The Stride is a commuter style class 2 E-Bike that has both throttle and pedal assist, top speed of 20 MPH and 40 mile range.
The Groove is a foldable fat tire bike that can go a little more off-road riding and can fold into a trunk and has a 45 mile range, also class 2 with 20 MPH max speed.
Bafang motors are considered more reliable hub motors and the li-ion battery packs are CL certified.
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The Stride is a commuter style class 2 E-Bike that has both throttle and pedal assist, top speed of 20 MPH and 40 mile range.
The Groove is a foldable fat tire bike that can go a little more off-road riding and can fold into a trunk and has a 45 mile range, also class 2 with 20 MPH max speed.
Bafang motors are considered more reliable hub motors and the li-ion battery packs are CL certified.
About this deal:
Refer to the forum thread for additional information & offer discussion.
No longer available:
Also available, GEN3Ride.com has their GEN3 The Groove 500W Folding Fat Tire E-Bike for $1199 - $300 w/ coupon code SUMMER = $899. Shipping is free.
Note: Currently out of stock. more to become available by September 30, 2022.
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Package arrived today 7/5 via FedEx
It took me about 35 minutes to assemble (I am experienced so take that into account)
*One odd issue was the derailleur protector needed to be bent outwards to allow the bike to shift into lower gears. There was a tag zip-tied to the derailleur to let you know that this step might need to be done.
*Another tip, the disc brakes cable needed to be tightened to create a better stopping power with less effort. There was no warping of rotors or any issues with brakes.
The build quality and parts were much better than I had anticipated for a $900 e-bike considering the price for a replacement battery is $350, they did a good job with the other parts to keep the price down. I was pleasantly surprised to see the Bafang motor which are high quality motors specified as well as the entry level Shimano shifter.
I had test ridden a friend's similar model (KBO Breeze) to the Stride but with a 750W motor and 50miles range, the motor was almost too powerful and the bike was heavier making it a bit unwieldy at first, I like how the 500w on the Stride doesn't make you feel unsafe as you take-off, the 750w was a bit extreme. This is our first e-bike so the 20 mph top end seemed like a good place to start. My son an my wife both tested the bike after I safety checked it and both commented on how much they liked it and it was great to se a big smile on my wife's face as she returned to the driveway after her test ride of her new bike.
In Summary, at $900 I believe there are not many options in the market that will come close to the value of this bike. I am very exited that my wife will now be more willing to ride with the family when we go on bike cruises. She was reluctant to go as we (me and the boys) were 'too fast' and always felt like she was holding us up. Now we will probably be the ones holding her up
About me: I have 13 bikes at my house between my wife and children. I have been working on bikes for about 15 years as a hobby, and necessity, with my small fleet of bikes. I have bikes ranging from about $450-$5600 (Ibis Ripmo Carbon Fox Factory).
FedEx delivered the Groove today. It was packaged well (tons of foam) and there was no damage. There is some sort of adhesive on the upper rear frame I need to clean off. Assembly was straightforward. The only thing that need adjustment was the stem alignment with the front wheel. I squared it up as well as I could, but the front tire seems to be slightly out of alignment with the midpoint of the frame. Will I return it for that? Probably not, but it is a QA/QC issue I see with lower end bicycles. It's probably much more noticeable on a fat tire bike. Here are my initial impressions after the first ride.
I rode the bike 11 miles with what I think was a fully charged battery (three bars on the indicator). The terrain was a mixture of paved bike trails, hard pack rutted out off road trails, and streets. There were some hills that nearly give me a heart attack on a regular pedal bike, not that I'm in good shape anymore following the COVID weight gain.
Motor: Lots of torque. I'm no expert with e-bikes, but was impressed with the torque off the line and up hills. I've seen others upgrade the motor, but I think this is adequate. I don't see spending another $300-400 for a few more MPH (previous posted in the thread is helpful for this point too). The only disappointment I had was it couldn't throttle me up a steep section of a trail. It's a very difficult section on a pedal bike geared down, so I'm not surprised it struggled.
