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Apple MacBook Pro 13.3" Laptop: Apple M1 8-Core, 512GB, 8GB RAM, MacOS

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Best Buy has Apple MacBook Pro 13.3" Laptop (MYD92LL/A; Late 2020 Model) on sale for $999.99 Now-> $1049.99. Shipping is free, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

Thanks to community member harenbrahmbhatt for finding this deal

Note, curbside pickup may vary depending on location. Item is available in both Silver or Space Gray colorway

Specs/Key Features
  • Apple M1 8-Core GPU
  • 13.3" 2560x1600 500-Nits Retina Display w/ 720p Front-Facing Camera/Built In Microphone
  • 512GB Solid State Drive SSD
  • 8GB LPDDR3 RAM
  • WiFi 6 Network (various compatible network; A/AC/AX/B/G/N)
  • Apple Touch Bar w/ Touch Trackpad
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Built-In Siri Voice Assistant
  • 61W Lithium Polymer Battery
  • macOS Big Sur 11.0
    • Inputs
      • 2x Thunderbolt 3
      • 4x USB
Warranty
  • Includes a standard 1-year manufacturer warranty w/ purchase (parts + labor)

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This is a good price if you're in the market for the late 2020 Apple MacBook model; great for complex workflows in photography, coding, video editing & more + mid-grade processor ($500 Off 33.3% Savings Now-> $450 Off or 30% Savings overall)
  • Up to 20 hours of battery life for those on the go/need extra battery performance (especially on intensive tasks/gaming)
  • Product includes a 15-day easy/free return w/ purchase
  • Offer valid while promotional price/supplies last
Additional Notes
  • Highly rated by customers for battery, ease of use and design
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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Best Buy has Apple MacBook Pro 13.3" Laptop (MYD92LL/A; Late 2020 Model) on sale for $999.99 Now-> $1049.99. Shipping is free, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

Thanks to community member harenbrahmbhatt for finding this deal

Note, curbside pickup may vary depending on location. Item is available in both Silver or Space Gray colorway

Specs/Key Features
  • Apple M1 8-Core GPU
  • 13.3" 2560x1600 500-Nits Retina Display w/ 720p Front-Facing Camera/Built In Microphone
  • 512GB Solid State Drive SSD
  • 8GB LPDDR3 RAM
  • WiFi 6 Network (various compatible network; A/AC/AX/B/G/N)
  • Apple Touch Bar w/ Touch Trackpad
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Built-In Siri Voice Assistant
  • 61W Lithium Polymer Battery
  • macOS Big Sur 11.0
    • Inputs
      • 2x Thunderbolt 3
      • 4x USB
Warranty
  • Includes a standard 1-year manufacturer warranty w/ purchase (parts + labor)

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This is a good price if you're in the market for the late 2020 Apple MacBook model; great for complex workflows in photography, coding, video editing & more + mid-grade processor ($500 Off 33.3% Savings Now-> $450 Off or 30% Savings overall)
  • Up to 20 hours of battery life for those on the go/need extra battery performance (especially on intensive tasks/gaming)
  • Product includes a 15-day easy/free return w/ purchase
  • Offer valid while promotional price/supplies last
Additional Notes
  • Highly rated by customers for battery, ease of use and design
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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NavySpaniel555
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tell me you arent familiar with m1 laptop performance without telling me
AJDemineh
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That might be because this also uses the M1…
Thelnel52
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When did you have the M1 Air?

The reason I ask is late last year Resolve was updated to run natively on the M1, so if your bad experience was prior to the update, it's possible things have changed.

A couple years ago, Apple moved away from Intel CPUs (i3, i5, i7) and started making their own (M1, now M2). I'm oversimplifying things, but when software runs natively, these systems perform amazingly well, even with 8GB of RAM.

