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Flyingboat
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AquaWater09901 have you confirmed that this works to get you to 28MPH? Also recognize you have the Big Swell I believe. Have been trying this on the Big Sur, as others have said, perhaps with other models as well they haven't been able to change it.

Perhaps you even have a different LCD Display? I can see on the back of mine it says it is Model AK47.

I have tried searching for hacks on Model AK47 but haven't come up with anything, but see this is in fact the display as quantities can be bought from Alibaba etc, showing this display.

I did notice I can get to some type of undocumented menu on mine with PO levels and settings by holding down the up and down at the same time while the display is on.

Edit:

Ah, I figured out how to remove the limit!!

These PO settings look to be standard.
So get to the PO settings by holding the Up/Down at the same time after the LCD is on.
Click on the power button to go through the PO's.
PO8 is the limit! This is in kmh, this was set to 32, bump this up with the up arrow to 41. That is the max I could change it to. This works out to 25.5 mph.
After this change I can get to 25mph going down a hill.
On a straight road I can cruise at about 22 with full throttle. Pedaling fast like crazy I can get it up 24.

So this is a bit of an increase. Perhaps with a bigger front sprocket I could peddle a bit normally and get to 25.

Perhaps it is a limit of the 350W motor or the battery to get me with throttle to 23 or so, but I don't think the controller itself will let me go above 41kph with motor assist.

Possibly changing wheel size, PO6, would allow assist at faster speed?

FYI, I see some people have commented about their having 5 instead of 3 levels. This can be set in the PO5 setting.

Here are the PO settings for an entirely different controller, but they look pretty close from what I see. https://elecbikeparts.com/pages/s...ser-manual

There could be some other cool settings to see what they are and work with them.

for example: P12 PAS Start Strength
0-5, Higher = more assistance
Amount of assistance given when you start pedaling.

I am thinking this must be low. It seems to give very little help right away. Perhaps a safety feature set at factory? But I want help right away!

Or PO9 might affect how quickly it helps?
P09 Throttle Response
0 for instant throttle, 1 for delayed throttle
Sets whether pressing throttle and motor beginning to spin is instant, or whether there is a delay between the actions.

Edit: P09 was already set at 0 and can't be changed
P12 was set at 3 and can't go higher, but it can go lower.

FYI, read on this site https://power-bicycle.com/ebike-power/ that hub motors are pretty much limited to 25.

"Once the ebike is travelling at 25 MPH, the controller-wheel speed is maxed out. You can't go far over 25 MPH on most hub motors unless the motor & controller pair are designed for higher speeds."

This guy also talks about a smoothing circuit the mfgs implement for greater distance. Something about a loop back wire that can be removed to increase initial assistance but at
a sacrifice in distance.
PhatDealDude
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Is this random china stuff?

Not a lot of reviews. I got a warning going to this site (possibly fraudulent?).

Why don't they sell any ebikes on their non-corporate site?

Is anyone else concerned this is a knockoff? Joyridebikes.com is the original site (since 2001) selling Hurley and joyridebike.com (since 2015) is painted with 'weird' all over it.
kaivan29
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Why are people downvoting this? This is a good deal

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Aug 25, 2022
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vfire94
Aug 25, 2022
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Thanks everyone! I was able to bypass the limit and get the Big Sur up to 23 mph on a straight road. It can go up to 9 Pedal assist. I put it on 5 and the first 3 speeds are the same as 3 pedal assist
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Aug 25, 2022
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ricecookers
Aug 25, 2022
18 Posts
Quote from Manlet :
How's the Diablo so far for you? Just ordered one, if you figure out how to derestrict it, let others like me know!
I've put about 80 miles on it so far and it's been pretty fun riding on the road and dirt. I've had to adjust the rear derailleur because it couldn't get to the lowest (1) or highest (7) gears out of the box. I still can't get it into the lowest gear but I figured I don't really need it. The front disc breaks are squeaky so I still need to figure that out but overall I like it as my first ebike.

Even after 20 miles of assist level 3, it's still showing 2-3 bars for the battery. I don't know if that's correct or not but it seems to be more efficient than stated.
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Aug 25, 2022
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Manlet
Aug 25, 2022
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Quote from ricecookers :
I've put about 80 miles on it so far and it's been pretty fun riding on the road and dirt. I've had to adjust the rear derailleur because it couldn't get to the lowest (1) or highest (7) gears out of the box. I still can't get it into the lowest gear but I figured I don't really need it. The front disc breaks are squeaky so I still need to figure that out but overall I like it as my first ebike.

Even after 20 miles of assist level 3, it's still showing 2-3 bars for the battery. I don't know if that's correct or not but it seems to be more efficient than stated.
Did you happen to stumble upon Park Tool tutorials on YouTube for adjustment? Very helpful. Also, for the brake squeak issue, it's likely similar to 'bedding' them in like a car. I'd search for it for more detail, but you slowly increase your speed while increasing brake pressure (never locking them up), repeat for 10+ times or until there's no squeak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZxPIZ1ngY

Also, would you mind taking some detailed pictures of the battery, including the length? I'm trying to find a vendor that supplies replacement batteries for future replacement and will post again when I do.​

