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New HP Pavilion Plus 14 (2022): 14" 2.8K OLED 90Hz, i7-12700H, 16GB DDR4, 256GB PCIe SSD, Win11H @ $807.49 + F/S

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  • Windows 11 Home
  • 14" 2880x1800 16:10 90Hz OLED, SDR 400nits, HDR 500nits, 100% DCI-P3
  • Core i7-12700H 6P+8E/20T CPU (4.7 GHz Turbo, 24MB Cache)
  • Intel Iris Xe Graphics (96 EU)
  • 16GB DDR4-3200 Memory (OnBoard)
  • 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • Realtek Wi-Fi 6 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.2
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps, DisplayPort 1.4, Power Delivery)
    • 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
    • 1x microSD Card Reader
  • 3 Cell 51 WHr Battery
  • 3.09 lbs
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New HP Pavilion Plus 14 (2022): 14" 2.8K OLED 90Hz, i7-12700H, 16GB DDR4, 256GB PCIe SSD, Win11H @ $807.49 + F/S
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06-27-2022 at 11:41 AM #2
Great specs except for the SSD. Almost perfect for most people.
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06-27-2022 at 11:56 AM #3
800 for P@W folks. Great screen, fast processor but small battery and SSD and no TP 4 from what I see.

I expect the battery life to be mediocre at best unless they throttle the crap out of that H processor. I'm curious why they didn't use a P series CPU instead.
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06-27-2022 at 12:23 PM #4
after getting an i5-1235U system, I'm not sold on alder lake mobile at least on non gaming systems. The battery life is insanely bad compared to AMD. a 5600U at 15W has slightly slower Cinebench results compared to the i5 1235U, but the i5 is using almost double the power. It started off using 50W on the CPU and towards the end of a 10 min cinebench run, it's TDP leveled off to around 28W. This means that while using the intel system, the battery drains so much faster. My HP Aero 13 has such insane battery life compared to the Acer Aspire 5 I got even though they have similar size battery capacity. I can use my HP Aero 13 pretty much all day, while the acer would be dead within 3 hours of use. if the U series has such high power usage, I can't imagine what a P series or H series CPU would be doing. I wonder if they tuned the TDP at all, and if they did, how does that effect performance? It certainly is a lot of potential CPU performance, depending on what they set the TDP to, but throwing a high res OLED screen just seems like compounding problems for a system with only a 51WHr battery. OLED laptops already have battery problems since the display uses even more power than an LCD. throw Alder Lake sucking down power on-top of that and I would be shocked if this lasts more than 2 or 3 hours unless they throttle the hell out of that CPU.
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06-27-2022 at 12:44 PM #5
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after getting an i5-1235U system, I'm not sold on alder lake mobile at least on non gaming systems. The battery life is insanely bad compared to AMD. a 5600U at 15W has slightly slower Cinebench results compared to the i5 1235U, but the i5 is using almost double the power. It started off using 50W on the CPU and towards the end of a 10 min cinebench run, it's TDP leveled off to around 28W. This means that while using the intel system, the battery drains so much faster. My HP Aero 13 has such insane battery life compared to the Acer Aspire 5 I got even though they have similar size battery capacity. I can use my HP Aero 13 pretty much all day, while the acer would be dead within 3 hours of use. if the U series has such high power usage, I can't imagine what a P series or H series CPU would be doing. I wonder if they tuned the TDP at all, and if they did, how does that effect performance? It certainly is a lot of potential CPU performance, depending on what they set the TDP to, but throwing a high res OLED screen just seems like compounding problems for a system with only a 51WHr battery. OLED laptops already have battery problems since the display uses even more power than an LCD. throw Alder Lake sucking down power on-top of that and I would be shocked if this lasts more than 2 or 3 hours unless they throttle the hell out of that CPU.
You're not going to get good battery with any Alder Lake processors, H, P or U series. P series processors, even with paired with huge 70 Whr battery, without any dedicated GPU, like in Yoga 9i, provide very moderate battery life and 5000 series with far smaller battery can match them or even beat them is certain cases. 6000 is even more efficient. The problem is you won't get that many AMD options and even if you get, their availability are very limited.
By the way, in this laptop, the TDP is limited, max 55W to 65W for short bursts and 45w.
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06-27-2022 at 12:58 PM #6
No TB4 or usb4?
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06-27-2022 at 05:34 PM #7
Quote from asdf4455 :
after getting an i5-1235U system, I'm not sold on alder lake mobile at least on non gaming systems. The battery life is insanely bad compared to AMD. a 5600U at 15W has slightly slower Cinebench results compared to the i5 1235U, but the i5 is using almost double the power. It started off using 50W on the CPU and towards the end of a 10 min cinebench run, it's TDP leveled off to around 28W. This means that while using the intel system, the battery drains so much faster. My HP Aero 13 has such insane battery life compared to the Acer Aspire 5 I got even though they have similar size battery capacity. I can use my HP Aero 13 pretty much all day, while the acer would be dead within 3 hours of use. if the U series has such high power usage, I can't imagine what a P series or H series CPU would be doing. I wonder if they tuned the TDP at all, and if they did, how does that effect performance? It certainly is a lot of potential CPU performance, depending on what they set the TDP to, but throwing a high res OLED screen just seems like compounding problems for a system with only a 51WHr battery. OLED laptops already have battery problems since the display uses even more power than an LCD. throw Alder Lake sucking down power on-top of that and I would be shocked if this lasts more than 2 or 3 hours unless they throttle the hell out of that CPU.
well, guess my best bet is keep my 5600U
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06-27-2022 at 06:58 PM #8
Quote from asdf4455 :
after getting an i5-1235U system, I'm not sold on alder lake mobile at least on non gaming systems. The battery life is insanely bad compared to AMD. a 5600U at 15W has slightly slower Cinebench results compared to the i5 1235U, but the i5 is using almost double the power. It started off using 50W on the CPU and towards the end of a 10 min cinebench run, it's TDP leveled off to around 28W. This means that while using the intel system, the battery drains so much faster. My HP Aero 13 has such insane battery life compared to the Acer Aspire 5 I got even though they have similar size battery capacity. I can use my HP Aero 13 pretty much all day, while the acer would be dead within 3 hours of use. if the U series has such high power usage, I can't imagine what a P series or H series CPU would be doing. I wonder if they tuned the TDP at all, and if they did, how does that effect performance? It certainly is a lot of potential CPU performance, depending on what they set the TDP to, but throwing a high res OLED screen just seems like compounding problems for a system with only a 51WHr battery. OLED laptops already have battery problems since the display uses even more power than an LCD. throw Alder Lake sucking down power on-top of that and I would be shocked if this lasts more than 2 or 3 hours unless they throttle the hell out of that CPU.
1. Notebookcheck.net reviews
Between LOAD AND WIFI is what battery runtime you can expect.
Push hard and you'll need to look at laptops with great LOAD runtimes.
(E.g. Even a MacBook Air M1 runs LESS THAN 2 hours under heavy load.)