Prior to the shift, and with Windows, it's like we've gotten used to driving around in a truck with the bed full of concrete, towing an RV. We all know that 8 gallons of gas isn't enough to drive 20 miles to the beach and back. But if you take that concrete out of the back and unhook the RV, suddenly 8 gallons of gas is more than enough.

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Sep 23, 2022 07:45 PM
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M1 8GB is more than enough for most business/casual use.

M1 16GB >= Intel 32GB. Our developers moved from Intel 32GB MBP (which was barely enough) to M1 with 16GB with room to spare, and faster.
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Sep 23, 2022 08:11 PM
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YouDontNeedItSep 23, 2022 08:11 PM
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Quote from bzobes87 :
Can you expand on that? I've never bought a Mac book and was ready to dismiss this over the ram.
No, he can't. Because what he is saying isn't true. 8gb on this MacBook I the same as 8gb on any other modern laptop.
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YouDontNeedItSep 23, 2022 08:23 PM
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Quote from Thelnel52 :
When did you have the M1 Air?

The reason I ask is late last year Resolve was updated to run natively on the M1, so if your bad experience was prior to the update, it's possible things have changed.

A couple years ago, Apple moved away from Intel CPUs (i3, i5, i7) and started making their own (M1, now M2). I'm oversimplifying things, but when software runs natively, these systems perform amazingly well, even with 8GB of RAM.

Prior to the shift, and with Windows, it's like we've gotten used to driving around in a truck with the bed full of concrete, towing an RV. We all know that 8 gallons of gas isn't enough to drive 20 miles to the beach and back. But if you take that concrete out of the back and unhook the RV, suddenly 8 gallons of gas is more than enough.
What a misinformed analogy. It's more like saying that this 8 gallon bucket can hold 16 gallons because it's apple branded.
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WingsOfFSep 23, 2022 09:19 PM
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Quote from pechango :
MacOS, all the way back to the early OSX days, has always done a better job with memory management vs. windows. M1 does it better only because of lower latency and SoC, not that it is technically "faster" just has less roadblocks.
What MacOS does vs Windows is irrelevant to this misconception that OSX on M1 does better with memory than on Intel (that is just a cult talking point) and therefore 8GB goes much further. All the modern operating systems do pretty much the same thing in memory management. Just different tuning on how much and when to allocate and when to release but that has no impact on how much memory an application uses.

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Yes, I agree that 8gb is low, especially since most browsers with multiple tabs can peg memory usage but again for the people using this 8gb of ram is plenty. My wife wouldn't get much more about of a 16gb upgrade on her Air she got last year. However, I would which is why I went with the 14" 10/16core machine with 16gb ram.

What people need to say is "if you have a need, get the machine with more ram. however, if you don't, then 8gb will get you by just fine".
I mostly agree with the above but the problem is what you may need now may no longer hold over the lifetime of the machine. So, if you want to make Apple happy by upgrading every time a new model comes out, then perhaps. But otherwise, you are going to pay a penalty.

And that can be independent of use. Too small a SSD is another problem that can have impact on memory usage. When the SSD starts to get filled up, its performance starts to drop and so the paging lags (and the beachball occurrences) becomes a lot more noticeable. Apple hopes you will upgrade by that time but it is not a financially savvy solution for the consumer.

Applications get more sloppy about memory because they all start to develop them on higher memory configurations and don't test on 8GB machines before release. Those applications start to lag, And so on….
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WingsOfFSep 23, 2022 09:21 PM
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Quote from alexlzl :
M1 16GB >= Intel 32GB. Our developers moved from Intel 32GB MBP (which was barely enough) to M1 with 16GB with room to spare, and faster.
Total BS.
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WingsOfFSep 23, 2022 09:24 PM
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Quote from ThriftyMammoth310 :
Mac user my whole life, I bought an M1 MacBook Air about a year ago. I was also fairly certain that I needed more than 16 gb of RAM, but a former student who was working as an Apple engineer at the time assured me that due to the way the M1 chips worked, 8 gb would be plenty. I used my computer both for work and personal stuff for 8 months or so, using Citrix Remote Desktop at the same time as running code in RStudio and having Chrome open with ten million tabs. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had the computer give me the spinning Beach ball of death. It works great. Very happy with my purchase. I opted for the Air because the specs were virtually identical to the Pro, but the Air was about $150 cheaper. If I was in the market for a new laptop I'd jump on this deal.
The reason is not because it uses less memory or somehow M1 uses memory differently, but the SSD being on the chip is really fast and therefore you don't notice the paging (spinning balls as much). But that starts to change as the SSD starts to fill up because the performance goes down.

