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2-Pk Ryobi One+ 18V High Performance Li 6Ah Batteries (Factory Blemished) Expired

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Direct Tools Outlet has Ryobi One+ 18V High Performance Lithium-Ion 6Ah Batteries (Factory Blemished, P164) for $94.99. Shipping is a flat rate $14.99.

Thanks to Community Member bodega_bladerunner for finding this deal.

Features:
  • Built-in 4-bar illuminated charge indicator to warn of diminishing charge
  • Stands up to frigid weather conditions Lithium-ion chemical composition resists drainage when idle
  • Recharge on any 18-Volt ONE+ Dual Chemistry Charger Easily snaps into place and detaches with quick-release button
  • Lightweight composition results in less user fatigue Fade-free power for maximum performance
  • Battery delivers superior runtime, power, and performance
  • HP Performance does not apply to brushless lawn and garden products

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Direct tools outlet has the RYOBI ONE+ 18 Volt Lithium+ HP 6 Ah Battery- 2 Pack for 94.99 + 14.99 shipping

https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/P164
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$120 at HD. This is $10 diff if you don't live near a DTO store. Plus it takes forever for DTO to ship
$10 more at homedepot for the newest 6ah HP batteries. Same size as a 4ah HP battery.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../317326866
They look pretty close to me.

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arnesr
08-10-2022 at 09:28 AM.
08-10-2022 at 09:28 AM.
Quote from djneedles72 :
Both P193 (2pk P164) and PBP007 (2pk PBP2007) uses 2P Sony VTC6
https://www.reddit.com/r/ryobi/co...n_most_of/

But how can they be different technologies Lithium+ vs Lithium-Ion if they are using the exact same cells? It does seem odd that the other PBP prefixed models all use the newer Chinese cells, but supposedly this model doesn't. Is it a matter of size/fit that they went with the Sony cells, or is the chart information wrong?
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arnesr
08-10-2022 at 09:39 AM.
08-10-2022 at 09:39 AM.
Quote from CthulhuEsq :
Here's what I sent to them:

"On a $132.99 charge, add the shipping cost of 12.99 to my item purchase and tax me on the total - $145.98 @ 10.5%-ish (my state + county tax rate) and you get 15.33... the amount I was charged.

If I'm subject to your state's sales taxes for an internet purchase at 6% (even with local county/municipality tax of 1-2%) it would be between $8.75 (6%) - $11.50 (8%) on $145.98.

Hypothetically if I purchased my item not on sale for $132.99 and instead paid $189.99 + $12.99 shipping = $202.98 @ 7.56% tax = $15.33

Either I was incorrectly charged a 7.5% tax rate on the non-sale price of my item ($189.99) or I was charged 10.5% tax rate on the correct price ($132.99) those are the only two ways I can find to arrive at the tax amount I paid of $15.33."
What does your confirmation email show? The amounts for shipping and tax should be shown there.
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CthulhuEsq
08-10-2022 at 09:53 AM.
08-10-2022 at 09:53 AM.
Quote from arnesr :
What does your confirmation email show? The amounts for shipping and tax should be shown there.
This is the receipt I was sent. I had ordered it and was busy texting a few buddies to let them know about the deal. I didn't look or realize the charge until a few days later when I asked my buddies and they were charged this too.

"Order Summary
ITEMS PRICE $189.99
DISCOUNTS - $57.00
SUBTOTAL $132.99
SHIPPING $12.99
TAXES $15.33
ORDER TOTAL $161.31
YOU SAVED $57.00!

And to clarify...
My state and county has a combined sales tax rate of 10.5%.

DTO's tax rate is 6% state + up to 2% local/county. So a 7.56% tax charge is right in that range.

I worked to figure out how the taxes came to $15.33, which works with my local tax rate that they shouldn't be charging as they don't have a presence in my state... but their taxes at 6-8% didn't work with the 145.98 to get $15.33... unless you base the taxes on the non sale price of 189.99 + 12.99 shipping = $202.98 @ 7.56% = $15.33

This is why I wrote to them asking to explain the charge, they never wrote back to my legitimate questions. I told them they either charged me my state sales tax incorrectly or they charged me their state sales tax but on the full price of the item. They weren't interested in explaining the charge or refunding my money. I checked the laws in both states (which is how I also found what their exact tax rates locally for DTO) they aren't required by their state to collect or pay tax for out of state sales, my state is very specific that for a business to charge sales tax, they must have a physical presence here and a business license to operate in the state... DTO has neither.
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08-10-2022 at 10:14 AM.
08-10-2022 at 10:14 AM.
Quote from arnesr :
But how can they be different technologies Lithium+ vs Lithium-Ion if they are using the exact same cells? It does seem odd that the other PBP prefixed models all use the newer Chinese cells, but supposedly this model doesn't. Is it a matter of size/fit that they went with the Sony cells, or is the chart information wrong?
Ryobi has not been particularly clear on what exactly is meant by the adjectives they've used to describe their 18v battery packs: Lithium Ion, Lithium+, Lithium+ HP, and Lithium Ion HIGH PERFORMANCE. I've seen verbiage indicating better temperature tolerance, vibration tolerance, and better performance. These improvements are not necessarily related to just cell technology. For example, the improved vibration tolerance is likely due to improved spot welding, cell holding brackets, and cell cushioning. I remember once reading that a vendor was claiming better heat dissipation of their battery pack because they'd integrated heat conductive gel packs between and around the the cells (not Ryobi). Ryobi 18v batteries contain an internal circuit board (a BMS or Battery Management System) so part of the claims made could be due to improvement to this circuit board. Who's to say exactly what "better performance" means Ryobi?
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08-10-2022 at 10:30 AM.
08-10-2022 at 10:30 AM.
It's nice! Have you spotted anything else from DTO-Ryobi?
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entranced
08-11-2022 at 06:56 AM.
08-11-2022 at 06:56 AM.
Quote from Biginuf :
My last order 2 weeks ago took 5 days from DTO.

It's been a weird luck of the draw. I went on a few Ryobi binges during sales that took forever. But then my father in law got a 40V blower + battery + charger and he got it in 5 days.

Perhaps complexity of the order factors in, since most of us are stacking the cart to make shipping not a dealbreaker.
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Earthwormjim
09-05-2022 at 01:33 PM.
09-05-2022 at 01:33 PM.
Quote from GBAstar :
Also I have several of the 3Ah and 9Ah HP batteries from Ryobi Days 3 years ago. I am meticulous about how I store and take care of my batteries and they are not holding up well. As far as I know these models haven't been manufactured in some time and are most likely old(er) stock

What does meticulous mean exactly? You're not physically abusing them, that's it?

For Lithium ion batteries, what matters most for longevity (or reducing longevity rather) is time spent above ~80% charge, and how many times you've charged beyond 80%.

You should be storing your batteries at or below 80% if you want them to last, and discharging them as close to 0% as you can (without fully discharging), to partially self heal the cracks formed in the anodes from high states of charge, every once in a while.
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