Fork: Adequate, but not for off road at all. I bottomed it out terribly on the hard pack trails. It will take some minor excursions on trails if you keep it under 10-12 MPH. Anything over that and it bottoms harshly. I honestly think I broke the suspension already doing 15-20 MPH on the trails.
Brakes: Awful, just awful. I followed the break in procedure and even cleaned the rotors with brake cleaner prior to riding. I'll adjust and reassess. I might also soft wheel the rotors with a die grinder and file the pads slightly if I see any glossy areas. This is a cheap upgrade if needed. The motor's speed ability is more than the brakes can handle. That's always a nightmare on a motorcycle.
Handling: This bike has a very very light front end. On the trails, I could easily pop the front tire up going over any sort of bumps or rises in the trail (not what I'd call a jump) . There are two things I will point out with this observation. One, it wheelies easier and two, it under steers. The under steer worries me on trails and it will only be worse with a rear rack installed and loaded up. On the road, its less of an issue, but it won't like a quick turn on a wet road. This handling characteristic makes sense as the bike is long and the battery and motor sit behind the bottom bracket. The Lectric XP 2.0, based on its in frame battery, likely handles more balanced. If you watch the review of a rider taking this on the mountain bike trails, I believe the challenge the rider faced was more due to the light front end than the width of the handle bars and fat tires.
Tires: Noisy as hell on pavement. I'll get slicks if I plan to commute on this bike. Decent traction off road.
Battery Life: I throttled up and down hills, PAS 5, and generally hammered on it, and returned with the display showing full battery. The on battery indicator showed two bars. I think a reasonable commute would be doable on this range without breaking a sweat.
Fit and Finish: The seat is a better stock seat than most cheaper pedal bikes I've ridden. Upgrades are a plenty. Handle bar position is pretty high for trail riding, but otherwise okay. That's just how most of these fold up bikes seem to be designed. The one nasty thing I noticed was the handle bar rocks a little bit in the top clamp. It's a fold up, so its not going to be as firmly mounted as a bolted down stem clamp. The pedals are decent BMX style metal pedals. The controls are easy to use, although the display is very basic. The brake levers seem okay, and have nice rubber inserts. The derailleur worked okay, but I noticed some racket while riding. I think the guard is pushed up against it. Nothing pliers can't fix. It shifted through the gears okay, but I only used 6 and 7 for the entire ride. The motor has the typical RC car sound, but I don't have much to compared against. I think the front chain ring is too small for a faster commute. Once you are up to 18 MPH and PAS 4 or 5, you are racing to keep the pedals turning fast enough to match the assist. The last item I'll mention is the motor controller location. It is not water resistant at all. I do not recommend riding in the rain or even through a minor puddle. The electronics will get wet. This is the biggest design flaw I noticed. The in frame battery bikes are likely much better suited for wet weather and puddles.
Would I recommend, yes, but consider what is important to you. It's a good a multipurpose bike without a major strength or weakness.
The motor controller is at the bottom end of the battery compartment. There are two small screws that hold the black plastic part that houses the contacts. Remove the screws and carefully pull the wiring out. You'll see the motor controller stuffed in there and you'll need to pull that out carefully as it's connected to the wiring harness on the side closer to the bottom bracket. Once you pull the motor controller out get enough, you can access the yellow and green cable to disconnect without needing to disconnect any other wires. You'll need to push the harness back into the tube along with the motor controller being mindful to not pinch the cables out damage the charge port. Place the black plastic part with the contacts and fasten with the screws. Note that one screw is a wood screw style thread and the other is a machine screw. Test all the functions after reassembly (charging and power on/off).
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Just got my Groove today. Ordered July 1. Shipped from WA via FedEx sig required. FedEx guy was happy I helped him carry it onto my deck. No tax for me in AZ. Easy to assemble, just pedals, front wheel and fender, slide seat and handlebars in. Oh and bend out that derailleur guard a bit so the derailleur can move all the way out for highest gear
Took it on a 4 mile ride in my very hilly mountain neighborhood. Scared a few elk in the neighborhood. I like it. Would like to get another 5mph out of it, and want to find a rear rack that mounts up to the places already in place for a rack.
