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Amazon has 1TB Kingston NV1 M.2 2280 NVMe 3.0 PCIe SSD Solid State Drive (‎SNVS/1000G) on sale for $69.99. Shipping is free.

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  • Speeds up to 2,100MB/s Read and 1,700MB/s Write
  • NVMe PCIe Gen 3.0 x 4 Lanes
  • 22mm x 80mm x 2.1mm (M.2)
  • 240TBW

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DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
Don't see any real world difference over the 1TB WD Black SN750 boot drive he was using for his games previously.
These is the entry level dramless QLCs like Crucial P2. For about $10-$12 more you can get the next level up with dram, good reputation, TLC, etc. But if a budget card is what you are looking for, this or the Crucial P2 at the same price are good choices for US based companies with excellent customer service.

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These is the entry level dramless QLCs like Crucial P2. For about $10-$12 more you can get the next level up with dram, good reputation, TLC, etc. But if a budget card is what you are looking for, this or the Crucial P2 at the same price are good choices for US based companies with excellent customer service.
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Here for the "Oh this is DRAM-less" popcorn….
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Bought as a game drive for my son's PC. Works just fine.
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U don't love your son enough😆
Don't see any real world difference over the 1TB WD Black SN750 boot drive he was using for his games previously.
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Don't see any real world difference over the 1TB WD Black SN750 boot drive he was using for his games previously.
Yup, depending on the system (probably 3+ gens old?!?), a faster PCIe 3.0 on paper won't perform any better for most things.

Same as my Crucial P2 in a i5 6th gen. Samsung 970 performed just about the same.
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Its a matter of principle, if we continue to buy cheap drives without all the bells and whistles, they will continue to degrade. instead buy the good drives when they go on special. IMO Dram should be essential for SSD operation.
DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
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DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
That's gotta be the best and to the point explanation I've heard. Thanks for that.
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240 tbw
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Yup, depending on the system (probably 3+ gens old?!?), a faster PCIe 3.0 on paper won't perform any better for most things.

Same as my Crucial P2 in a i5 6th gen. Samsung 970 performed just about the same.
Ryzen 5600X on a Gigabyte B550M AORUS Pro-P motherboard. So no, not an old system. You just dont notice a difference. Believe it or not.
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Quote from muchwow :
DRAM isn't necessary for most users for everyday uses (gaming, streaming, storing files, etc.).

DRAM is used to store an index (a "map") so that when you look for a file, it knows exactly where to find it (think of a card catalog in a library). DRAM-less SSDs would store this on the NAND flash itself, which is slower than DRAM. Storing this information on the NAND flash would introduce more wear, but that's where wear-leveling technology comes in. Now, wear-leveling also would introduce a bit more latency, but it's a good trade-off to extend the life of the drive.

More recently, to reduce the latency of DRAM-less SSDs, modern NVMe drives (NVMe version 1.2 and higher - NOT the same as PCIe version) now leverage HMB technology (host memory buffer), which borrows the system memory in place of a dedicated DRAM. This significantly improved the performance of DRAM-less SSDs, so when you hear things like "DRAM-less SSDs are worse than hard drives!", that's simply not true (and never really was for the vast majority of people). This does not use a significant amount of system memory, so don't go out and upgrade your kit to 64gb.

Even what I said is likely a simplification (there's also stuff to consider such as how much space is needed for the mapping index), but hopefully this helps explain that DRAM-less SSDs are not somehow "garbage" as some would quickly declare.
Does this drive use HMB then?
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