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Jul 02, 2022 04:23 AM
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BlackLotus777Jul 02, 2022 04:23 AM
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I don't get the VA panels listed for gaming. TN and IPS have much better response times, which helps and matters with higher refresh rates. Which is what you typically want to aim for with a gaming monitor.

I suppose casual gaming, but then I dunno, does it have to be marketed for gaming? Most any panel will do for that.

I feel VA is more reserved for media type stuff.
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Jul 02, 2022 11:16 AM
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VeeTeeFJul 02, 2022 11:16 AM
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Quote from BlackLotus777 :
I don't get the VA panels listed for gaming. TN and IPS have much better response times, which helps and matters with higher refresh rates. Which is what you typically want to aim for with a gaming monitor.

I suppose casual gaming, but then I dunno, does it have to be marketed for gaming? Most any panel will do for that.

I feel VA is more reserved for media type stuff.
6ms seems like a fine response time for anybody not playing a competitive fps at a high level of skill (aka the vast majority of gamers).
Jul 02, 2022 12:02 PM
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DealchorJul 02, 2022 12:02 PM
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I'm looking for a monitor for office work. Need a WQHD for under $200. Does anyone have experience with this or know if this a good option?
Jul 02, 2022 12:06 PM
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mekkisJul 02, 2022 12:06 PM
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Quote from Dealchor :
I'm looking for a monitor for office work. Need a WQHD for under $200. Does anyone have experience with this or know if this a good option?
I have no experience with this monitor, but I have one of their 35" ultrawides and am very happy with it. I am super tempted to buy this one to have a panel flipped on its side for viewing manuals/comics/etc.
Jul 02, 2022 12:16 PM
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blckgrffnJul 02, 2022 12:16 PM
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Quote from mekkis :
I have no experience with this monitor, but I have one of their 35" ultrawides and am very happy with it. I am super tempted to buy this one to have a panel flipped on its side for viewing manuals/comics/etc.
I think the curve would make that pretty awkward…
Jul 02, 2022 12:18 PM
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mekkisJul 02, 2022 12:18 PM
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Quote from blckgrffn :
I think the curve would make that pretty awkward…
It works just like the curve when flipped normally. I have a curved 24" pulling sideways duty presently it's just a bit small.
Jul 02, 2022 12:55 PM
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Nathan2016Jul 02, 2022 12:55 PM
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Quote from BlackLotus777 :
I don't get the VA panels listed for gaming. TN and IPS have much better response times, which helps and matters with higher refresh rates. Which is what you typically want to aim for with a gaming monitor.

I suppose casual gaming, but then I dunno, does it have to be marketed for gaming? Most any panel will do for that.

I feel VA is more reserved for media type stuff.
I've never understood people thinking they can tell the difference in response time. Also the advertised response time is not what you think it is. The advertised time is only how long it takes the pixels to change. It is not how long it takes for your input to show. The actual response time is going to be much longer than the 1ms many monitors advertise.

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Jul 02, 2022 02:10 PM
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GlenC3825Jul 02, 2022 02:10 PM
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Quote from Dealchor :
I'm looking for a monitor for office work. Need a WQHD for under $200. Does anyone have experience with this or know if this a good option?
Yup..great monitor, great price...and my clients love them
Jul 02, 2022 05:00 PM
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YourFriendJeffJul 02, 2022 05:00 PM
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Seems like a good deal. Can anyone recommend a better monitor AROUND the same price point?
Jul 02, 2022 06:14 PM
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zgradtJul 02, 2022 06:14 PM
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Quote from BlackLotus777 :
I don't get the VA panels listed for gaming. TN and IPS have much better response times, which helps and matters with higher refresh rates. Which is what you typically want to aim for with a gaming monitor.

I suppose casual gaming, but then I dunno, does it have to be marketed for gaming? Most any panel will do for that.

I feel VA is more reserved for media type stuff.
I have a 165 hz VA panel in my Dell monitor. The response doesn't seem as good as my old 144 hz TN panel, and the viewing angles are equally bad. At least the colors and brightness are a lot better. VA is the new bargain panel.
Jul 02, 2022 10:15 PM
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BlackLotus777Jul 02, 2022 10:15 PM
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Quote from Nathan2016 :
I've never understood people thinking they can tell the difference in response time. Also the advertised response time is not what you think it is. The advertised time is only how long it takes the pixels to change. It is not how long it takes for your input to show. The actual response time is going to be much longer than the 1ms many monitors advertise.
Ok...

As you get into higher refresh rates and play fast paced games, it's noticeable with ghosting. Your eye is pretty keen overall.

And, don't kill me if I'm wrong on this panel as I'm not going to find it again, but the response time is usually grey to grey. Some have started advertising more detail about response time.

I'm fully aware of what the response time measures and that it's outside all the other inputs. But again, there's things always looking to reduce the latency at all stages - Nvidia newer GPUs have the Reflex tech that's helping to reduce input lag. It all adds up.
Jul 02, 2022 10:22 PM
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BlackLotus777Jul 02, 2022 10:22 PM
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Quote from VeeTeeF :
6ms seems like a fine response time for anybody not playing a competitive fps at a high level of skill (aka the vast majority of gamers).
The vast majority of gamers? I mean, there's not a massive player base between Warzone, PubG, Fortnite, Destiny 2, Overwatch, Apex, and so on?

