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Acer Aspire XC Desktop (Refurb): Celeron J4125, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD

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Acer via eBay has Acer Aspire XC Desktop (Refurbished, DT.BHFAA.001) for $87.99 (price reflected in cart). Shipping is free.

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  • Intel Celeron J4125 2.00 GHz Processor
  • 4GB RAM
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 600
  • Includes Keyboard & Mouse
  • Windows 10 Home

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  • About this item:
    • This item is Certified Refurbished. It has been professionally restored by an Acer approved vendor. Units are usually cosmetically indistinguishable from New products, but some may show signs of light use. Functionally, these units are equivalent to New. Certified Refurbished units will be shipped in a New Brown Box.
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    • Free 30 day returns. Seller pays for return shipping.

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Acer via eBay has Acer Aspire XC Desktop (Refurbished, DT.BHFAA.001) for $87.99 (price reflected in cart). Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member cgigate for finding this deal.

Note, must add to cart for the sale price.

Specs
  • Intel Celeron J4125 2.00 GHz Processor
  • 4GB RAM
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 600
  • Includes Keyboard & Mouse
  • Windows 10 Home

Editor's Notes

Written by johnny_miller | Staff
  • About this item:
    • This item is Certified Refurbished. It has been professionally restored by an Acer approved vendor. Units are usually cosmetically indistinguishable from New products, but some may show signs of light use. Functionally, these units are equivalent to New. Certified Refurbished units will be shipped in a New Brown Box.
  • Returns:
    • Free 30 day returns. Seller pays for return shipping.

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Jul 15, 2022 12:32 AM
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TozmoJul 15, 2022 12:32 AM
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Quote from TheEdge View quoted comment :
I assume by "simple", you mean no 4K transcoding (for phones, etc. so I can watch my stuff on the go)?
Correct. This won't do 4k transcode (I haven't done research on it but the passmark is too low), and. you may get 1-2 mobile 1080p transcodes.

If I had a need for this, I'd use this for putting all of the low-resource containers on this with Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Ubuntu Server with Portainer, Calibre, Komga, Node-Red, VaultWarden; Xpenology VM
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Jul 15, 2022 12:57 AM
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Quote from Tozmo View quoted comment :
Correct. This won't do 4k transcode (I haven't done research on it but the passmark is too low), and. you may get 1-2 mobile 1080p transcodes.

If I had a need for this, I'd use this for putting all of the low-resource containers on this with Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Ubuntu Server with Portainer, Calibre, Komga, Node-Red, VaultWarden; Xpenology VM
"passmark is too low" compares with Gen 12 CPU that is true, but it outperforms most lower than Gen 6 i3/i5/i7 CPU
Jul 15, 2022 1:01 AM
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drjsJul 15, 2022 1:01 AM
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Quote from Tozmo View quoted comment :
Correct. This won't do 4k transcode (I haven't done research on it but the passmark is too low), and. you may get 1-2 mobile 1080p transcodes.

If I had a need for this, I'd use this for putting all of the low-resource containers on this with Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Ubuntu Server with Portainer, Calibre, Komga, Node-Red, VaultWarden; Xpenology VM
Not sure this is correct. Since it has a UDH600 onboard, transcode should be side loaded into a separate processor instead of the main CPU. If you google the subject J4125 4K transcode plex, you can see people say when set up correctly under docker, J4125 can handle 2x 4K transcode at 1.2 speed.

See this discussion [reddit.com]
Last edited by drjs July 14, 2022 at 06:03 PM.
Jul 15, 2022 1:30 AM
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TozmoJul 15, 2022 1:30 AM
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Quote from drjs View quoted comment :
Not sure this is correct. Since it has a UDH600 onboard, transcode should be side loaded into a separate processor instead of the main CPU. If you google the subject J4125 4K transcode plex, you can see people say when set up correctly under docker, J4125 can handle 2x 4K transcode at 1.2 speed.

See this discussion [reddit.com]
I'm not going to argue more than this reply: the G4900 (different generation) can't transcode 4k. If uhd600 can transcode a 4K stream (let alone 2!) then this is an even better deal than originally stated.