EDIT: Last night I unplugged the speed limiting connector in the speed controller compartment near the crank. Today I aired up the tires to 25psi (front was only about 7psi as it arrived) and took the bike out for a 4 mile ride. It now goes about 24.8mph on flat ground, previously was barely 20mph.
I'm on the market for a commuter bike, thought Prime day might have items of interest. Looks like Stride is the commuter bike, but Groove has the ability for folding and looks to be a smoother ride. What are people's thoughts?
I'm on the market for a commuter bike, thought Prime day might have items of interest. Looks like Stride is the commuter bike, but Groove has the ability for folding and looks to be a smoother ride. What are people's thoughts?
My thought is that I don't need a bike that folds and I don't like fat tires. I ordered a Stride.
Had it together in about an hour, only put about 5 miles on it.
Quick review: Loads of fun. Even though it's an electric bike, I still go a nice sweat going only using the pedal assist.
Accelerations and pedal assist worked great. Was able to go pretty quick up hills and fly downhills.
Breaks worked OK, I'll need to give them a little adjustment, don't think I could lock them up for a skid, but since I'm not 12 years old on a spider-bike, they'll do just fine.
Seat needs tweaking, or maybe even replaced, I still need to fine tune anything adjustable to fit my 6'1" frame.
This is my first bike of any kind in the past 30 years. I needed to get a toy that will help keep me moving. For less than a grand , this seems to fit the bill perfectly.
So far, it's great.
I'm with you, great fun and an excuse to get outdoors. Was not really sure that I was going to get into the electric bike world but desperate for a Christmas gift on a whim and to step a toe in bought the wife a Walmart Hyper Ride. She and I were immediately hooked, and I was envious that I did not have one. We took a ride a few weeks ago with her on her electric and me on my regular bike and it was kind of miserable for me. Flat roads were not bad, but we hit some good hills and she just breezed up them like nothing with me huffing and panting far behind. We are getting to the age where while still needing exercise you have to watch that you don't kill yourself or wear out permanently and badly some part of your body that is already worn out as is. And what do you know SD comes through like it seems to always do with this deal. I think ebikes are going to do the opposite of what some people think. The very active and outdoor types are going to get their exercise anyway, but we may now have someone that may have a disability or weakness of some sort be able to get out and get some exercise that does not exacerbate a problem. It actually opens up opportunities to me to get out and to places where I may not be able to peddle to and still get the right amount of exercise without wearing myself out to the point where the day and my body just bring pain and misery.
I'm on the market for a commuter bike, thought Prime day might have items of interest. Looks like Stride is the commuter bike, but Groove has the ability for folding and looks to be a smoother ride. What are people's thoughts?
Groove is mainly for someone commuting in a city. A standard bike is too big and conspicuous to really bring to work. Groove is much better for trains and other tight spaces.
Purchased the Stride model on 7/1, delivered 7/10. Packaged very well. Assembly took ~1 hr, very user-friendly compared to building a regular bike from a box. Overall - very pleased with this item as an entry-level
I bike commute a lot, and this is my first e-bike. I'm hooked.
I cannot speak to this model compared to other e-bikes, but i was never a gear-head for bicycle components. The user experience is that it just works.
I rode 10 miles each way to my new job, and the battery held out - i never really had to pedal at all. Easy to pop out the battery and re-charge. Hope it lasts!! Tubeless tires are great - solves the worst problem of cycling in general, the old flat tire. Life changing difference. Shock absorbers make it extremely comfy - but i mostly switched them off for tighter handling and better performance. Freebies (foot pump, lock & chain, phone holder, etc) are surprisingly great quality.
I was on crowded bike paths - i had to slow down constantly in order to be safe and respectful, so the existing speed limit is perfect.
If I were darting around the city or drag-racing down empty roads, the bike would be too slow and cumbersome.