The M1 is also different in the sense that the same 8GB memory is shared between the CPU, GPU and the neural engine. So, the effective memory available for applications is less than 8GB. This makes for a fast machine but only if you are able to hide the paging penalty with a super fast SSD.
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plus1zeroSep 23, 2022 09:46 PM
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Have a 2019 i7/512GB/16GB 16" MBP, worth selling and upgrading to the M1? I kinda like having boot camp as an option but I know the M1 is where Apple is transitioning and I have a desktop for Windows stuff.

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22chamkilaSep 23, 2022 09:57 PM
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I bought 256 GB one from Costco 3-4 days back. Wondering if it is worth the hassle to return that one and buy this from BB.
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elefante72Sep 23, 2022 11:57 PM
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Quote from plus1zero :
Have a 2019 i7/512GB/16GB 16" MBP, worth selling and upgrading to the M1? I kinda like having boot camp as an option but I know the M1 is where Apple is transitioning and I have a desktop for Windows stuff.
New ones coming soon, economy tanking. I'd hold off. Also boot camp rocks. I have an m1 pro and I still like my 2019 for windows. That is a nice device keep it.
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pugboy75Sep 24, 2022 12:43 AM
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Quote from armharm :
You used to be able to do something called bootcamp where you could basically boot up into either MacOS or Windows or another OS. This was when they used Intel chips but I guess with the Apple chips you can't do that anymore.
The M1 chips don't use x86 architecture, so that no longer works.
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pugboy75Sep 24, 2022 12:45 AM
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Quote from plus1zero :
Have a 2019 i7/512GB/16GB 16" MBP, worth selling and upgrading to the M1? I kinda like having boot camp as an option but I know the M1 is where Apple is transitioning and I have a desktop for Windows stuff.
The CPU is better, but you will have half the RAM and can't use Windows. I would keep what you have, plus you already own it. No need to spend more money on a relatively small increase in performance.
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pechangoSep 24, 2022 01:31 AM
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Quote from WingsOfF :
What MacOS does vs Windows is irrelevant to this misconception that OSX on M1 does better with memory than on Intel (that is just a cult talking point) and therefore 8GB goes much further. All the modern operating systems do pretty much the same thing in memory management. Just different tuning on how much and when to allocate and when to release but that has no impact on how much memory an application uses.
I never said it does better with memory on M1 (I don't think anyone else did either), the low latency and swap with a fast internal storage make it "feel" faster and less laggy. That's the point i've been making (and some others have, just in different language).

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I mostly agree with the above but the problem is what you may need now may no longer hold over the lifetime of the machine. So, if you want to make Apple happy by upgrading every time a new model comes out, then perhaps. But otherwise, you are going to pay a penalty.

And that can be independent of use. Too small a SSD is another problem that can have impact on memory usage. When the SSD starts to get filled up, its performance starts to drop and so the paging lags (and the beachball occurrences) becomes a lot more noticeable. Apple hopes you will upgrade by that time but it is not a financially savvy solution for the consumer.

