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Direct Tools Outlet has Ryobi One+ 18V High Performance Lithium-Ion 6Ah Batteries (Factory Blemished, P164) for $94.99. Shipping is a flat rate $14.99.

Thanks to Community Member bodega_bladerunner for finding this deal.

Features:
  • Built-in 4-bar illuminated charge indicator to warn of diminishing charge
  • Stands up to frigid weather conditions Lithium-ion chemical composition resists drainage when idle
  • Recharge on any 18-Volt ONE+ Dual Chemistry Charger Easily snaps into place and detaches with quick-release button
  • Lightweight composition results in less user fatigue Fade-free power for maximum performance
  • Battery delivers superior runtime, power, and performance
  • HP Performance does not apply to brushless lawn and garden products

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Direct tools outlet has the RYOBI ONE+ 18 Volt Lithium+ HP 6 Ah Battery- 2 Pack for 94.99 + 14.99 shipping

https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/P164
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$120 at HD. This is $10 diff if you don't live near a DTO store. Plus it takes forever for DTO to ship
$10 more at homedepot for the newest 6ah HP batteries. Same size as a 4ah HP battery.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../317326866
They look pretty close to me.

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chong67
08-09-2022 at 09:34 PM.
08-09-2022 at 09:34 PM.
I have this newer battery last week. Yes for 6ah and the the same size as a old 4ah.

It takes longer to charge. I use it a few times and it last longer than my 4ah.

I love it.
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BT1982
08-09-2022 at 09:52 PM.
08-09-2022 at 09:52 PM.
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My last order from them was ordered on July 25 and delivered August 5. The $15 is understandable when you consider just how heavy the stuff they're shipping is. If you can load up on tools the prices are insane. I've gotten all the stuff on my wishlist for well under 1/2 price, even including the shipping.

I've called their phone support and the hold times are short, they've handled things and made it right every time.
You get what you pay for. With DTO you get good tools at good (mostly and sometimes really good) prices. In return you get slow shipping and lots of customer service errors. If you call to get your order fixed they seem to have 3 customer service staff - the nice one who can and will fix most things for you, the ok one who is....ok, and the mean surly one who is waste of time to talk to. Try enough and you'll be able to get most things resolved fairly. Oh, and you'll probably have to sign up for a call-back when you call - and do it early in the day or you might never get one.
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jcinc
08-10-2022 at 06:11 AM.
08-10-2022 at 06:11 AM.
What do you guys do with your old batteries? I have two 3AH and one 4AH. Feel like they would be sitting collecting dust if I got two 6AH.
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Driver732
08-10-2022 at 06:11 AM.
08-10-2022 at 06:11 AM.
I learned this a while back but the batteries have a number with the date of manufacturing. I am looking at one of mine that says EU2105 and from what I gathered that means May 2021. As to any drawbacks of buying a brand new battery with an older date code, someone else can chime in.
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djneedles72
08-10-2022 at 06:15 AM.
08-10-2022 at 06:15 AM.
I'm reading that the newer batteries are using Chinese cells vs the older ones that uses Sony/Samsung cells. People are pointing out that Ryobi is cutting cost with the new batteries. Apparently no other brands are using these Chinese cells.

I've bought the HD 2pk 6Ah (PBP007) but thinking about returning it for the DT 2pk 6Ah (P164 aka P193) because it's lithium+ vs lithium-ion. Unless I'm mistaken, isn't lithium+ better than lithium-ion or in this case they are same, just different branding?

Edit: Clarifying lithium+ vs lithium-ion
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Stubtify
08-10-2022 at 06:27 AM.
08-10-2022 at 06:27 AM.
Quote from BT1982 :
You get what you pay for. With DTO you get good tools at good (mostly and sometimes really good) prices. In return you get slow shipping and lots of customer service errors. If you call to get your order fixed they seem to have 3 customer service staff - the nice one who can and will fix most things for you, the ok one who is....ok, and the mean surly one who is waste of time to talk to. Try enough and you'll be able to get most things resolved fairly. Oh, and you'll probably have to sign up for a call-back when you call - and do it early in the day or you might never get one.
You do sound like you know the team there well. My only counterpoint is the alternative for Ryobi tools: Home Depot has some terrible hold times, and they're just as bad as anyone else with fixing issues.