Urban delivery guys have a good use case, but i can't imagine bike couriers using these. For commuters it's a no-brainer
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Groove delivered and assembled today. Some observations to add to prior reviewers in this thread:
- The throttle has an extremely annoying safety cutoff. After being held for ~5 seconds the bike will completely turn off and need to be restarted by holding the power button for a few seconds. There's no warning that this happens so multiple times I didn't realize until I looked down at a blank display. It won't remember what assist mode you were in when it cut out, forcing you to fumble-f*** with it for several more seconds while already in motion. I got used to it after a while and started throttling up to 20mph and cruising. Truthfully the motor doesn't add anything at this speed anyway so releasing the throttle is probably just good practice for battery life. Also the throttle doesn't work at all in assistance level 0.
- My handlebar stem was welded 5 degrees off-axis. This has no effect on the operation of the bike but looks and feels cheap. Since it's a proprietary stem that's been welded I can't replace with some generic piece off Amazon. I've emailed customer service about it with some pictures so we'll see if they ship me a new one. Photos here[imgur.com].
- Motor torque is much more responsive than my brother's more expensive Aventon Adventure and much stronger from a full-stop. This feels safer and more intuitive. However even in top gear the pedals are not able to contribute any meaningful torque to the rear wheel once you pass ~16mph. If you want some kind of workout you need to leave the bike in level 1 assistance and resist using the throttle. Once you go higher the Groove feels more like a skeletal moped than a powered bicycle and the pedals become vestigial bodies that exist only for legal reasons.
- Ergonomics are awful for off-roading. Suspension bottoms immediately and the seat is rock solid. Tires were at 10 PSI out of the box and I was only able to inflate them to 15 PSI before my compressor battery died — at the recommended 30 PSI it'll be even worse.. I'll probably use the bike more as a street bike and stand on the pedals for the rare occasions that I off-road to use my legs as shock absorbers. If you're considering a Groove for trails I strongly recommend upgrading to an Aventon or similar.
- I can see why experienced MTX bikers would hate these brakes but they work well enough. I probably won't replace them. The knobby tires are pretty loud on asphalt too but not much worse than wind at 20mph.
- I took my 20lb Shiba Inu with me in a backpack and she had a blast.
After my first ride I've ordered a replacement seat[amazon.com] and one left-hand rear-view mirror[amazon.com] that I plan on mounting upside-down. I'm strongly considering a rack so I can buy some groceries or drop off Amazon returns and have some fun doing it.
The Assembly of the bike was easy. Though I have two issues to which Gen3 has not responded.
1. The front rotor is brushing the inside fork.
2. Battery indicator on the battery is not working.
The bike is very easy to ride even with the motor turned off. I rode for a couple of minutes thinking I turned it on while the PAS was at 0 and I felt it was so easy to ride. The motor gives a lot of torque from a standstill and they should have smoothened the initial power delivery a bit, especially with the cadence sensor delay. Not sure whether they can/will do firmware updates. The throttle control push button is not that easy to modulate and you need to be careful when using it. My use case will be different as my plan is to use the assist when I am too tired and for those steep hills only at moderate speeds.
For $899, it is a well-made bike, feels very solid. My other bike is a Trek FX2 with hydraulic brakes and I think e-bikes should come with hydraulic brakes as standard.
Purchased the Stride model on 7/1, delivered 7/10. Packaged very well. Assembly took ~1 hr, very user-friendly compared to building a regular bike from a box. Overall - very pleased with this item as an entry-level
I bike commute a lot, and this is my first e-bike. I'm hooked.
I cannot speak to this model compared to other e-bikes, but i was never a gear-head for bicycle components. The user experience is that it just works.
I rode 10 miles each way to my new job, and the battery held out - i never really had to pedal at all. Easy to pop out the battery and re-charge. Hope it lasts!! Tubeless tires are great - solves the worst problem of cycling in general, the old flat tire. Life changing difference. Shock absorbers make it extremely comfy - but i mostly switched them off for tighter handling and better performance. Freebies (foot pump, lock & chain, phone holder, etc) are surprisingly great quality.