For length, this is what would be needed, then just normal pictures of the actual battery (front, side, back, etc.)
Last edited by Manlet August 25, 2022 at 03:38 AM.
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Aug 25, 2022
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Flyingboat
Aug 25, 2022
1,458 Posts
Quote from vfire94 :
Thanks everyone! I was able to bypass the limit and get the Big Sur up to 23 mph on a straight road. It can go up to 9 Pedal assist. I put it on 5 and the first 3 speeds are the same as 3 pedal assist
Yup, my light weight daughter is able to throttle at 24 on straight road. It gets me to 22.
Aug 25, 2022
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crusadertwin
Aug 25, 2022
813 Posts
I want to pull the trigger, but has anyone found a replacement battery? I dont want to have a non useable ebike in a couple of years when the batterry dies(and it will) anybody find out if its replaceable or proprietary? any luck with customer service? Ive sent email, but no response yet....
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Aug 25, 2022
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Flyingboat
Aug 25, 2022
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Quote from cyclops13 :
I am in the same boat. I am 5.11 and want to share the bike with my kid who's 5.4. Amped looks like a good option but I am hesitating because of the smaller battery and power. Wondering which option should I pick. Well I am in the northeast, so only a month of good weather I guess.

EDIT: Can the big sur take mild trails or its strictly a road bike? I have not heard anyone here buying the Silver Ridge, is it not good enough?
Reading reviews on the Amped ST, it seems many say it is a big bike and are disappointed it doesn't fit well for the 5.4 min height it lists .
Strangely looking at specs the Amped ST has minimum seat height of 26" while the Big Sur is 24". Of course the standover height is less, so still for someone smaller it would be easier to get on. I may still get one for my wife and see which one she prefers.
Aug 25, 2022
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Silects
Aug 25, 2022
114 Posts
Quote from crusadertwin :
I want to pull the trigger, but has anyone found a replacement battery? I dont want to have a non useable ebike in a couple of years when the batterry dies(and it will) anybody find out if its replaceable or proprietary? any luck with customer service? Ive sent email, but no response yet....
Not sure which model you're looking at but at least for the 'Swell''s and several other models, SWFT has replacement (or extra) batteries https://www.rideswft.com/collections/bike-shop

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Aug 25, 2022
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crusadertwin
Aug 25, 2022
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Quote from Silects :
Not sure which model you're looking at but at least for the 'Swell''s and several other models, SWFT has replacement (or extra) batteries https://www.rideswft.com/collections/bike-shop
I was looking at the betty or the big sur models, do they have replacement batteries for them?(also some say they are the same bike with a different brand but i know the seat is different, so there may be other differences) I'm new to all of this.
Also, what's the warrant y on the battery and the bike (if different)?

Thanks in adv.......
Last edited by crusadertwin August 25, 2022 at 03:36 PM.
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Aug 25, 2022
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crusadertwin
Aug 25, 2022
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I just checked out the swft site the battery doesnt seem to be the same voltage can you interchange that?
newbie here, if anyone could please explain. Also are the battery mounts all the same?
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Aug 25, 2022
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SaltonUnsalted
Aug 25, 2022
370 Posts
Quote from orangedawg :
Honest question: How good are these bikes? It seems that the price is pretty cheap. I know nothing about e-bikes. Just wondering how good is the build quality, components, etc.

Thank you.
Budget components on all of these.

Personally, I'm probably most worried about the power of the caliper brakes on most of these at 20mph with the weight of the bike.

For me, I'm treating these like an entry level ebike to determine how one might change my biking habits before I consider a larger purchase.
Aug 26, 2022
255 Posts
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blazemc
Aug 26, 2022
255 Posts
Got my big sur. Put it together quick. And it goes fast with just stock. 20 on flat. Battery dropped but I didn't charge much wanted to just try for 10 min. Gonna try with a full charge later. Haven't done the remover limiter yet but will. I like this bike is big and feels safer with two breaks over the costco 500 voyager. But for the life of me !!!! How do you keep handle bars from slipping ????????????
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Aug 26, 2022
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Flyingboat
Aug 26, 2022
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Quote from crusadertwin :
I was looking at the betty or the big sur models, do they have replacement batteries for them?(also some say they are the same bike with a different brand but i know the seat is different, so there may be other differences) I'm new to all of this.
Also, what's the warrant y on the battery and the bike (if different)?

Thanks in adv.......
Big Sur battery warranty is one year. Other components 6 months. Bike frame and fork for life if fails at weld point.
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Aug 26, 2022
15 Posts
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Aug 26, 2022
Epoxyflorguy
Aug 26, 2022
15 Posts
Quote from crusadertwin :
I want to pull the trigger, but has anyone found a replacement battery? I dont want to have a non useable ebike in a couple of years when the batterry dies(and it will) anybody find out if its replaceable or proprietary? any luck with customer service? Ive sent email, but no response yet....
I've had one for about a week now. Not good. Bad battery and or charger.
Aug 26, 2022
161 Posts
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dco671
Aug 26, 2022
161 Posts
Anyone know the difference between the Diablo and the Tailside? They seem to be the same bike just with different stickers but a whole difference on the price.

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Aug 26, 2022
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Manlet
Aug 26, 2022
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Quote from Epoxyflorguy :
I've had one for about a week now. Not good. Bad battery and or charger.
Did you end up getting a replacement from them?
Quote from dco671 :
Anyone know the difference between the Diablo and the Tailside? They seem to be the same bike just with different stickers but a whole difference on the price.
Same bike, just different branding.

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