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I think the Ryzen 7000 iGPU might end up close to an Athlon 3000G (Vega 3). Which would not be great but is a nice thing to have by default.
If you can get nice deals on a motherboard, CPU, and DDR4, going with dead-end AM4 is legit. These CPUs are more than enough for most people, most people do not actually upgrade CPUs, AM5 CPUs and motherboards will be expensive at launch, and DDR5 is still expensive.
If you want to experience the AM5 upgrade path, I'd recommend waiting for something much cheaper than a $300 7600X to appear, and DDR5 to get cheaper. Or wait until 7800X3D if you actually want the ultimate gaming performance in 2023.
7000 Ryzens will be retail available on Tuesday. They will have very basic iGPU functionality but not as good as APUs for games. We don't have the FPS numbers yet, so wait and check the reviews. The 5x00 APUs were a godsend during the GPU winter as they have acceptable gaming performance on games ~5 years old and older, but now GPUs are reasonably priced.
For the longer term, it's better to sink money into an AM5 socket and DDR5 memory instead of older tech for most people, unless the budget is tight.
7000 Ryzens will be retail available on Tuesday. They will have very basic iGPU functionality but not as good as APUs for games. We don't have the FPS numbers yet, so wait and check the reviews. The 5x00 APUs were a godsend during the GPU winter as they have acceptable gaming performance on games ~5 years old and older, but now GPUs are reasonably priced.
For the longer term, it's better to sink money into an AM5 socket and DDR5 memory instead of older tech for most people, unless the budget is tight.
I think the Ryzen 7000 iGPU might end up close to an Athlon 3000G (Vega 3). Which would not be great but is a nice thing to have by default.
If you can get nice deals on a motherboard, CPU, and DDR4, going with dead-end AM4 is legit. These CPUs are more than enough for most people, most people do not actually upgrade CPUs, AM5 CPUs and motherboards will be expensive at launch, and DDR5 is still expensive.
If you want to experience the AM5 upgrade path, I'd recommend waiting for something much cheaper than a $300 7600X to appear, and DDR5 to get cheaper. Or wait until 7800X3D if you actually want the ultimate gaming performance in 2023.
With the 5600G hovering around $130 is it worth the extra $100 for two more cores and 4 more threads?
That really depends on your use. If you somebody who does for example do alot of video editing or other work which is kinda heavy on the cpu then yes. However if you talk about internet and gaming most likely not.
With the 5600G hovering around $130 is it worth the extra $100 for two more cores and 4 more threads?
If you have to ask, the answer is no. And maybe the 5700G will drop further in price.
The 5600G[amd.com] has 7 CUs for the graphics, while the 5700G has 8 CUs. AMD learned their lesson with Rembrandt; the 6-core has 6 CUs, and the 8-core has 12 CUs. 50% instead of 87.5%.
And then you don't get sucked into the 12th generation Intel z690 boards which are insanely expensive.
Considering that many of us are starting to forget how scarce gpus were... I consider this the best zen 3 offering that AMD provided. As with the i5 12600k from Intel.
Some of the reviews show where it beats the 5800 in certain tasks but if you're going to be a late gamer and never add a GPU I'd get the 5700 g if you're going to get a GPU I would get the 5700g as well you're going to need that extra core.
5700G plenty fast for moderate gaming with igpu or excellent gaming with your own GPU.
What is this like 4% slower than the 5800 x but you get with the integrated Vega 8 graphics. Do your diligence in some tests the actual igpu outperform the dedicated GPU it's no slouch.
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And then you don't get sucked into the 12th generation Intel z690 boards which are insanely expensive.
Considering that many of us are starting to forget how scarce gpus were... I consider this the best zen 3 offering that AMD provided. As with the i5 12600k from Intel.
Some of the reviews show where it beats the 5800 in certain tasks but if you're going to be a late gamer and never add a GPU I'd get the 5700 g if you're going to get a GPU I would get the 5700g as well you're going to need that extra core.
5700G plenty fast for moderate gaming with igpu or excellent gaming with your own GPU.
What is this like 4% slower than the 5800 x but you get with the integrated Vega 8 graphics. Do your diligence in some tests the actual igpu outperform the dedicated GPU it's no slouch.
TechSpot:
"When it comes to more CPU limited gaming with a discrete GPU, the Ryzen 7 5700G isn't amazing, and it appears as though having all the cores crammed into a single die doesn't help, rather cache capacity plays a much more vital role.
