Pulsar 12000 Watt Dual Fuel Push Button Start Power Generator $799+$49.97 shipping(reg $979)

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LTD2019

Jul 09, 2022 02:25 AM

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LTD2019Jul 09, 2022 02:25 AM

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To some who are looking for the THD. From my search, the manufacturer does not list the THD. Some guy said that he talked with a manufacturer rep and they stated "THD of 5-7 %..." Which is good for a non-inverter, if true.

bangher

Jul 09, 2022 10:03 AM

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bangherJul 09, 2022 10:03 AM

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Quote from kinniskol87

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Dual Fuel
-2,000 Watt Peak/ 9,500 Watt Rated (Gasoline) & 10,800W Peak/ 8,550W Rated (LPG)
-457cc, OHV Engine, CARB Approved
-(4) 120V Outlets, (1) 120/240V Twist lock Outlet, (1) 120/240V 50 Amp RV Outlet, & (1) 12V DC Output
-Switch & Go Capability with Electric Push Start and Recoil Back-up
-3 in 1 Digital Meter, drop-down Handles, and 10" never flat Wheels

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pulsar.../695477131

OP, you have the gasoline peak Watts wrong
"OHV engine produces 12,000 peak watts/9,500 running watts on gasoline"

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BlueHaddock4722

Jul 09, 2022 12:51 PM

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BlueHaddock4722Jul 09, 2022 12:51 PM

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Quote from LTD2019

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To some who are looking for the THD. From my search, the manufacturer does not list the THD. Some guy said that he talked with a manufacturer rep and they stated "THD of 5-7 %..." Which is good for a non-inverter, if true.

Actually that is fantastic for a non-inverter which makes me doubt the accuracy. If the THD was that low, I'd bet they'd advertise it.

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ScottTX

Jul 09, 2022 02:51 PM

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ScottTXJul 09, 2022 02:51 PM

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I have this generator. It's is well built for the price.

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PlayMineCraft

Jul 09, 2022 04:55 PM

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PlayMineCraftJul 09, 2022 04:55 PM

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$49.97 for freight shipping Frown

Xxxfrogg

Jul 09, 2022 09:06 PM

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XxxfroggJul 09, 2022 09:06 PM

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Quote from BlueHaddock4722

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Actually that is fantastic for a non-inverter which makes me doubt the accuracy. If the THD was that low, I'd bet they'd advertise it.

There seems to be a misconception out there that you need to get an inverter generator in order to get a THD of 5% or lower. That is not the case. The THD is a function of the generator head physical design for non inverter generators. It costs more to replicate a pure sin wave (low THD) or it is cheaper to give a good approximation of a sin wave(higher THD). Generators that stay below a THD of 5% clearly advertise it. In my opinion, a 5% to 8% THD is a good sweet spot between cheap design vs an expensive design. The downside of getting THD values from hearsay is you don't known if its true or at what loading value it was measured from.

In my opinion, you get an inverter generator ONLY for the quietness of it with the added benefit of low THD.

At larger load capacity, it is typically cheaper to get non inverter generator with advertised low THD below 5% if that matters to you.

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BlueHaddock4722

Jul 09, 2022 09:10 PM

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BlueHaddock4722Jul 09, 2022 09:10 PM

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Quote from Xxxfrogg

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There seems to be a misconception out there that you need to get an inverter generator in order to get a THD of 5% or lower. That is not the case. The THD is a function of the generator head physical design for non inverter generators. It costs more to replicate a pure sin wave (low THD) or it is cheaper to give a good approximation of a sin wave(higher THD). Generators that stay below a THD of 5% clearly advertise it. In my opinion, a 5% to 8% THD is a good sweet spot between cheap design vs an expensive design. The downside of getting THD values from hearsay is you don't known if its true or at what loading value it was measured from.

In my opinion, you get an inverter generator ONLY for the quietness of it with the added benefit of low THD.

At larger load capacity, it is typically cheaper to get non inverter generator with advertised low THD below 5% if that matters to you.

It's definitely given too much emphasis. I have a Generac and they told me that they don't publish the THD when it's above 20% I think. I've had it run TVs, computers, routers, etc without ever having a hiccup.