I was on crowded bike paths - i had to slow down constantly in order to be safe and respectful, so the existing speed limit is perfect.
If I were darting around the city or drag-racing down empty roads, the bike would be too slow and cumbersome.
Urban delivery guys have a good use case, but i can't imagine bike couriers using these. For commuters it's a no-brainer
The Assembly of the bike was easy. Though I have two issues to which Gen3 has not responded.
1. The front rotor is brushing the inside fork.
2. Battery indicator on the battery is not working.
The bike is very easy to ride even with the motor turned off. I rode for a couple of minutes thinking I turned it on while the PAS was at 0 and I felt it was so easy to ride. The motor gives a lot of torque from a standstill and they should have smoothened the initial power delivery a bit, especially with the cadence sensor delay. Not sure whether they can/will do firmware updates. The throttle control push button is not that easy to modulate and you need to be careful when using it. My use case will be different as my plan is to use the assist when I am too tired and for those steep hills only at moderate speeds.
For $899, it is a well-made bike, feels very solid. My other bike is a Trek FX2 with hydraulic brakes and I think e-bikes should come with hydraulic brakes as standard.
For the battery indicator to work on my Stride, I have to turn off the digital display head unit, then pressing on the battery indicator on the battery, I will get a light that is colored based on the charge level. It is one or the other for me, either I get battery display on the head unit, or on the battery. If the bike is off the battery indicator on the battery works fine for me.
The Assembly of the bike was easy. Though I have two issues to which Gen3 has not responded.
1. The front rotor is brushing the inside fork.
2. Battery indicator on the battery is not working.
The bike is very easy to ride even with the motor turned off. I rode for a couple of minutes thinking I turned it on while the PAS was at 0 and I felt it was so easy to ride. The motor gives a lot of torque from a standstill and they should have smoothened the initial power delivery a bit, especially with the cadence sensor delay. Not sure whether they can/will do firmware updates. The throttle control push button is not that easy to modulate and you need to be careful when using it. My use case will be different as my plan is to use the assist when I am too tired and for those steep hills only at moderate speeds.
For $899, it is a well-made bike, feels very solid. My other bike is a Trek FX2 with hydraulic brakes and I think e-bikes should come with hydraulic brakes as standard.
I spoke to Gen3 about bent front rotors on my Stride and Outcross. They said it was normal and I should buy a rotor truing tool. I decided to replace the front rotor on both bikes because I believe the real issue is they are too cheap. I think they should have upgraded the brakes on these bikes instead of dropping another $100 off the price, but I doubt that would have resulted in as much sales. Other than that, I am happy with the bikes. We have about 150 miles on them now.
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Package arrived today 7/5 via FedEx
It took me about 35 minutes to assemble (I am experienced so take that into account)
*One odd issue was the derailleur protector needed to be bent outwards to allow the bike to shift into lower gears. There was a tag zip-tied to the derailleur to let you know that this step might need to be done.
*Another tip, the disc brakes cable needed to be tightened to create a better stopping power with less effort. There was no warping of rotors or any issues with brakes.
The build quality and parts were much better than I had anticipated for a $900 e-bike considering the price for a replacement battery is $350, they did a good job with the other parts to keep the price down. I was pleasantly surprised to see the Bafang motor which are high quality motors specified as well as the entry level Shimano shifter.
I had test ridden a friend's similar model (KBO Breeze) to the Stride but with a 750W motor and 50miles range, the motor was almost too powerful and the bike was heavier making it a bit unwieldy at first, I like how the 500w on the Stride doesn't make you feel unsafe as you take-off, the 750w was a bit extreme. This is our first e-bike so the 20 mph top end seemed like a good place to start. My son an my wife both tested the bike after I safety checked it and both commented on how much they liked it and it was great to se a big smile on my wife's face as she returned to the driveway after her test ride of her new bike.