You don't have to be at a high level of skill for ghosting to show up. Also, each person is different, but motion blur is super annoying to me and makes it unfun. I've always reached for monitors with lowest response times at the time of purchase.
Jul 06, 2022 06:47 PM
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YourFriendJeffJul 06, 2022 06:47 PM
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I ordered this monitor on Sat 7/02. Said it would be delivered today, but doesn't even have a tracking number yet so it appears the order hasn't been filled.

I've had time to 2nd guess my purchase & wanted to ask this brilliant collective a few questions, because I am not as smart as all of you:
Is 'Maximum Brightness 400cd/m2' equivalent to 400 nits?

I'm also learning that this a VA monitor vs IPS & read up on that here [tomshardware.com].
❓Any opinions on returning this VA panel & going for an IPS like the 27" Acer Predator XB3 IPS WQHD 165Hz Gaming Monitor (Refurbished) $202.39 to get a lower response time, brighter screen & better viewing angles? (says deal is expired but still works)
❓How does that refurbished Acer compare to this 27" Acer Predator XB271HU WQHD 1440p 144Hz NVIDIA G-SYNC IPS Monitor @$290 [amazon.com]?

Also, this Monoprice monitor has none of the syncs, G-Sync, Free Sync, Kitchen Sync . . .
❓How much does that matter while gaming on a monitor like this?

I recently bought the Lenovo Legion 5i Pro Gen 6 Laptop, which has an 16.0" IPS panel (2560 x 1600, 165Hz, 500 nits, 3ms response, i7-11800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB) & would like to upgrade my monitor to be a similar experience.

❓Any recommendations for a comparable monitor at a similar price point?
27" GIGABYTE G27Q 1440p IPS 144Hz 1ms FreeSync HDR400 Gaming Monitor @ $239.99
This 27" 1440p 144hz G-Sync LG 27GL83A-B QHD IPS 1ms NVIDIA G-SYNC @$250 [ksl.com] in my local classifieds?
Or this 27" Acer Gaming Monitor 1440p 144hz VG271U @$200 [ksl.com] in my local classifieds?
Or perhaps this 27" ASUS Tuf 1440p 165hz Gaming Monitor @$200 [ksl.com], also local?
Last edited by YourFriendJeff July 6, 2022 at 12:11 PM.
Jul 07, 2022 11:50 PM
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SoggyPronounJul 07, 2022 11:50 PM
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Quote from YourFriendJeff :
I ordered this monitor on Sat 7/02. Said it would be delivered today, but doesn't even have a tracking number yet so it appears the order hasn't been filled.

I've had time to 2nd guess my purchase & wanted to ask this brilliant collective a few questions, because I am not as smart as all of you:
Is 'Maximum Brightness 400cd/m2' equivalent to 400 nits?

I'm also learning that this a VA monitor vs IPS & read up on that here [tomshardware.com].
❓Any opinions on returning this VA panel & going for an IPS like the 27" Acer Predator XB3 IPS WQHD 165Hz Gaming Monitor (Refurbished) $202.39 to get a lower response time, brighter screen & better viewing angles? (says deal is expired but still works)
❓How does that refurbished Acer compare to this 27" Acer Predator XB271HU WQHD 1440p 144Hz NVIDIA G-SYNC IPS Monitor @$290 [amazon.com]?

Also, this Monoprice monitor has none of the syncs, G-Sync, Free Sync, Kitchen Sync . . .
❓How much does that matter while gaming on a monitor like this?

I recently bought the Lenovo Legion 5i Pro Gen 6 Laptop, which has an 16.0" IPS panel (2560 x 1600, 165Hz, 500 nits, 3ms response, i7-11800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB) & would like to upgrade my monitor to be a similar experience.

❓Any recommendations for a comparable monitor at a similar price point?
27" GIGABYTE G27Q 1440p IPS 144Hz 1ms FreeSync HDR400 Gaming Monitor @ $239.99
This 27" 1440p 144hz G-Sync LG 27GL83A-B QHD IPS 1ms NVIDIA G-SYNC @$250 [ksl.com] in my local classifieds?
Or this 27" Acer Gaming Monitor 1440p 144hz VG271U @$200 [ksl.com] in my local classifieds?
Or perhaps this 27" ASUS Tuf 1440p 165hz Gaming Monitor @$200 [ksl.com], also local?
Mine hasn't shipped yet either... has anyone's?

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Jul 08, 2022 09:38 PM
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YourFriendJeffJul 08, 2022 09:38 PM
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Quote from SoggyPronoun :
Mine hasn't shipped yet either... has anyone's?
Mine arrived today. I was planning on refusing delivery so I could return it as I bought the LG 27GL83A-B, but delivery didn't even knock. Just left it on the porch.

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