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Product Name: | Siglent Technologies SDS1104X-E 100Mhz Digital Oscilloscope 4 channels Standard Decoder, Grey |
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Model Number: | SDS1104X-E |
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Siglent is definitely a value-for-money option. I'd noticed a few years back where Keysight had started creating some nice offers in the education space for entry-level oscilloscopes, but they simply don't have to try as hard as their competitors. So many modern oscilloscopes from even basic brands (also see Rigol) are simply incredible devices well beyond the needs of an average hobbyist. Everyone sets their own needs/budget and honestly for me I've never beat the value and need for much beyond my old Analog Discovery 2 that I grabbed at a sub-$200 education discount way back when...
Good luck!
Jon
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USA engineering students have been and are on a slow steady rise for basically forever. The US is a far more lucrative place for engineers than almost anywhere in the world so it attracts lots of international engineers. In addition, US companies are more willing to give good, challenging projects to younger engineers so the best want to work on the best projects and are further attracted.
To be blunt, US companies love low paid engineers who cannot quit due to green card restrictions. The green card holders are often held back a bit since many come from schools that emphasize theory rather than practice; in the US engineers do their own lab work and that's a problem for even advanced degree holders. This is slowly changing in China and India as they work to improve the programs but is expensive.
This scope? It looks decent. I disagree with the advice about salvage scopes. They are cheaper but color screens, easy recording of screens, easy transfer of data, easy remote use, etc. are worth the money. At 12.2 x 5.12 x 5.91 inches and 6.61 lbs this is easy to fit on a typical home bench.
Anyone know of a matching/equivalent logic analyzer for cheap as well?
Edit - just fired up my Saleae Logic 16 (which i bought in 2013, and probably haven't used in 7 years) and it connected to their latest software, performed a firmware upgrade and appears to work just fine. It's not a super cheap device, but my limited experience suggests it works really well
Also, I suspect it can be frustrating to get asked that repeatedly by people like me
And please do not take this as an attack...because I assure you that it is not meant that way...but I would like to point out how these types of responses come across to somebody like me that is asking...
Borrowing from your doctor anaolgy..as I think it is a good one.
I am not expecting to pick up a book and become a doctor.
I was hoping to pick up something that would give basics and point me towards the best path to becoming a doctor.
it has been my experience, that when I ask for something to get started in this, I get told....pick up a book on electronics.
It is like saying...pick up a book about doctors.
So ...quacks? The biography of a doctor?
Nuclear Medicine? Holisitic medicine?
Medications from the horse and wagon days? Herb gardens with medicinal purposes?
Advancements in medical theory over the last 1000 years?
The chemical breakdown of psychotropics? The teardown of an X-Ray machine?
If I am a person that knows nothing about doctors or medicine, I do not yet know how to distinguish one from another very well....so this advice does nothing to assist in pointing to something that actually makes a good starting point.
And if I try to follow this vague direction, I will likely read 10 books, not being any closer to what I was trying to do than when I asked....and give up for the moment.....until the next time I get the urge and ask again.....hoping that this next time might go a little better.
My experience is that in most fields, there is that handful of books and videos...where the person who made it does an excellent job in breaking the basics down in an understandable way...and who can also do it in a way that is not like watching paint dry.
That is what I am looking for.
I saw the comment earlier from another poster about how Engineering has declined in this country. And while this is not an attack ...and this is certainly not an attack on you as you are hardly responsible for this condition....it might have something to do with people who treat these areas like secret clubs and openly laugh at people asking....saying something akin to...... You cant get there from here.
As I mentioned, I'm mostly self-taught and by nowhere near an expert, actually barely proficient at reading circuit diagrams. I have bought a few dozen books and while some are really good, there is no "magic bullet" by reading any few books. I'll repeat, experience is the best teacher. Now, you will need some basic knowledge and there are lots of books that will get you that. I'm going to make the assumption that you are intending to do "digital" electronics, i.e. working with RasPi projects, etc. instead of "analog" circuits (for example radio, TV, etc.). I suspect you'll find digital circuits easier too. Many of the books that I have were purchased at Half Price books, often for less than $10. If you have access to one of these kinds of book stores, I suggest checking out their technical section since older books really won't be outdated for what you need to learn, so you don't really need a recent book.
Here's a sampling of books that I have or am aware of that might be good to help you with what you might be looking for.
1) There's a series of (small) books written by Forrest Mims for Radio Shack from the early 80's. You might find scanned version of some of these by searching on the Internet for Mims.
2) Digital Electronics Guidebook with Projects (Predko). This is an older book (2002) that I think I got at HP books for a few bucks but it's likely the kind of book your most likely looking for. (Look for any kind of book on digital circuits).
3) Intermediate Robot Building (David Cook). This book goes through the process of building a rolling robot (like a Roomba) and goes into motor control, sensor integration, etc.
4) Practical Electronics for Inventors (Scherz). I really liked this book and it goes into a lot more detail and electronics theory but it is one of the best presentations I've seen.
5) Introductory Electronic Devices and Circuits (Paynter). This is actually a text book (again likely got it at HP books for cheap). It presents various circuits and components.
One of the reasons you won't find a book on how to read a circuit is that most of electronics is taught by introducing you to the various components, passive ones (resistors, capacitors, etc.) and active ones (transistors, opamps, etc.) and how various functions are created using each of these. You learn how to create filters, oscillators, etc. using each of these parts and then circuits are built from them. So what happens is that eventually you start looking at a new circuit and you can see how groups of components work together. For example, you may notice that there's 3-4 parts that work together to filter a signal, then pass that on to an amplifier section and then to additional processing. Or in a digital circuit, there may be a pull-up resistor or a voltage divider that is conditioning an input into some kind of IC chip.
Once again, I'm no expert, just someone that can appreciate where you're at and where you want to be.
With that, I'm not going to pollute this thread with any more off-topic discussion, but feel free to contact me directly if you have more questions.
Edit - as on topic info, I got my O-scope today and so far it seems like a nice unit. I did a quick test with it and adjusted the probes as specified in the manual and got an accurate square wave. I did notice that the last calibration of the unit was almost exactly one year ago (10/10/2021). I assume this is typical for all of these units.
Also, I suspect it can be frustrating to get asked that repeatedly by people like me
And please do not take this as an attack...because I assure you that it is not meant that way...but I would like to point out how these types of responses come across to somebody like me that is asking...
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A friend of mine works in the aircraft instrumentation industry, and has a (higher-end) Siglent scope on his bench. They do calibrations yearly.
In a Windows PC, Device Manager shows it as a "Realtek RTL8188EU Wireless LAN 802.11n USB 2.0 Network Adapter".
The TP-LInk TL-WN725N is currently less than $10. But if it's ever discontinued or jumps up in price, look for other USB adapters built around the Realtek RTL8188 chipset.
Enjoy!
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Per the manual, this is the "SBUS Digital Inputs" connector. It's used to connect the optional SLA-1016 [siglentna.com] 16-channel logic analyzer.