KBO Breeze for comparison: https://kbobike.com/products/step...uting-bike
In Summary, at $900 I believe there are not many options in the market that will come close to the value of this bike. I am very exited that my wife will now be more willing to ride with the family when we go on bike cruises. She was reluctant to go as we (me and the boys) were 'too fast' and always felt like she was holding us up. Now we will probably be the ones holding her up
About me: I have 13 bikes at my house between my wife and children. I have been working on bikes for about 15 years as a hobby, and necessity, with my small fleet of bikes. I have bikes ranging from about $450-$5600 (Ibis Ripmo Carbon Fox Factory).
I rode the bike 11 miles with what I think was a fully charged battery (three bars on the indicator). The terrain was a mixture of paved bike trails, hard pack rutted out off road trails, and streets. There were some hills that nearly give me a heart attack on a regular pedal bike, not that I'm in good shape anymore following the COVID weight gain.
Motor: Lots of torque. I'm no expert with e-bikes, but was impressed with the torque off the line and up hills. I've seen others upgrade the motor, but I think this is adequate. I don't see spending another $300-400 for a few more MPH (previous posted in the thread is helpful for this point too). The only disappointment I had was it couldn't throttle me up a steep section of a trail. It's a very difficult section on a pedal bike geared down, so I'm not surprised it struggled.
Fork: Adequate, but not for off road at all. I bottomed it out terribly on the hard pack trails. It will take some minor excursions on trails if you keep it under 10-12 MPH. Anything over that and it bottoms harshly. I honestly think I broke the suspension already doing 15-20 MPH on the trails.
Brakes: Awful, just awful. I followed the break in procedure and even cleaned the rotors with brake cleaner prior to riding. I'll adjust and reassess. I might also soft wheel the rotors with a die grinder and file the pads slightly if I see any glossy areas. This is a cheap upgrade if needed. The motor's speed ability is more than the brakes can handle. That's always a nightmare on a motorcycle.
Handling: This bike has a very very light front end. On the trails, I could easily pop the front tire up going over any sort of bumps or rises in the trail (not what I'd call a jump) . There are two things I will point out with this observation. One, it wheelies easier and two, it under steers. The under steer worries me on trails and it will only be worse with a rear rack installed and loaded up. On the road, its less of an issue, but it won't like a quick turn on a wet road. This handling characteristic makes sense as the bike is long and the battery and motor sit behind the bottom bracket. The Lectric XP 2.0, based on its in frame battery, likely handles more balanced. If you watch the review of a rider taking this on the mountain bike trails, I believe the challenge the rider faced was more due to the light front end than the width of the handle bars and fat tires.
Tires: Noisy as hell on pavement. I'll get slicks if I plan to commute on this bike. Decent traction off road.
Battery Life: I throttled up and down hills, PAS 5, and generally hammered on it, and returned with the display showing full battery. The on battery indicator showed two bars. I think a reasonable commute would be doable on this range without breaking a sweat.
Fit and Finish: The seat is a better stock seat than most cheaper pedal bikes I've ridden. Upgrades are a plenty. Handle bar position is pretty high for trail riding, but otherwise okay. That's just how most of these fold up bikes seem to be designed. The one nasty thing I noticed was the handle bar rocks a little bit in the top clamp. It's a fold up, so its not going to be as firmly mounted as a bolted down stem clamp. The pedals are decent BMX style metal pedals. The controls are easy to use, although the display is very basic. The brake levers seem okay, and have nice rubber inserts. The derailleur worked okay, but I noticed some racket while riding. I think the guard is pushed up against it. Nothing pliers can't fix. It shifted through the gears okay, but I only used 6 and 7 for the entire ride. The motor has the typical RC car sound, but I don't have much to compared against. I think the front chain ring is too small for a faster commute. Once you are up to 18 MPH and PAS 4 or 5, you are racing to keep the pedals turning fast enough to match the assist. The last item I'll mention is the motor controller location. It is not water resistant at all. I do not recommend riding in the rain or even through a minor puddle. The electronics will get wet. This is the biggest design flaw I noticed. The in frame battery bikes are likely much better suited for wet weather and puddles.