My overall point is DTO seems to get a lot of hate and I don't get it--they're doing a great job getting these "blemished" tools in my hands for way less than anywhere else. People who are on the fence should know there's a lot of people having good experiences.
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08-10-2022 at 06:46 AM.
08-10-2022 at 06:46 AM.
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Definitely takes forever (sandlot voice) for them to ship.
Newer but is there a difference from lithium ion (newer) vs lithium+ (older)?
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Toolboy
08-10-2022 at 06:46 AM.
08-10-2022 at 06:46 AM.
Quote from Driver732 :
I learned this a while back but the batteries have a number with the date of manufacturing. I am looking at one of mine that says EU2105 and from what I gathered that means May 2021. As to any drawbacks of buying a brand new battery with an older date code, someone else can chime in.
EU2105 means 5th week of 2021, or Feb 2021.

The main concern with buying new old stock lithium-ion batteries is whether or not they've self-discharged too far while sitting on the shelf. Cells of this chemistry do not like to be over-discharged and doing so can result in cell damage. If a new battery's self-tester won't illuminate before you charge it for the first time, it may have self-discharged too far.

Battery University has some great articles available online, see BU-808 to BU-810 and even BU-706.
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08-10-2022 at 06:50 AM.
08-10-2022 at 06:50 AM.
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Aren't new Ryobi batteries using chinese cells whereas the older ones used cell made in Japan?
Both P193 (2pk P164) and PBP007 (2pk PBP2007) uses 2P Sony VTC6
https://www.reddit.com/r/ryobi/co...n_most_of/
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08-10-2022 at 07:03 AM.
08-10-2022 at 07:03 AM.
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What do you guys do with your old batteries? I have two 3AH and one 4AH. Feel like they would be sitting collecting dust if I got two 6AH.
You can short the terminals and have a fireworks display or explosion.
jk...don't do that.

You can get a Ryobi inverter and use them on the go to charge personal items like phones, bluetooth headsets/airpods/earbuds, use it to charge your laptop when you're on SD at a location that doesn't have many plugs (Starbucks, library, Panera, airport, etc.).
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08-10-2022 at 07:07 AM.

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$120 at HD. This is $10 diff if you don't live near a DTO store. Plus it takes forever for DTO to ship
They seem to have caught up. Ordered 2 large outdoor items and got them within a week from 800 miles aways
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08-10-2022 at 08:38 AM.
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I usually lurk around for deals, but had to sign up and comment on Direct Tool Outlet after my Father's Day purchase from them a few months ago.

First, DTO is located on the east coast, I live on the west coast. The closest store of theirs I could find was like... Texas, which is thousands of miles from where I live. They don't have a brick and mortar store in my state which is required to charge state sales tax.

I was charged DTO's headquarters location's sales tax, and not even on the sale price.... They charged me tax based on the non-sale price which was $50 more than what I paid. I spent a bit of time researching this and crunching the numbers only to realize that they were padding their discounted price by incorrectly charging me tax that they aren't obligated to turn in or report on their business taxes. This didn't sit well with me, so I contacted their customer service, which their site boasts is incredible, willing to help and quick to respond.

I wrote an email letting them know that I checked and neither their state law required them to collect taxes from me because I am out of state and my state will only charge taxes if the business is paying taxes to them and that requires a physical store and state business license... Which they have neither. I asked that they explain why I was charged this and if it was an error, to be refunded. I got one email response telling me that my inquiry would be sent to a bean counter at corp for a detailed answer. I never heard back. I wrote a second time and still nothing.

I bought 1 deal from DTO for a Ryobi cordless tool kit. Next time I'll spend the few extra dollars and get them from my local Home Depot or Amazon.

My experience with DTO is they are scammers. They will charge out of state purchases with their state sales tax erroneously and even overcharge you to make up for their discounted prices, then not even respond to explain the charge or offer a refund. These are shady business dealings and I feel that DTO looks for opportunities to "accidentally" overcharge on their transactions because as a customer there's not a lot of options to dispute these charges with them if they won't even respond. Im never purchasing from them again and I'll post in every thread of theirs on here to warn others.
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08-10-2022 at 08:47 AM.
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Quote from CthulhuEsq :
I usually lurk around for deals, but had to sign up and comment on Direct Tool Outlet after my Father's Day purchase from them a few months ago.

First, DTO is located on the east coast, I live on the west coast. The closest store of theirs I could find was like... Texas, which is thousands of miles from where I live. They don't have a brick and mortar store in my state which is required to charge state sales tax.

I was charged DTO's headquarters location's sales tax, and not even on the sale price.... They charged me tax based on the non-sale price which was $50 more than what I paid. I spent a bit of time researching this and crunching the numbers only to realize that they were padding their discounted price by incorrectly charging me tax that they aren't obligated to turn in or report on their business taxes. This didn't sit well with me, so I contacted their customer service, which their site boasts is incredible, willing to help and quick to respond.

