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1TB Kingston NV1 M.2 2280 NVMe 3.0 PCIe Solid State Drive

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Amazon has 1TB Kingston NV1 M.2 2280 NVMe 3.0 PCIe SSD Solid State Drive (‎SNVS/1000G) on sale for $69.99. Shipping is free.

Kingtson.com has 1TB Kingston NV1 M.2 2280 NVMe 3.0 PCIe SSD Solid State Drive (‎SNVS/1000G) on sale for $69.99. Shipping is free.

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Product Details:
  • Speeds up to 2,100MB/s Read and 1,700MB/s Write
  • NVMe PCIe Gen 3.0 x 4 Lanes
  • 22mm x 80mm x 2.1mm (M.2)
  • 240TBW

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    • This SSD has received an average rating of 4.7 stars out of 5 based on over 6,400 Amazon customer reviews.
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Amazon has 1TB Kingston NV1 M.2 2280 NVMe 3.0 PCIe SSD Solid State Drive (‎SNVS/1000G) on sale for $69.99. Shipping is free.

Kingtson.com has 1TB Kingston NV1 M.2 2280 NVMe 3.0 PCIe SSD Solid State Drive (‎SNVS/1000G) on sale for $69.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member Suryasis for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Speeds up to 2,100MB/s Read and 1,700MB/s Write
  • NVMe PCIe Gen 3.0 x 4 Lanes
  • 22mm x 80mm x 2.1mm (M.2)
  • 240TBW

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $35 lower (33% savings) than the list price.
  • About this product:
    • This SSD has received an average rating of 4.7 stars out of 5 based on over 6,400 Amazon customer reviews.
  • About this store:
    • Amazon offers free returns for this item. You can return the item for any reason in new and unused condition: no shipping charges.
    • View the Kingston.com returns policy.
    • Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
    • If you're not a student, there's also a free 1-Month Amazon Prime trial available.

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DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
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Don't see any real world difference over the 1TB WD Black SN750 boot drive he was using for his games previously.
WingsOfF
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These is the entry level dramless QLCs like Crucial P2. For about $10-$12 more you can get the next level up with dram, good reputation, TLC, etc. But if a budget card is what you are looking for, this or the Crucial P2 at the same price are good choices for US based companies with excellent customer service.

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These is the entry level dramless QLCs like Crucial P2. For about $10-$12 more you can get the next level up with dram, good reputation, TLC, etc. But if a budget card is what you are looking for, this or the Crucial P2 at the same price are good choices for US based companies with excellent customer service.
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Here for the "Oh this is DRAM-less" popcorn….
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Bought as a game drive for my son's PC. Works just fine.
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U don't love your son enough😆
Don't see any real world difference over the 1TB WD Black SN750 boot drive he was using for his games previously.
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Quote from Linoleum :
Don't see any real world difference over the 1TB WD Black SN750 boot drive he was using for his games previously.
Yup, depending on the system (probably 3+ gens old?!?), a faster PCIe 3.0 on paper won't perform any better for most things.

Same as my Crucial P2 in a i5 6th gen. Samsung 970 performed just about the same.

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Its a matter of principle, if we continue to buy cheap drives without all the bells and whistles, they will continue to degrade. instead buy the good drives when they go on special. IMO Dram should be essential for SSD operation.
DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
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Quote from muchwow :
DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
That's gotta be the best and to the point explanation I've heard. Thanks for that.
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Yup, depending on the system (probably 3+ gens old?!?), a faster PCIe 3.0 on paper won't perform any better for most things.

Same as my Crucial P2 in a i5 6th gen. Samsung 970 performed just about the same.
Ryzen 5600X on a Gigabyte B550M AORUS Pro-P motherboard. So no, not an old system. You just dont notice a difference. Believe it or not.
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Quote from muchwow :
DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
Does this drive use HMB then?
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Quote from tennisplayer888 :
Does this drive use HMB then?
Yes, this drive uses HMB. Many modern nvme drives should, though it's not guaranteed/openly marketed.

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I know I can get a case to make this an external drive but is that a good idea? Are there major downsides to the health of the drive if I do that? I know I'll probably lose read write speeds depending on the case I get. I mainly want it as a fast backup drive for images and videos I edit. Would probably buy the 2tb version as it is on sale also. Thanks in advance for any advance and pointers!

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