One way or another, if you're in the market for something in addition to a main pc, this is a good deal
Jul 15, 2022 1:34 AM
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pokymonJul 15, 2022 1:34 AM
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Does it have a dual NIC for PFSense?
Jul 15, 2022 1:37 AM
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SammyBravoJul 15, 2022 1:37 AM
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Quote from pokymon View quoted comment :
Does it have a dual NIC for PFSense?
No, it doesn't.
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Quote from cgigate View quoted comment :
Get an excuse to return and rebuy
yeah... They said it's a free return.
So I'll lift this current box to FEDEX and then wait for the new one to show up.
$20 difference.

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Jul 15, 2022 6:24 AM
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lelandJul 15, 2022 6:24 AM
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This is the y SATA power splitter [ebay.com]I am using in mine.
I have a bunch of 3-pin fan splitter at home so I didn't buy another one but something like this [ebay.com]is perfectly serviceable.

Your last question is essentially asking why use Unix vs Windows hosting. It will take a lot space to discuss but in general Unix is light weight, scales better, open source, freedom of file systems, and generally have better stability. Windows is more resource intensive, close sourced, but generally have better hardware support. There is nothing wrong with sharing disks with Windows if that is what you prefer however.
Great, thanks so much for the links. And appreciate the Unix vs. Windows comments.
Jul 15, 2022 1:19 PM
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minuteman1970Jul 15, 2022 1:19 PM
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The two units I ordered have been shipped and should arrive mid next week. I am planning to immediately add 8gb of RAM to each PC from the get-go, and based upon the helpful posts here I will be ordering the following posted by others further up this thread:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PVW2...dp_it&th=1

Any thoughts as to whether I should go ahead and order the RAM now to have it handy, or wait until I first receive the two PC's? What's the possibility that I'll receive the included 4gb RAM that won't be compatible with the TEAMGROUP sticks from Amazon?
Jul 15, 2022 2:16 PM
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drjsJul 15, 2022 2:16 PM
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Quote from minuteman1970 View quoted comment :
The two units I ordered have been shipped and should arrive mid next week. I am planning to immediately add 8gb of RAM to each PC from the get-go, and based upon the helpful posts here I will be ordering the following posted by others further up this thread:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PVW2...dp_it&th=1 [amazon.com]

Any thoughts as to whether I should go ahead and order the RAM now to have it handy, or wait until I first receive the two PC's? What's the possibility that I'll receive the included 4gb RAM that won't be compatible with the TEAMGROUP sticks from Amazon?
Having 1 slot with 4Gig, the other with 8Gig isn't a problem for my system. System booted up with 12 Gig in BIOS and two OSs reports 12 Gigs on board (Linux and Windows).
Jul 15, 2022 2:25 PM
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TheBigCPabsterJul 15, 2022 2:25 PM
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J4125 based devices all seem on fire sale. Must be a new model now. What's the modern tier comparable upgrade? This is 2019-era CPU. Also I'm not sure about performance cited in this thread. I have done some research on J4125 versus my trusty old 2015-era G4400 and it is slower in most tests, and by a fair margin. So the ones saying this is anywhere in the stratosphere of i3/i5 level performance (even older gens) I would not believe that at all.
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Jul 15, 2022 3:02 PM
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AquaGalley8616Jul 15, 2022 3:02 PM
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Quote from TheBigCPabster View quoted comment :
J4125 based devices all seem on fire sale. Must be a new model now. What's the modern tier comparable upgrade? This is 2019-era CPU. Also I'm not sure about performance cited in this thread. I have done some research on J4125 versus my trusty old 2015-era G4400 and it is slower in most tests, and by a fair margin. So the ones saying this is anywhere in the stratosphere of i3/i5 level performance (even older gens) I would not believe that at all.
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so you are posting to let us know we are being mis-lead and this pc is too old and underpowered.
And you read the posts of how people are using this device, and you rather use something else, fine.