Eg lg gram 16...

2. Laptopmag.com longest running laptops list.

3. Long battery and FAST is generally not going to happen. A few fast gaming and workstation laptops will give you a 2+ hours under load.

A bit of this is the weight issue, a bit the 100w lithium battery limitation (of Airlines).

4. Raptor Lake next year - even lower power use as Intel optimizes.
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06-28-2022 at 01:39 PM #9
What's the battery life?
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06-28-2022 at 01:52 PM #10
OLEDs must be experienced to be appreciated.
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06-28-2022 at 04:24 PM #11
Love that makers are starting to put out OLED screens (Acer's is coming in July) if for no other reason than the non OLED screen versions are going to drop in price like a stone (but as power says OLED screens are MUCH better than the previous version especially for people who need accurate color representation.)
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06-28-2022 at 04:35 PM #12
When is HP going to get rid of their god awful silver keyboards?
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06-29-2022 at 06:57 AM #13
jesus this screen alone. if your an editor you shouldn't put up with less today.
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06-29-2022 at 10:49 AM #14
Yeah these are really bad deals.
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07-06-2022 at 06:39 PM #15
TP 4? New tech??
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800 for P@W folks. Great screen, fast processor but small battery and SSD and no TP 4 from what I see.

I expect the battery life to be mediocre at best unless they throttle the crap out of that H processor. I'm curious why they didn't use a P series CPU instead.
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