Acer via eBay has
Acer Aspire XC Desktop (Refurbished, DT.BHFAA.001) for
$87.99 (price reflected in cart).
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cgigate for finding this deal.
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Specs
- Intel Celeron J4125 2.00 GHz Processor
- 4GB RAM
- 256GB Solid State Drive
- Intel UHD Graphics 600
- Includes Keyboard & Mouse
- Windows 10 Home
Top Comments
*Added another 8Gig of memory [amazon.com]to make it 12Gig total
*spliced power so I can get 2 SATA power header [ebay.com]
*spliced fan header [ebay.com]and added an 140mm fan [amazon.com]
*added a WD 80TB Red plus
*added a DVD caddy 3.5 9.7mm bay [amazon.com].
Runs absolutely like a dream at 25Ws.
Copied suggestions below for various uses.
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I have been working with this little SFF for a day now and I really enjoy using this thing and I am replying to this message on the system right now. The fan is virtually silent and power draw is max 15W on my killawatt (I removed DVD drive).
I have seen a lot of questions on this forum about what this thing is good for. I thought to provide my perspective on the subject and elaborate on various use cases for this little thing. Again, this is one person's opinion.
Desktop replacement, Rating: Medicore
This is a mediocre use case as a desktop replacement because the limited CPU capability and memory. The system comes with 4Gig standard which will mean a lot of swapping on Windows 10 in default configuration. If you can up the memory to 8Gig, I think the use case becomes fair. It is a reasonable system for lite web page browsing, spreadsheets, email, YouTube and Netflix at 1080P. ie, this is a good system for your grandparents if usage case isn't aggressive.
Gaming setup, Rating: Poor
Expansion slot is half height, power supply is 65W, there is only a CPU fan. ie, if you want to game other than minesweeper, you should look for a beefier system, such as the one with I3 and 250W power?. Again, if you go that route, maybe Acer small form factor shouldn't be what you should consider. For reference, my current game setup has a 850w ps and about 7 fans.
NAS, Rating: Good
This thing draws less power and is quieter than my Synology 2 bay. CPU will be more powerful than my Synology with more possibility of expanding via standard PC peripherals. A two bay Synology is about $200 right now which means you can use this thing at about half the cost. With this said, there are only 2 SATA ports and no additional cooling fans and will only accommodate 1 3.5" and 1 2.5" drive without additional engineering. If you are okay dropping in a 10TB 3.5 WD Red Plus and call it good, you have an excellent use case here. If you are desperate, I suppose you can always use external USB 3.0 enclosures for additional drives. Hardware transcoding via Plex for a single 4K stream shouldn't be a huge issue since this Celeron has a UHD600 onboard.
pFsense, Gateway replacement, VPN server, PiHole etc, Rating: Excellent
What this system really excels is as an always on, minimal power, minimal noise internet relay device. I listed a couple use cases above. I am thinking moving my VPN server (both up and down streams), PiHole, and Firewall server into this thing. As given the system has more than enough resource to run Debian or BSD, never sipes more than 15Ws, generates no heat, and is virtually silent, I can see this thing sitting next to my cable modem and be the consolidating gateway machine that is currently being taken up by a Synology, a number of Rasperberri Pis. For $100, this is just a bargain you can't find equivalent elsewhere. Now the only decision is to buy another one as a backup in case this breaks. :-)
Anyways, enjoy my wall of text.
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In general, this is definitely usable as a desktop for standard users who don't need much processing power. It has a good SSD and two DDR4 SODIMM slots (up to 2400 MHz) that actually seem to support a total of 32GB RAM (even though 8GB is the official limit).
However, as an energy-efficient, always-on NAS, network server, or other appliance is where this computer really shines.
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If I had a need for this, I'd use this for putting all of the low-resource containers on this with Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Ubuntu Server with Portainer, Calibre, Komga, Node-Red, VaultWarden; Xpenology VM
If I had a need for this, I'd use this for putting all of the low-resource containers on this with Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Ubuntu Server with Portainer, Calibre, Komga, Node-Red, VaultWarden; Xpenology VM
If I had a need for this, I'd use this for putting all of the low-resource containers on this with Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Ubuntu Server with Portainer, Calibre, Komga, Node-Red, VaultWarden; Xpenology VM
See this discussion [reddit.com]
See this discussion [reddit.com]
One way or another, if you're in the market for something in addition to a main pc, this is a good deal
So I'll lift this current box to FEDEX and then wait for the new one to show up.
$20 difference.
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I have a bunch of 3-pin fan splitter at home so I didn't buy another one but something like this [ebay.com]is perfectly serviceable.
Your last question is essentially asking why use Unix vs Windows hosting. It will take a lot space to discuss but in general Unix is light weight, scales better, open source, freedom of file systems, and generally have better stability. Windows is more resource intensive, close sourced, but generally have better hardware support. There is nothing wrong with sharing disks with Windows if that is what you prefer however.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PVW2...dp_it
Any thoughts as to whether I should go ahead and order the RAM now to have it handy, or wait until I first receive the two PC's? What's the possibility that I'll receive the included 4gb RAM that won't be compatible with the TEAMGROUP sticks from Amazon?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PVW2...dp_it&th=1 [amazon.com]
Any thoughts as to whether I should go ahead and order the RAM now to have it handy, or wait until I first receive the two PC's? What's the possibility that I'll receive the included 4gb RAM that won't be compatible with the TEAMGROUP sticks from Amazon?
so you are posting to let us know we are being mis-lead and this pc is too old and underpowered.
And you read the posts of how people are using this device, and you rather use something else, fine.
I don't think anyone thinks this is POWER HOUSE PC for 88 dollars. But it sips power does your old 2015 Pc sip power. This has wifi 6 and bluetooth 5, does your older pc have that. This PC and be upgrade to windows 11, can your 2015 pc do that. Also all the tech since 2015 are in this too, and INTEL 600 graphics, does you 2015 have faster internal graphics. Has 2 year warranty. But keep your 2015 pc since it's your old trusty! A better question is "what has this PC have that my 2015 PC doesn't have? And is 88 dollars worth it or not?
At the end of the day, if you're comparing the J4125 to an i3/i5/i7, then you should be comparing it to the low-power versions because they're a different segment of processors. With that in mind, the Intel-U chips (typically found in laptops) that have the closest benchmarks to the J4125 are the i3-7130U and the i7-5600U.
At the end of the day, if you're comparing the J4125 to an i3/i5/i7, then you should be comparing it to the low-power versions because they're a different segment of processors. With that in mind, the Intel-U chips (typically found in laptops) that have the closest benchmarks to the J4125 are the i3-7130U and the i7-5600U.
Also would the N5105 be the 2022 replacement for the J4125? I'm a little behind the curve on Celerons and the low power stuff. Thank you.
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Also would the N5105 be the 2022 replacement for the J4125? I'm a little behind the curve on Celerons and the low power stuff. Thank you.
i have not received my PC yet, but cgigate says he put 16gb in his with no problems. Check first page of thread and read the ram question. He answered it.
TheBigCPabster, you are asking the right quesitons now? This is a LAPTOP chip , Scientogy uses it still. And your first post was good too, explaining where you are coming from. Maybe research it some more, as a play project, and maybe guest PC , ... 88 dollars is cheap enough to play with. Better than a Raspberry PI , right? (no offence to people that LOVE raspberry PIE).
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