Would I recommend, yes, but consider what is important to you. It's a good a multipurpose bike without a major strength or weakness.
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Took it on a 4 mile ride in my very hilly mountain neighborhood. Scared a few elk in the neighborhood. I like it. Would like to get another 5mph out of it, and want to find a rear rack that mounts up to the places already in place for a rack.
EDIT: Last night I unplugged the speed limiting connector in the speed controller compartment near the crank. Today I aired up the tires to 25psi (front was only about 7psi as it arrived) and took the bike out for a 4 mile ride. It now goes about 24.8mph on flat ground, previously was barely 20mph.
Also found a rear rack for the Groove here https://amzn.to/3bXkxns
Had it together in about an hour, only put about 5 miles on it.
Quick review: Loads of fun. Even though it's an electric bike, I still go a nice sweat going only using the pedal assist.
Accelerations and pedal assist worked great. Was able to go pretty quick up hills and fly downhills.
Breaks worked OK, I'll need to give them a little adjustment, don't think I could lock them up for a skid, but since I'm not 12 years old on a spider-bike, they'll do just fine.
Seat needs tweaking, or maybe even replaced, I still need to fine tune anything adjustable to fit my 6'1" frame.
This is my first bike of any kind in the past 30 years. I needed to get a toy that will help keep me moving. For less than a grand , this seems to fit the bill perfectly.
So far, it's great.
Overall - very pleased with this item as an entry-level
I bike commute a lot, and this is my first e-bike. I'm hooked.
I cannot speak to this model compared to other e-bikes, but i was never a gear-head for bicycle components. The user experience is that it just works.
I rode 10 miles each way to my new job, and the battery held out - i never really had to pedal at all. Easy to pop out the battery and re-charge. Hope it lasts!!
Tubeless tires are great - solves the worst problem of cycling in general, the old flat tire. Life changing difference.
Shock absorbers make it extremely comfy - but i mostly switched them off for tighter handling and better performance.
Freebies (foot pump, lock & chain, phone holder, etc) are surprisingly great quality.
I was on crowded bike paths - i had to slow down constantly in order to be safe and respectful, so the existing speed limit is perfect.
If I were darting around the city or drag-racing down empty roads, the bike would be too slow and cumbersome.
Urban delivery guys have a good use case, but i can't imagine bike couriers using these. For commuters it's a no-brainer
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- The throttle has an extremely annoying safety cutoff. After being held for ~5 seconds the bike will completely turn off and need to be restarted by holding the power button for a few seconds. There's no warning that this happens so multiple times I didn't realize until I looked down at a blank display. It won't remember what assist mode you were in when it cut out, forcing you to fumble-f*** with it for several more seconds while already in motion. I got used to it after a while and started throttling up to 20mph and cruising. Truthfully the motor doesn't add anything at this speed anyway so releasing the throttle is probably just good practice for battery life. Also the throttle doesn't work at all in assistance level 0.
- My handlebar stem was welded 5 degrees off-axis. This has no effect on the operation of the bike but looks and feels cheap. Since it's a proprietary stem that's been welded I can't replace with some generic piece off Amazon. I've emailed customer service about it with some pictures so we'll see if they ship me a new one. Photos here [imgur.com].
- Motor torque is much more responsive than my brother's more expensive Aventon Adventure and much stronger from a full-stop. This feels safer and more intuitive. However even in top gear the pedals are not able to contribute any meaningful torque to the rear wheel once you pass ~16mph. If you want some kind of workout you need to leave the bike in level 1 assistance and resist using the throttle. Once you go higher the Groove feels more like a skeletal moped than a powered bicycle and the pedals become vestigial bodies that exist only for legal reasons.