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kinniskol87

Original Poster

Jul 09, 2022 11:44 PM

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kinniskol87

Original Poster

Jul 09, 2022 11:44 PM

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Quote from bangher

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OP, you have the gasoline peak Watts wrong
"OHV engine produces 12,000 peak watts/9,500 running watts on gasoline"

Whoops thanks for the heads up

ripeningmango

Jul 14, 2022 09:36 PM

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ripeningmangoJul 14, 2022 09:36 PM

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Quote from LTD2019

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To some who are looking for the THD. From my search, the manufacturer does not list the THD. Some guy said that he talked with a manufacturer rep and they stated "THD of 5-7 %..." Which is good for a non-inverter, if true.

Quote from BlueHaddock4722

:

Actually that is fantastic for a non-inverter which makes me doubt the accuracy. If the THD was that low, I'd bet they'd advertise it.

Quote from Xxxfrogg

:

There seems to be a misconception out there that you need to get an inverter generator in order to get a THD of 5% or lower. That is not the case. The THD is a function of the generator head physical design for non inverter generators. It costs more to replicate a pure sin wave (low THD) or it is cheaper to give a good approximation of a sin wave(higher THD). Generators that stay below a THD of 5% clearly advertise it. In my opinion, a 5% to 8% THD is a good sweet spot between cheap design vs an expensive design. The downside of getting THD values from hearsay is you don't known if its true or at what loading value it was measured from.

In my opinion, you get an inverter generator ONLY for the quietness of it with the added benefit of low THD.

At larger load capacity, it is typically cheaper to get non inverter generator with advertised low THD below 5% if that matters to you.

Seems that there is no difference between the two Pulsar models (G12KBN and PG12000B) according to Generator Bible. If you check reviews on both, you'll find the same information that seems to indicate the relatively low THD is true.

https://generatorbible.com/genera...ar/g12kbn/ - people reference a less than 1% THD during their own testing "extremely low sine wave >1% at 120v measured at furthest outlet in a 2000 sq ft home running whole house in winter"

https://generatorbible.com/genera.../pg12000b/ - another guy who called the mfr and got the same answer 3x that it's between 5-7% THD "this generator was a THD of 5-7 % (not listed but called manufacturer techs 3 different times to make sure of the THD)"

BTW I've read that THD values are usually measured at 50% load so this is my assumption that the 5-7% range is measured at 50% on the Pulsar as well. Good thing to keep in mind if you're going to be pulling much higher loads that the THD values may become higher as well.

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DavidR7

Jul 18, 2022 01:07 PM

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DavidR7Jul 18, 2022 01:07 PM

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I've decided to pull the trigger on this thing. I'll report back if it's crap. Possibly looking at 10 days for delivery. 🤞🏼

checcles

Jul 19, 2022 12:25 AM

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checclesJul 19, 2022 12:25 AM

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This and return the Firman 3200W Running / 4000W Peak Dual Fuel Inverter Generator I got? Looking for hurricane home backup.

(https://www.costco.com/firman-320...43922.html)

hollowpockets

Jul 19, 2022 03:35 AM

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hollowpocketsJul 19, 2022 03:35 AM

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Back to 899 + freight

doodlar

Aug 25, 2022 02:33 PM

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doodlarAug 25, 2022 02:33 PM

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Quote from checcles

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This and return the Firman 3200W Running / 4000W Peak Dual Fuel Inverter Generator I got? Looking for hurricane home backup.

(https://www.costco.com/firman-320...43922.html)

Hi! I am in the same boat, though I haven't bought the Firman at Costco yet. I am looking for something with a bit more power that is duel fuel for my home. While the Firman is an inverter and also has the nice Costco return factor, I think I might go with the larger generator for more power overhead. Though, I will have to build some sort of shed to decrease the noise level for this Pulsar generator if I go this route.

Decisions, decisions! EEK!

Product Description:	Pulsar PG12000B dual fuel portable generator was built to keep you out of the dark during the next power outage. The dual fuel feature with the ability to run on gasoline or liquid propane to provide you with more options and peace of mind in the event of a natural disaster. It’s 457cc, single cylinder, 4 stroke, OHV engine produces 12,000 peak watts/9,500 running watts on gasoline and 10,800 peak watts/8,550 running watts on LPG. The extended run time and output make it an ideal source of backup power for running large appliances and other electronic devices, so you can comfortably weather the storm. The PG12000B’s convenient switch & go technology allows you to seamlessly transition between fuel sources while in use without you missing a beat. It’s durable steel frame, 10
Manufacturer:	Pulsar Products, Inc
Product SKU:	695477131
UPC:	814726025021

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