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May want to wait as prices of the 3000series will drop later this year.
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I probably could wait to see how video card prices come down, but honestly reasonable prices are good enough for me at this point. I built my current PC with parts from 7 years ago, which were themselves 1- 2 years old, and performance / dollar optimized. And after working from home on it for 2 years I can say I desperately need more breathing room with the myriad things I do with my PC and how much of it I often have open concurrently.
I game at 1080p and I *might* switch to a 4k monitor and try gaming at native resolution. Maybe I'll be a convert once I get there, but I've had this feeling that beyond 1080p it's just too much resolution for me to appreciate. Probably flawed logic. Anyway, the 3090 is probably far more beastly a graphics card for the level at which I game than I need. But what I really want it for is the memory for creating AI generated images on my local machine. It looks like Stable Diffusion is coming out soon and it doesn't even need that much memory. But it was looking like I needed at least 16GB of memory in Disco Diffusion and there wasn't much in the way of options so it was go big or go home.
Here's hoping I bought a card that isn't going to give me any grief and won't depreciate another $500 in 6 months. But if it does, so be it.
Everyone is stressed by different things. Here's hoping we can back to just playing games again and having fun as a pc community. i know one thing this isn't as fun covid and mining sucked. I think people have a right to be a little exhausted on both sides of this.
a house is an investment you live in. They dont' typically drop in value by 50 percent in 2 months in a predictable manner. I think if you know this and are willing to accept it to not have the hassle of getting the new thing it's a better way of looking at it. And by the way i think that makes sense. The last few years have been hell for getting a video card. I can totally see someone saying i'll pay double to not have to look at video cards for 4-5 years. I wont' touch this but i literally am tempted as think about it for that reason alone.
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Meanwhile, back in reality, everything I've been saying about the GPU market and price crashes happening, has happened and is continuing...because logic isn't emotional.
It isn't just rumors and hype. The lithography is shrinking to 4N, which will push transistor densities off the charts. The 2XXX was 12nm, the 3XXX was 8nm, die sizes of 445mm^2 and 392mm^2, and transistor counts at 10.8B and 17.4B respectively. So, with around 61% more transistors at around the same die size, the RTX 3070 is around 45% faster. So 45% performance improvement with a 33% reduction in the lithography size at the same die size.
We could delve into mathematical extrapolations for pages, but if a 33% lithography improvement brought 61% more transistors and 45% higher performance, a larger lithography reduction would bring larger percentage increases in both all else equal. Even if the die size were smaller, it could still have higher transistor and performance percentage advantages than the 3070 to 2070 comparison, and transistor counts are still the main factor with standard rendering performance.
If the 4070 is equal to or faster than 45% above the 3070, then now we're around 3080 Ti performance. It's being estimated around 3090 performance, which when considered in light of the aforementioned, nearly every major tech source leak, increased AMD competition, and a crashing market that would demand a significant improvement to keep sales numbers and revenues reasonable, it's not only reasonable but probable that the 4070 will be near or at 3090 performance.
There are, however, a few critical unknowns.
1. price of 4070 - your best guess?
2. 4070 being better than a 3080 is about right - that's how it's always been about. 2070 better than 1080, etc. but 3090 isn't just faster than 3080, it's also got a heck of a lot more ram, etc.
I probably could wait to see how video card prices come down, but honestly reasonable prices are good enough for me at this point. I built my current PC with parts from 7 years ago, which were themselves 1- 2 years old, and performance / dollar optimized. And after working from home on it for 2 years I can say I desperately need more breathing room with the myriad things I do with my PC and how much of it I often have open concurrently.
I game at 1080p and I *might* switch to a 4k monitor and try gaming at native resolution. Maybe I'll be a convert once I get there, but I've had this feeling that beyond 1080p it's just too much resolution for me to appreciate. Probably flawed logic. Anyway, the 3090 is probably far more beastly a graphics card for the level at which I game than I need. But what I really want it for is the memory for creating AI generated images on my local machine. It looks like Stable Diffusion is coming out soon and it doesn't even need that much memory. But it was looking like I needed at least 16GB of memory in Disco Diffusion and there wasn't much in the way of options so it was go big or go home.
Here's hoping I bought a card that isn't going to give me any grief and won't depreciate another $500 in 6 months. But if it does, so be it.
Your gaming rig is sure weird though lol.... 9 year old cpu (yikes that's like haswell at best), rtx 3090, and a 1080p? I dare not ask what refresh rate, panel type, or size...
not that I am criticizing... those old CPUs can still game quite nicely, especially if you are like me and not into pop games
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