c it replaced.
All of this is subjective and based on my open room with 50% glass and my ears (which don't have fancy speaker measuring software to tell them how stupid they are).
EDIT:
I found this statement by someone on stereophile.com and wonder if it is what I am experiencing:
"I'm not a fan of these speakers, as I find them too recessed in the mids and too hot on top.
I urge anyone interested in this speaker to audition the RP500M, which not only costs less, but is a much better design that is far more balanced and better sounding without the big midrange dip and overly shrill treble of the 600."
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I just got my 600m 2 days ago from here to replace my 500m and have been comparing the 2 while watching some shows/movies. I compare by unplugging one side and sliding in the other model and move side to side to listen for differences from about 3 feet away from the speakers. I would have the 600 on the left side and 500 on the right side and then do the opposite to make sure both ears are hearing the same set up. I am sure none of this is best practice but it's all I got.
The 500's have more a presence to them than the 600s. In a diner scene in Stranger Things, while the characters are talking, you can hear the dishes banging around in the background and other noises in a way that sounds like the sound is in front of the speaker. With the 600s, the same sounds are there but not as pronounced. The sounds feels "deeper in the speaker" instead of in front of it. That's the best way I can describe what I am hearing. From 10 feet away, when the rest of the surround sound system is in play from the listening position, these differences are harder to hear but you do hear them.
The thing that surprised me the most was the bass from the 600s. It feels like I have added a second subwoofer to my system. That I do like.
I am not sure which one I like better yet and will continue to swap them out with different movies/shows. Will probably keep the 600s since the price was great and try them against my Klipsch RB61 II's in my other room.
I also had picked up the RP-504c from this sale it definitely was an upgrade over the RP-500c it replaced.
All of this is subjective and based on my open room with 50% glass and my ears (which don't have fancy speaker measuring software to tell them how stupid they are).
EDIT:
I found this statement by someone on stereophile.com and wonder if it is what I am experiencing:
"I'm not a fan of these speakers, as I find them too recessed in the mids and too hot on top.
I urge anyone interested in this speaker to audition the RP500M, which not only costs less, but is a much better design that is far more balanced and better sounding without the big midrange dip and overly shrill treble of the 600."
(removed content not relevant to the actual speakers)
Thankyou so much for the detailed reply. I appreciate it. I just placed the order for the 500M, purely to save $ and they v will be used in a small living room so hopefully the 500M will serve my purpose. Thanks again!
You are correct about the 600 sounding like it has more depth in the center imaging. This is due to the dip in the mid range where the 500 does not have the same dip. You can make the 600 sound more forward by EQing that dip out. B&W does the same thing by recessing the frequency response after 2k with a 2db peak around 8k-10k. I believe they do this to create depth in the sound stage and air in the upper treble.
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Subjectively your preference will vary and the only way to know is to try them out yourself.
Objectively the 530s trounce the rp-600m's. The klipsch horn and woofer aren't time aligned and there is a huge dip in the mid range where most voices and instruments are. I have both and loved the 600's until I got the 530's. The tone and timbre of the instruments sounded more real on the JBLs
I use a MiniDSP 4x10hd and also sometimes a 2x4hd and have used phone app based PEQ (Android, USB Audio Player Pro with Tidal imbedded) and EqualizerAPO software for a laptop/desktop.
The Klipsch speakers were not mine, I borrowed them. I do a lot of testing along with that I am slowly designing a few speakers.
The speakers really just need a little boost in the upper midrange, and the ability to turn the treble down a little. Then the biggest thing is tweaking the bass/room interaction. Just the ability to tame the 2 or 3 worst room modes will really clean up the sound.
I sometimes see folks talk about bass issues with these but it most likely room interaction issues. These speakers have excellent woofers for such a low priced speaker. The bass is superb IMHO once dialed in. Yes I have heard better but my 4 pairs of design reference passive monitors retail for $11,200 for the 4 pairs. These RP600m's woofers offer a solid 90% of what those can do.
Of course you can fine tune it all more but after doing the above any further gains are minimal even if technically they would help or look good on a graph.
Anyway if you have some time to learn some software, I'd try EqualizerAPO with the PEACE interface added to it 1st as it is free - even if you normally don't use your computer for audio. It is a bit harder to learn than ideal at 1st but it is free and will give you an idea of what PEQ can and can not do and help you decide if you are into it.
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I use a MiniDSP 4x10hd and also sometimes a 2x4hd and have used phone app based PEQ (Android, USB Audio Player Pro with Tidal imbedded) and EqualizerAPO software for a laptop/desktop.
The Klipsch speakers were not mine, I borrowed them. I do a lot of testing along with that I am slowly designing a few speakers.
The speakers really just need a little boost in the upper midrange, and the ability to turn the treble down a little. Then the biggest thing is tweaking the bass/room interaction. Just the ability to tame the 2 or 3 worst room modes will really clean up the sound.