I wrote an email letting them know that I checked and neither their state law required them to collect taxes from me because I am out of state and my state will only charge taxes if the business is paying taxes to them and that requires a physical store and state business license... Which they have neither. I asked that they explain why I was charged this and if it was an error, to be refunded. I got one email response telling me that my inquiry would be sent to a bean counter at corp for a detailed answer. I never heard back. I wrote a second time and still nothing.

I bought 1 deal from DTO for a Ryobi cordless tool kit. Next time I'll spend the few extra dollars and get them from my local Home Depot or Amazon.

My experience with DTO is they are scammers. They will charge out of state purchases with their state sales tax erroneously and even overcharge you to make up for their discounted prices, then not even respond to explain the charge or offer a refund. These are shady business dealings and I feel that DTO looks for opportunities to "accidentally" overcharge on their transactions because as a customer there's not a lot of options to dispute these charges with them if they won't even respond. Im never purchasing from them again and I'll post in every thread of theirs on here to warn others.
Maybe you should have disputed the tax charge with your CC company? Then they would either have to respond or you would automatically get the money back from your CC.
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08-10-2022 at 09:13 AM.
08-10-2022 at 09:13 AM.
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I usually lurk around for deals, but had to sign up and comment on Direct Tool Outlet after my Father's Day purchase from them a few months ago.

First, DTO is located on the east coast, I live on the west coast. The closest store of theirs I could find was like... Texas, which is thousands of miles from where I live. They don't have a brick and mortar store in my state which is required to charge state sales tax.

I was charged DTO's headquarters location's sales tax, and not even on the sale price.... They charged me tax based on the non-sale price which was $50 more than what I paid. I spent a bit of time researching this and crunching the numbers only to realize that they were padding their discounted price by incorrectly charging me tax that they aren't obligated to turn in or report on their business taxes. This didn't sit well with me, so I contacted their customer service, which their site boasts is incredible, willing to help and quick to respond.

I wrote an email letting them know that I checked and neither their state law required them to collect taxes from me because I am out of state and my state will only charge taxes if the business is paying taxes to them and that requires a physical store and state business license... Which they have neither. I asked that they explain why I was charged this and if it was an error, to be refunded. I got one email response telling me that my inquiry would be sent to a bean counter at corp for a detailed answer. I never heard back. I wrote a second time and still nothing.

I bought 1 deal from DTO for a Ryobi cordless tool kit. Next time I'll spend the few extra dollars and get them from my local Home Depot or Amazon.

My experience with DTO is they are scammers. They will charge out of state purchases with their state sales tax erroneously and even overcharge you to make up for their discounted prices, then not even respond to explain the charge or offer a refund. These are shady business dealings and I feel that DTO looks for opportunities to "accidentally" overcharge on their transactions because as a customer there's not a lot of options to dispute these charges with them if they won't even respond. Im never purchasing from them again and I'll post in every thread of theirs on here to warn others.
Your story doesn't sound right to me. I don't see how a retailer could charger you tax based on the MSRP verses the sale price paid. Maybe there was an issue in your case, but it sounds like you are upset that they charged you tax, period. I remember the days of no tax on internet purchases, but that ship sailed a few years back.

Are you saying that DTO charged you something different than what was shown on the checkout page or your email receipt?

I have purchased from DTO many times without issue. Perhaps their is some hidden West coast recycling fee or something similar being charged. I heard some places do that on electronics at purchase now.
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08-10-2022 at 09:19 AM.
08-10-2022 at 09:19 AM.
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Your story doesn't sound right to me. I don't see how a retailer could charger you tax based on the MSRP verses the sale price paid. Maybe there was an issue in your case, but it sounds like you are upset that they charged you tax, period. I remember the days of no tax on internet purchases, but that ship sailed a few years back.

Are you saying that DTO charged you something different than what was shown on the checkout page or your email receipt?

I have purchased from DTO many times without issue. Perhaps their is some hidden West coast recycling fee or something similar being charged. I heard some places do that on electronics at purchase now.

Here's what I sent to them:

"On a $132.99 charge, add the shipping cost of 12.99 to my item purchase and tax me on the total - $145.98 @ 10.5%-ish (my state + county tax rate) and you get 15.33... the amount I was charged.

If I'm subject to your state's sales taxes for an internet purchase at 6% (even with local county/municipality tax of 1-2%) it would be between $8.75 (6%) - $11.50 (8%) on $145.98.

Hypothetically if I purchased my item not on sale for $132.99 and instead paid $189.99 + $12.99 shipping = $202.98 @ 7.56% tax = $15.33

Either I was incorrectly charged a 7.5% tax rate on the non-sale price of my item ($189.99) or I was charged 10.5% tax rate on the correct price ($132.99) those are the only two ways I can find to arrive at the tax amount I paid of $15.33."
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