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Netgear Nighthawk (RAX50) AX5400 Wifi 6 Router *RFB* $100

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Model: Netgear nighthawk ax5400 wifi 6 router black (Renewed)

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Sep 13, 2022
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coolcoder
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Does anyone know if this can be used as a bridge?
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nonarchist
Sep 13, 2022
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Reasonable deal for those who can't wait for 6e prices to come down.
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Quote from nonarchist :
Reasonable deal for those who can't wait for 6e prices to come down.
6E has zero use case unless you have a desktop/laptop with an intel card or phone that supports it.

The only real world benefit of 6E is avoiding congested 5G spectrum. 5G is faster apples to apples in isolated areas/no fcc power limits.

I have an AXE11000 and the 6G radio has no clients connected (I have intel card on desktop but I don't use it).

Lack of clients is the biggest downfall and HW stagnation occurs due to pricing/diminishing returns in IoT sector.

tl;dr 6E AX is dead regardless of benefits in high dense areas (circumvented with wired/ wireless mesh). Gen 2 AX 5G is a bigger real world improvement. my2c.

FYI: Wifi7 *BE* hardware is already in production/distribution channels Smilie
Last edited by Jsz0301 September 13, 2022 at 04:44 PM.
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For those considering this, spend the extra $15 and add on the 4 year warranty...
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yes per manual
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4. Select ADVANCED > Advanced Setup > Wireless Settings. The Wireless Settings page displays.

Manage Network Settings

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User Manual

Nighthawk AX6 6-Stream AX5400 WiFi Router
5. Select the use other operation mode check box. 6. Select the Enable Bridge Mode radio button. 7. Click the setup bride mode wireless settings button.
The Wireless Settings window opens. 8. Specify the settings of the other router to which this router will connect:
a. Select the wireless network from the menu: � Wireless Networks (2.4Ghz b/g/n) � Wireless Networks (5Ghz a/n/ac) For 802.11ac or 802.11ax mode, select 5 GHz.
b. In the Name (SSID) file, enter the wireless network name (SSID). c. In the Security Options section, select a radio button. d. If the Password (Network Key) field displays, type the WiFi password (network
key) that you use to connect wirelessly to the other router.
9. Click the Apply button. The window closes and you are returned to the main Wireless Settings page.
10. Click the Apply button on the main Wireless Settings page. Your settings are saved.
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Does anyone know if this can be used as a bridge?
Sep 17, 2022
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Sep 17, 2022
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Does it use Circle with subscription required? Their old products use Circle which does not work all the time to me. Does anyone have experience with the new parental control feature?
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it used NetArmor on a subscription basis
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Does it use Circle with subscription required? Their old products use Circle which does not work all the time to me. Does anyone have experience with the new parental control feature?

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Is this a good buy?
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Quote from Hollymol :
I guess their customer service will know that
Lol, thanks.
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Reviews on the refurbished unit are bad
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Quote from Jsz0301 :
6E has zero use case unless you have a desktop/laptop with an intel card or phone that supports it.

The only real world benefit of 6E is avoiding congested 5G spectrum. 5G is faster apples to apples in isolated areas/no fcc power limits.
It's more about future proofing. There's always going to be a "new" technology so waiting until WiFi 7 isn't going to be much help.

FWIW, I heard the same arguments when WiFi 6 routers were being sold and to "wait until the real upgrade, 6E". Now I'm hearing "Wait until the real upgrade, 7" on 6E threads.
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Quote from autosaver :
It's more about future proofing. There's always going to be a "new" technology so waiting until WiFi 7 isn't going to be much help.
There is no "future proof" on 6E.. (Which is just gen1 WIFI6/AX technology on 6ghz spectrum)

It's DOA, at least for WIFI6 platforms and consumer clients which need maximum compatibility. No brand will sacrifice market share (2.4/5G) to adopt new technology. 6E will be limited to Intel desktop/laptop cards + specific phones (which don't even "need" 6E to start with) until WIFI7 hardware is released en masse.

Most Consumer clients go the cheapest route for radio hardware.. At least In terms of cost/diminishing returns.. That's currently a 1x1/2x2 AC and then 1x1/2x2 80mhz AX... Not even 160mhz bonding/hw capability is getting implemented on regular products as it sucks power (battery life) relatively speaking..

Well that and the DFS requirement kind of makes the technology useless on most routers in circulation. two fold issue. Unni-4 is suppose to solve this (unii3+4 160mhz block), but that also requires client updates..

You buy 6E because the interference in your environment is just too high and or you have a niche purpose with the specific intel card or phone where you need maximum speed. That's it.

Can 6E be valid? Yes, but IoT will refuse spending the cost on certified radios and will default to regular wifi6 80mhz if they want the "upgrade". By the time 6ghz clients are entering the space, WIFI7 HW is in full production.

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FWIW, I heard the same arguments when WiFi 6 routers were being sold and to "wait until the real upgrade, 6E". Now I'm hearing "Wait until the real upgrade, 7" on 6E threads.
Its the same issue today really. There's more WIFI6 clients out now but a majority of stuff still functions with AC modulation. It's always going to be a client issue.

Also if you really want to "future proof" gen 2 AX hardware out from both Qualcomm and Broadcom is currently the way to go (2.4+5G). Brands like ASUS and Synology realized this.


6E and unii4 will default to wireless backhaul use for the time being. (majority of the benefits come from 4x4 >4x4 radio backhaul).

router> client just wont take off the same way as WIFI AC did. Diminishing returns/cost.


A router such as the GT-AX6000 (2.4/5G gen 2 AX) is just the better option.. but ASUS knows this and charges an arm and leg.
Last edited by Jsz0301 September 22, 2022 at 01:40 PM.
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Quote from mohamedm6748 :
Is this a good buy?
I would like to know too.
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FWIW, reviews from when it was new: https://dongknows.com/netgear-rax...er-review/. There have been firmware updates and they've been stable....

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