I sometimes see folks talk about bass issues with these but it most likely room interaction issues. These speakers have excellent woofers for such a low priced speaker. The bass is superb IMHO once dialed in. Yes I have heard better but my 4 pairs of design reference passive monitors retail for $11,200 for the 4 pairs. These RP600m's woofers offer a solid 90% of what those can do.
Of course you can fine tune it all more but after doing the above any further gains are minimal even if technically they would help or look good on a graph.
Anyway if you have some time to learn some software, I'd try EqualizerAPO with the PEACE interface added to it 1st as it is free - even if you normally don't use your computer for audio. It is a bit harder to learn than ideal at 1st but it is free and will give you an idea of what PEQ can and can not do and help you decide if you are into it.
I'm not at ROOSKIE's level but echoing what they're saying about EqualizerAPO and PeaceEq. Look into AutoEQ as well and plant them into it. Changes the game.
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Soundwise they are similar - the 600's has an RMS wattage of 100 and sound a little more aggressive, and the 500s are 75 watts and are a tad bit quieter. I just bought a pair of the 600s and love them. What kind of AVR or AMP are you powering these from? If your amp can run the 600s I recommend those but I don't think the 500s are a bad choice either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuimYNg
Soundwise they are similar - the 600's has an RMS wattage of 100 and sound a little more aggressive, and the 500s are 75 watts and are a tad bit quieter. I just bought a pair of the 600s and love them. What kind of AVR or AMP are you powering these from? If your amp can run the 600s I recommend those but I don't think the 500s are a bad choice either.
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Like others suggest, the dip can be EQed and there's nothing wrong with that. Unless you have a perfect room acoustically, you will need to EQ anyways, no matter what speaker or how flat it is measured in an anechoic room.
The 500's have more a presence to them than the 600s. In a diner scene in Stranger Things, while the characters are talking, you can hear the dishes banging around in the background and other noises in a way that sounds like the sound is in front of the speaker. With the 600s, the same sounds are there but not as pronounced. The sounds feels "deeper in the speaker" instead of in front of it. That's the best way I can describe what I am hearing. From 10 feet away, when the rest of the surround sound system is in play from the listening position, these differences are harder to hear but you do hear them.
The thing that surprised me the most was the bass from the 600s. It feels like I have added a second subwoofer to my system. That I do like.
I am not sure which one I like better yet and will continue to swap them out with different movies/shows. Will probably keep the 600s since the price was great and try them against my Klipsch RB61 II's in my other room.
I also had picked up the RP-504c from this sale it definitely was an upgrade over the RP-500c it replaced.
All of this is subjective and based on my open room with 50% glass and my ears (which don't have fancy speaker measuring software to tell them how stupid they are).
Equipment used: Denon x4500h, (with Audyssey XT32 run) and SVS SB-3000.
EDIT:
I found this statement by someone on stereophile.com and wonder if it is what I am experiencing:
"I'm not a fan of these speakers, as I find them too recessed in the mids and too hot on top.
I urge anyone interested in this speaker to audition the RP500M, which not only costs less, but is a much better design that is far more balanced and better sounding without the big midrange dip and overly shrill treble of the 600."
(removed content not relevant to the actual speakers)
The 500's have more a presence to them than the 600s. In a diner scene in Stranger Things, while the characters are talking, you can hear the dishes banging around in the background and other noises in a way that sounds like the sound is in front of the speaker. With the 600s, the same sounds are there but not as pronounced. The sounds feels "deeper in the speaker" instead of in front of it. That's the best way I can describe what I am hearing. From 10 feet away, when the rest of the surround sound system is in play from the listening position, these differences are harder to hear but you do hear them.
The thing that surprised me the most was the bass from the 600s. It feels like I have added a second subwoofer to my system. That I do like.
I am not sure which one I like better yet and will continue to swap them out with different movies/shows. Will probably keep the 600s since the price was great and try them against my Klipsch RB61 II's in my other room.
I also had picked up the RP-504c from this sale it definitely was an upgrade over the RP-500c it replaced.
All of this is subjective and based on my open room with 50% glass and my ears (which don't have fancy speaker measuring software to tell them how stupid they are).
Equipment used: Denon x4500h, (with Audyssey XT32 run) and SVS SB-3000.
EDIT:
I found this statement by someone on stereophile.com and wonder if it is what I am experiencing:
"I'm not a fan of these speakers, as I find them too recessed in the mids and too hot on top.
I urge anyone interested in this speaker to audition the RP500M, which not only costs less, but is a much better design that is far more balanced and better sounding without the big midrange dip and overly shrill treble of the 600."
(removed content not relevant to the actual speakers)
Thankyou so much for the detailed reply. I appreciate it. I just placed the order for the 500M, purely to save $ and they v will be used in a small living room so hopefully the 500M will serve my purpose. Thanks again!
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