Applications get more sloppy about memory because they all start to develop them on higher memory configurations and don't test on 8GB machines before release. Those applications start to lag, And so on….
Storage isn't an issue, we use a NAS. Never trust portable storage as a long term solution. And her previous job allows her to write her machine off completely. Her previous laptop was a mid-2012 13" mbp. Lasted up until late last year, nearly 10 years. I had a mid-2012 15" mbp that is still going but long in the tooth so I finally upgraded late last year too. I hope to get 5-7 years minimum out of this.
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WellingtonWonkaSep 24, 2022 02:12 AM
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Quote from AJDemineh :
That might be because this also uses the M1…
What a moron that guy is loo
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WingsOfFSep 24, 2022 02:41 AM
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Quote from pechango :
I never said it does better with memory on M1 (I don't think anyone else did either), the low latency and swap with a fast internal storage make it "feel" faster and less laggy. That's the point i've been making (and some others have, just in different language).
This whole sub-thread is about whether 8GB is sufficient. The reason the Apple fans keep putting out is that M1 does some magic with memory unlike with Intel that makes 8GB sufficient while it wouldn't with Intel. This is patently false. If an application starts asking for a lot of memory, it doesn't know whether it is on Intel or M1. Nor can M1 make it use less memory. The low latency just makes it run faster but if it runs of memory (and it will run out faster because part of the memory is allocated to video and the neural engine on the M1), it has to swap just like with Intel chips. If you make paging fast with a fast SSD to help, you can do the same with an Intel. But even this solution has limitations because SSDs get slower as they fill up as I explained, so the band-aid only works to a certain extent.

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Storage isn't an issue, we use a NAS. Never trust portable storage as a long term solution. And her previous job allows her to write her machine off completely. Her previous laptop was a mid-2012 13" mbp. Lasted up until late last year, nearly 10 years. I had a mid-2012 15" mbp that is still going but long in the tooth so I finally upgraded late last year too. I hope to get 5-7 years minimum out of this.
Sheesh. We are talking about a laptop here. You don't carry around a NAS with you. So, the storage in the laptop will start getting filled up. If you use it differently tied to a NAS all the time, then that is irrelevant to this discussion.

The point which you totally lost is that as SSDs start to fill up their performance slows down which means the paging gets slower which means you start seeing more beach balls which you might not at the beginning. So, your advice to buy what works now isn't a good one without understanding how you might get bit later.

Just avoid 8GB machines unless you want to upgrade far sooner than you think. The same shrills who day 8GB is ok now will be cheering the next gen at 16GB saying why that is much better than with 8GB and encouraging upgrading to it. Smilie
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Quote from WingsOfF :
This whole sub-thread is about whether 8GB is sufficient. The reason the Apple fans keep putting out is that M1 does some magic with memory unlike with Intel that makes 8GB sufficient while it wouldn't with Intel. This is patently false. If an application starts asking for a lot of memory, it doesn't know whether it is on Intel or M1. Nor can M1 make it use less memory. The low latency just makes it run faster but if it runs of memory (and it will run out faster because part of the memory is allocated to video and the neural engine on the M1), it has to swap just like with Intel chips. If you make paging fast with a fast SSD to help, you can do the same with an Intel. But even this solution has limitations because SSDs get slower as they fill up as I explained, so the band-aid only works to a certain extent.



Sheesh. We are talking about a laptop here. You don't carry around a NAS with you. So, the storage in the laptop will start getting filled up. If you use it differently tied to a NAS all the time, then that is irrelevant to this discussion.

The point which you totally lost is that as SSDs start to fill up their performance slows down which means the paging gets slower which means you start seeing more beach balls which you might not at the beginning. So, your advice to buy what works now isn't a good one without understanding how you might get bit later.

Just avoid 8GB machines unless you want to upgrade far sooner than you think. The same shrills who day 8GB is ok now will be cheering the next gen at 16GB saying why that is much better than with 8GB and encouraging upgrading to it. Smilie
8gb is fine for 95% of people
All my m1 iMac and pros are 8gb nonissue. My m1 iMac is 16gb and 2tb hdd

And I really see zero difference between them on a daily useage tbh.
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