Western Digital has 14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive (WD140EFGX) on sale for $209.99. Shipping is free.
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Supports up to 180 TB/yr workload rate | Workload Rate is defined as the amount of user data transferred to or from the hard drive. Workload Rate is annualized (TB transferred ✕ (8760 / recorded power-on hours)). Workload Rate will vary depending on your hardware and software components and configurations.
NASware firmware for compatibility
Small or medium business NAS systems in a 24x7 environment
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Western Digital has 14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive (WD140EFGX) on sale for $209.99. Shipping is free.
Amazon has for Prime Members: 14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive (WD140EFGX) on sale for $209.99. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Community Member WittyKnob7338 for finding this deal.
Features:
Supports up to 180 TB/yr workload rate | Workload Rate is defined as the amount of user data transferred to or from the hard drive. Workload Rate is annualized (TB transferred ✕ (8760 / recorded power-on hours)). Workload Rate will vary depending on your hardware and software components and configurations.
NASware firmware for compatibility
Small or medium business NAS systems in a 24x7 environment
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This is a common misconception, especially for those that buy RAID-based storage arrays for home use. RAID is primarily for uptime (to survive hardware failures in places where downtime is extremely expensive), and it will work for that case. That's why it's commonly used in servers and datacenters.
In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
If you can't stand the idea of losing 14TB of data, then you need to back it up. RAID 1 won't save you from a large power surge or house fire. I lost 2 drives when the cooling fan failed and they were baked for weeks while I was on vacation. Backblaze is $130 for 2 years of unlimited backups so you can get 3 years of worry free backups for the cost of the extra drive.
Interesting - I never thought of an offsite backup because of the volume of data but that might be an option, especially now I have 1Gbps up too. Thanks.
No. Raid will not help you if you lose a disk. Buy 2, use 1 to back up the other.
Not sure I understand - isn't that the point of RAID 1 - same data is written to both disks so if one goes down, you are notified and can replace the faulty one?
Don't RAID 1 if you just want a primary and a backup. Have a nightly backup from one drive to the other (there are a million way to do this, I'll leave the specifics up to you). This extends the life of the backup drive and you don't have to worry about all the RAID overhead/issues.
Yep understood and thanks. The earlier comment that proposed using an off site option is interesting though too.
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Not sure I understand - isn't that the point of RAID 1 - same data is written to both disks so if one goes down, you are notified and can replace the faulty one?
This is a common misconception, especially for those that buy RAID-based storage arrays for home use. RAID is primarily for uptime (to survive hardware failures in places where downtime is extremely expensive), and it will work for that case. That's why it's commonly used in servers and datacenters.
In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
This is a common misconception, especially for those that buy RAID-based storage arrays for home use. RAID is primarily for uptime (to survive hardware failures in places where downtime is extremely expensive), and it will work for that case. That's why it's commonly used in servers and datacenters.
In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
Yep - great info - thank you for taking the time to post.
Same here. Unless folks are talking about the abandoned cart coupons, I was unable to get the new visitor coupon to stack with this deal.
Yes I did get the Abandoned cart coupon. I did do Paypal (12% - not counting on it, though) and pay through Chase +paypal for an additional 5% discount.
This is a bit overkill but what the heck is everyone putting on their drives? Research papers?
Linux isos of course.
On a serious note, everyone has different needs. Some people want to have a Plex collection, they rip their DVD/BD..etc and can access to it from everywhere. Other people use it as a photo/video/document backup replacing GDrive, photos, icloud, videos,footage..etc.
Others love to selfhost everything they can and be on control of their data. Others are all of the above, and trust me it starts to fill. Again, this is not for everyone either, an average user would never fill 14tb.
I am running raid 5 and lost 2 drives during the heat wave. Thinking about going with raid 6 which can support two drives going out. What are you guys running in terms raid? I'm Considering running raid 5 again (trade off is support of 1 drive failure at max but I get more disk space) and running a daily usb backup. Or go raid 6 . I'll do usb backup either way.
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This is a common misconception, especially for those that buy RAID-based storage arrays for home use. RAID is primarily for uptime (to survive hardware failures in places where downtime is extremely expensive), and it will work for that case. That's why it's commonly used in servers and datacenters.
In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
Not entirely true. RAID-1 is for data redundancy over all else. No, a RAID array won't protect you from accidentally deleting and overwriting a file and malicious code. It will protect you from a drive failure and that's exactly what it's for. I run RAID-1 arrays on my home and work computers. Both are synced via Resilio and both are backed up via Macrium to a third local disk. RAID arrays don't replace backups and backups don't replace RAID arrays. They work together.
Not entirely true. RAID-1 is for data redundancy over all else. No, a RAID array won't protect you from accidentally deleting and overwriting a file and malicious code. It will protect you from a drive failure and that's exactly what it's for. I run RAID-1 arrays on my home and work computers. Both are synced via Resilio and both are backed up via Macrium to a third local disk. RAID arrays don't replace backups and backups don't replace RAID arrays. They work together.
If you don't want to use Resilio, can you use Google Drive or Synology Drive?
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Wasn't able to get the 15% abandon cart but the PayPal 12% went through, got an email stating I had 5,039 points pending which is worth $50.39 for 2 drives I ordered. comes out to $13.21 per TB before tax. Not bad
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In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
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In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
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In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
On a serious note, everyone has different needs. Some people want to have a Plex collection, they rip their DVD/BD..etc and can access to it from everywhere. Other people use it as a photo/video/document backup replacing GDrive, photos, icloud, videos,footage..etc.
Others love to selfhost everything they can and be on control of their data. Others are all of the above, and trust me it starts to fill. Again, this is not for everyone either, an average user would never fill 14tb.
In most environments, the primary cause of data loss isn't hardware failure, but user error or another problem (logical disk corruption; accidentally over-writing data, etc). For example, if you accidentally delete some files from your primary drive, in a RAID (mirrored or parity) configuration, the change would commit almost immediately. In a backup scenario (where you use a script or other tool to periodically copy data), you could just use the backup copy. Furthermore, with backups, you can keep many generations of past data; it's all too common to realize you've deleted or over-written something a week or two later, and RAID won't help you get that back. There are potential performance benefits of some RAID configurations, but that's also probably not appropriate for most home use purposes. Also, keep in mind that the more drives you have in a parity-based RAID array, the LESS protected it is (because of the risk of a double-fault). There are other issues, too, like the NAS itself or disk controller/computer being a single point-of-failure.
Unless people are using their at-home NAS devices for other things (like runnning various thin server applications), I think they'd be best-served by using backup methods and online/off-site backups (where possible). Also, on very large drives, think about what data is really important and can't easily be replaced. In most cases, things like games and applications can easily be downloaded again. I hope this helps.
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