I don't think anyone thinks this is POWER HOUSE PC for 88 dollars. But it sips power does your old 2015 Pc sip power. This has wifi 6 and bluetooth 5, does your older pc have that. This PC and be upgrade to windows 11, can your 2015 pc do that. Also all the tech since 2015 are in this too, and INTEL 600 graphics, does you 2015 have faster internal graphics. Has 2 year warranty. But keep your 2015 pc since it's your old trusty! A better question is "what has this PC have that my 2015 PC doesn't have? And is 88 dollars worth it or not?
Last edited by AquaGalley8616 July 15, 2022 at 08:05 AM.
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Jul 15, 2022 3:13 PM
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messiah_11Jul 15, 2022 3:13 PM
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Quote from TheBigCPabster View quoted comment :
J4125 based devices all seem on fire sale. Must be a new model now. What's the modern tier comparable upgrade? This is 2019-era CPU. Also I'm not sure about performance cited in this thread. I have done some research on J4125 versus my trusty old 2015-era G4400 and it is slower in most tests, and by a fair margin. So the ones saying this is anywhere in the stratosphere of i3/i5 level performance (even older gens) I would not believe that at all.
Well, the G4400 is a 54W CPU which has a benchmark score of 2593. The J4125 draws 10 watts and benches at 2984. If energy consumption isn't a factor at all, then yes, the J4125 would be comparable to your older desktop. Then again, it would also be comparable to a 2008 Xeon processor which draws 95W.

At the end of the day, if you're comparing the J4125 to an i3/i5/i7, then you should be comparing it to the low-power versions because they're a different segment of processors. With that in mind, the Intel-U chips (typically found in laptops) that have the closest benchmarks to the J4125 are the i3-7130U and the i7-5600U.
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Jul 15, 2022 3:22 PM
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TheBigCPabsterJul 15, 2022 3:22 PM
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Quote from messiah_11 View quoted comment :
Well, the G4400 is a 54W CPU which has a benchmark score of 2593. The J4125 draws 10 watts and benches at 2984. If energy consumption isn't a factor at all, then yes, the J4125 would be comparable to your older desktop. Then again, it would also be comparable to a 2008 Xeon processor which draws 95W.

At the end of the day, if you're comparing the J4125 to an i3/i5/i7, then you should be comparing it to the low-power versions because they're a different segment of processors. With that in mind, the Intel-U chips (typically found in laptops) that have the closest benchmarks to the J4125 are the i3-7130U and the i7-5600U.
Thank you for the figures. Similar to what I've seen elsewhere although it should be noted the single core performance is much better on my old G4400. On multi core stuff the J4125 is marginally faster. So depends on work loads. I realize it's a more efficient chip as would be expected. I am not saying this rig isn't worth $88 - I'm tempted to buy one just to play with. I don't need it. But wondering if it's worth the bother overall. The RAM is another consideration. I run 16GB on my old G4400. I'm wondering if 16 or even 32 would be possible on this J4125. I've seen mixed replies and opinion on that. Does anyone have experience using more than 8GB with this particular machine? I really consider 16GB to be baseline today.

Also would the N5105 be the 2022 replacement for the J4125? I'm a little behind the curve on Celerons and the low power stuff. Thank you.

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Jul 15, 2022 3:39 PM
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AquaGalley8616Jul 15, 2022 3:39 PM
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Quote from TheBigCPabster View quoted comment :
Thank you for the figures. Similar to what I've seen elsewhere although it should be noted the single core performance is much better on my old G4400. On multi core stuff the J4125 is marginally faster. So depends on work loads. I realize it's a more efficient chip as would be expected. I am not saying this rig isn't worth $88 - I'm tempted to buy one just to play with. I don't need it. But wondering if it's worth the bother overall. The RAM is another consideration. I run 16GB on my old G4400. I'm wondering if 16 or even 32 would be possible on this J4125. I've seen mixed replies and opinion on that. Does anyone have experience using more than 8GB with this particular machine? I really consider 16GB to be baseline today.

Also would the N5105 be the 2022 replacement for the J4125? I'm a little behind the curve on Celerons and the low power stuff. Thank you.
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i have not received my PC yet, but cgigate says he put 16gb in his with no problems. Check first page of thread and read the ram question. He answered it. Smilie
TheBigCPabster, you are asking the right quesitons now? This is a LAPTOP chip , Scientogy uses it still. And your first post was good too, explaining where you are coming from. Maybe research it some more, as a play project, and maybe guest PC , ... 88 dollars is cheap enough to play with. Better than a Raspberry PI , right? (no offence to people that LOVE raspberry PIE). Wink

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