That doesn't mean performance is bad and it's the best we've seen from an AMD APU so far. The 5700G is a powerful CPU that was able to match the gaming performance of Core i5-10600K and I think most will agree, that's a pretty great gaming CPU.
If you were expecting 5800X-levels of performance, you might be a bit disappointed to learn that on average the 5700G was 11% slower. However, do note we're using an RTX 3090 at 1080p, so those gaming at 1440p or higher, with a fast but not extreme GPU, there'll be basically no difference between these two Ryzen 7 processors."
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Would this work with b450 board, to upgrade my 2700x? And should I even upgrade that, is it worth it?
i don't know if i have any real performance issues with the 2700x yet, but it's 3 gens old and this seems to be a good time to buy 5xxx, so I'm thinking why not! (i can offload my 2700x to my dad for one of his work computers).
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5700G has an iGPU. 5800X does not.
If you can get nice deals on a motherboard, CPU, and DDR4, going with dead-end AM4 is legit. These CPUs are more than enough for most people, most people do not actually upgrade CPUs, AM5 CPUs and motherboards will be expensive at launch, and DDR5 is still expensive.
If you want to experience the AM5 upgrade path, I'd recommend waiting for something much cheaper than a $300 7600X to appear, and DDR5 to get cheaper. Or wait until 7800X3D if you actually want the ultimate gaming performance in 2023.
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5700G has an iGPU. 5800X does not.
For the longer term, it's better to sink money into an AM5 socket and DDR5 memory instead of older tech for most people, unless the budget is tight.
For the longer term, it's better to sink money into an AM5 socket and DDR5 memory instead of older tech for most people, unless the budget is tight.
If you can get nice deals on a motherboard, CPU, and DDR4, going with dead-end AM4 is legit. These CPUs are more than enough for most people, most people do not actually upgrade CPUs, AM5 CPUs and motherboards will be expensive at launch, and DDR5 is still expensive.
If you want to experience the AM5 upgrade path, I'd recommend waiting for something much cheaper than a $300 7600X to appear, and DDR5 to get cheaper. Or wait until 7800X3D if you actually want the ultimate gaming performance in 2023.
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The 5600G [amd.com] has 7 CUs for the graphics, while the 5700G has 8 CUs. AMD learned their lesson with Rembrandt; the 6-core has 6 CUs, and the 8-core has 12 CUs. 50% instead of 87.5%.
5700G has an iGPU. 5800X does not.
Considering that many of us are starting to forget how scarce gpus were... I consider this the best zen 3 offering that AMD provided. As with the i5 12600k from Intel.
Some of the reviews show where it beats the 5800 in certain tasks but if you're going to be a late gamer and never add a GPU I'd get the 5700 g if you're going to get a GPU I would get the 5700g as well you're going to need that extra core.
5700G plenty fast for moderate gaming with igpu or excellent gaming with your own GPU.
What is this like 4% slower than the 5800 x but you get with the integrated Vega 8 graphics. Do your diligence in some tests the actual igpu outperform the dedicated GPU it's no slouch.
Considering that many of us are starting to forget how scarce gpus were... I consider this the best zen 3 offering that AMD provided. As with the i5 12600k from Intel.
Some of the reviews show where it beats the 5800 in certain tasks but if you're going to be a late gamer and never add a GPU I'd get the 5700 g if you're going to get a GPU I would get the 5700g as well you're going to need that extra core.
5700G plenty fast for moderate gaming with igpu or excellent gaming with your own GPU.
What is this like 4% slower than the 5800 x but you get with the integrated Vega 8 graphics. Do your diligence in some tests the actual igpu outperform the dedicated GPU it's no slouch.
"When it comes to more CPU limited gaming with a discrete GPU, the Ryzen 7 5700G isn't amazing, and it appears as though having all the cores crammed into a single die doesn't help, rather cache capacity plays a much more vital role.
That doesn't mean performance is bad and it's the best we've seen from an AMD APU so far. The 5700G is a powerful CPU that was able to match the gaming performance of Core i5-10600K and I think most will agree, that's a pretty great gaming CPU.
If you were expecting 5800X-levels of performance, you might be a bit disappointed to learn that on average the 5700G was 11% slower. However, do note we're using an RTX 3090 at 1080p, so those gaming at 1440p or higher, with a fast but not extreme GPU, there'll be basically no difference between these two Ryzen 7 processors."
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i don't know if i have any real performance issues with the 2700x yet, but it's 3 gens old and this seems to be a good time to buy 5xxx, so I'm thinking why not! (i can offload my 2700x to my dad for one of his work computers).
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