- Ergonomics are awful for off-roading. Suspension bottoms immediately and the seat is rock solid. Tires were at 10 PSI out of the box and I was only able to inflate them to 15 PSI before my compressor battery died — at the recommended 30 PSI it'll be even worse.. I'll probably use the bike more as a street bike and stand on the pedals for the rare occasions that I off-road to use my legs as shock absorbers. If you're considering a Groove for trails I strongly recommend upgrading to an Aventon or similar.
- I can see why experienced MTX bikers would hate these brakes but they work well enough. I probably won't replace them. The knobby tires are pretty loud on asphalt too but not much worse than wind at 20mph.
- I took my 20lb Shiba Inu with me in a backpack and she had a blast.
After my first ride I've ordered a replacement seat [amazon.com] and one left-hand rear-view mirror [amazon.com] that I plan on mounting upside-down. I'm strongly considering a rack so I can buy some groceries or drop off Amazon returns and have some fun doing it.
Up hill 8 to 10 mph motor almost gives up
1. The front rotor is brushing the inside fork.
2. Battery indicator on the battery is not working.
The bike is very easy to ride even with the motor turned off. I rode for a couple of minutes thinking I turned it on while the PAS was at 0 and I felt it was so easy to ride. The motor gives a lot of torque from a standstill and they should have smoothened the initial power delivery a bit, especially with the cadence sensor delay. Not sure whether they can/will do firmware updates. The throttle control push button is not that easy to modulate and you need to be careful when using it. My use case will be different as my plan is to use the assist when I am too tired and for those steep hills only at moderate speeds.
For $899, it is a well-made bike, feels very solid. My other bike is a Trek FX2 with hydraulic brakes and I think e-bikes should come with hydraulic brakes as standard.
Overall - very pleased with this item as an entry-level
I bike commute a lot, and this is my first e-bike. I'm hooked.
I cannot speak to this model compared to other e-bikes, but i was never a gear-head for bicycle components. The user experience is that it just works.
I rode 10 miles each way to my new job, and the battery held out - i never really had to pedal at all. Easy to pop out the battery and re-charge. Hope it lasts!!
Tubeless tires are great - solves the worst problem of cycling in general, the old flat tire. Life changing difference.
Shock absorbers make it extremely comfy - but i mostly switched them off for tighter handling and better performance.
Freebies (foot pump, lock & chain, phone holder, etc) are surprisingly great quality.
I was on crowded bike paths - i had to slow down constantly in order to be safe and respectful, so the existing speed limit is perfect.
If I were darting around the city or drag-racing down empty roads, the bike would be too slow and cumbersome.
Urban delivery guys have a good use case, but i can't imagine bike couriers using these. For commuters it's a no-brainer
1. The front rotor is brushing the inside fork.
2. Battery indicator on the battery is not working.
The bike is very easy to ride even with the motor turned off. I rode for a couple of minutes thinking I turned it on while the PAS was at 0 and I felt it was so easy to ride. The motor gives a lot of torque from a standstill and they should have smoothened the initial power delivery a bit, especially with the cadence sensor delay. Not sure whether they can/will do firmware updates. The throttle control push button is not that easy to modulate and you need to be careful when using it. My use case will be different as my plan is to use the assist when I am too tired and for those steep hills only at moderate speeds.
For $899, it is a well-made bike, feels very solid. My other bike is a Trek FX2 with hydraulic brakes and I think e-bikes should come with hydraulic brakes as standard.
1. The front rotor is brushing the inside fork.
2. Battery indicator on the battery is not working.
The bike is very easy to ride even with the motor turned off. I rode for a couple of minutes thinking I turned it on while the PAS was at 0 and I felt it was so easy to ride. The motor gives a lot of torque from a standstill and they should have smoothened the initial power delivery a bit, especially with the cadence sensor delay. Not sure whether they can/will do firmware updates. The throttle control push button is not that easy to modulate and you need to be careful when using it. My use case will be different as my plan is to use the assist when I am too tired and for those steep hills only at moderate speeds.
For $899, it is a well-made bike, feels very solid. My other bike is a Trek FX2 with hydraulic brakes and I think e-bikes should come with hydraulic brakes as standard.
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