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SATA 32-Piece 3/8-Inch Drive SAE Ratcheting Wrenches and Extensions APEX tools same as GearWrench $59.99

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A great way to pick up the commonly used 3/8-Inch drive set and Taiwan's best-quality stuff. It's also the "professional" tier 3 set that they manufacture same as GearWrench 120xp. I also noticed the wrenches look to be spline which is a bonus because they could come in 6point,12point, some other weird unorthodox box end lol, or the proven best spline Wink.

Specs:
Manufacturer: Apex Tool Group // Same As GEARWRENCH
Item Model Number: ST09044
Finish: Polished
Material: Alloy Steel
Country of Origin: Taiwan
Usage: Professional
Measurement System: Metric (0o this is wrong maybe a few metric sockets but most is SAE)
In The Box:
(1) 3/8" Dr. 120 Position Ratchet
(3) 3/8" Dr. Wobble Extensions
(1) 3/8" Dr. Universal Joint
(11) 3/8" Dr. 6 Pt. Standard SAE Sockets
(9) 3/8" Dr. 6 Pt. Deep SAE Sockets
(7) 120 Position SAE Combination Ratcheting Wrenches

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10-14-2022 at 06:51 AM.
10-14-2022 at 06:51 AM.
I can buy a 65 inch Sony TV for $499 or for $3,500. Just because it says Sony made it and it's a 65 inch TV, that doesn't make them the same.

So my question is, how do you know that the quality of these tools is the same as the GearWrench, who make very good tools?
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10-14-2022 at 07:03 AM.
10-14-2022 at 07:03 AM.
Quote from Rebound :
I can buy a 65 inch Sony TV for $499 or for $3,500. Just because it says Sony made it and it's a 65 inch TV, that doesn't make them the same.

So my question is, how do you know that the quality of these tools is the same as the GearWrench, who make very good tools?
Oh, they are solid tools look up project farm best ratchet test on youtube. I own them as well so from experience.
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10-14-2022 at 09:26 AM.
10-14-2022 at 09:26 AM.
Quote from Squishsquash :
Oh, they are solid tools look up project farm best ratchet test on youtube. I own them as well so from experience.
The Project Farm ratchet video [youtube.com] is of different models and the Gearwrench he tested performed much better than the SATA, though the SATA earned high marks for being cheap but decent.

While this SATA ratchet looks very similar to the Gearwrench 120xp, and even if they are coming out of the same factory, there are many manufacturing steps that could vary between the brands. We don't know what quality of steel is used or what kind of machining, heat treating, and coating processes they go through, or what quality control measures are taken. And I haven't seen an objective comparison of the 120 tooth ratchets that goes beyond "well, they look the same", to be able to ascertain any differences.

So while SATA tools appear to be a great value for pretty decent tools, the jury is still out on how these actually compare to the Gearwrench equivalents.
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Kingcodez
10-14-2022 at 10:03 AM.
10-14-2022 at 10:03 AM.
We have gear wrench at home
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10-14-2022 at 07:14 PM.
10-14-2022 at 07:14 PM.
Quote from jeff34270 :
The Project Farm ratchet video [youtube.com] is of different models and the Gearwrench he tested performed much better than the SATA, though the SATA earned high marks for being cheap but decent.

While this SATA ratchet looks very similar to the Gearwrench 120xp, and even if they are coming out of the same factory, there are many manufacturing steps that could vary between the brands. We don't know what quality of steel is used or what kind of machining, heat treating, and coating processes they go through, or what quality control measures are taken. And I haven't seen an objective comparison of the 120 tooth ratchets that goes beyond "well, they look the same", to be able to ascertain any differences.

So while SATA tools appear to be a great value for pretty decent tools, the jury is still out on how these actually compare to the Gearwrench equivalents.
BINGO!!!

i work for a company that makes products for different price points. they might look alike but they are not the same.
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10-15-2022 at 05:04 AM.
10-15-2022 at 05:04 AM.
Quote from jeff34270 :
The Project Farm ratchet video [youtube.com] is of different models and the Gearwrench he tested performed much better than the SATA, though the SATA earned high marks for being cheap but decent.

While this SATA ratchet looks very similar to the Gearwrench 120xp, and even if they are coming out of the same factory, there are many manufacturing steps that could vary between the brands. We don't know what quality of steel is used or what kind of machining, heat treating, and coating processes they go through, or what quality control measures are taken. And I haven't seen an objective comparison of the 120 tooth ratchets that goes beyond "well, they look the same", to be able to ascertain any differences.

So while SATA tools appear to be a great value for pretty decent tools, the jury is still out on how these actually compare to the Gearwrench equivalents.
No offense but I think we are getting off base the SATA tools are sweet. Look up their own specific reviews for their stuff. I get electronics and even tools can have different materials and quality but usually, you can track that down to manufacturing, and a lot of time they don't even come from the same plant. It's a deal on quality warrantied tools don't buy them if you don't like them...
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10-15-2022 at 06:22 AM.
10-15-2022 at 06:22 AM.
Quote from Squishsquash :
No offense but I think we are getting off base the SATA tools are sweet. Look up their own specific reviews for their stuff. I get electronics and even tools can have different materials and quality but usually, you can track that down to manufacturing, and a lot of time they don't even come from the same plant. It's a deal on quality warrantied tools don't buy them if you don't like them...
I agree that SATA are likely very good tools for the money, what I question is the equivalence to Gearwrench.
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JohnW7940
10-15-2022 at 07:18 AM.
10-15-2022 at 07:18 AM.
Sata and gearwrench china stuff is most likely the same. Over the years the price has gone up and the quality way down. Taiwan stuff years ago from gearwrench wasn't bad. The new stuff out of china not so much. Just an fyi looks like gearwrench china sockets are made in same factory as harbor freight. See link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAhONipK0_w Might as well go to harbor and buy their stuff at least its easy to warranty.

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10-15-2022 at 07:44 AM.
10-15-2022 at 07:44 AM.
Quote from JohnW7940 :
Sata and gearwrench china stuff is most likely the same. Over the years the price has gone up and the quality way down. Taiwan stuff years ago from gearwrench wasn't bad. The new stuff out of china not so much. Just an fyi looks like gearwrench china sockets are made in same factory as harbor freight. See link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAhONipK0_w Might as well go to harbor and buy their stuff at least its easy to warranty.
OMG, I was interested to see whatever info that video had, but couldn't get through the first 30 seconds. Not sure I'd put much faith in that guy, "dance in your pants..."
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10-15-2022 at 10:05 AM.
10-15-2022 at 10:05 AM.
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OMG, I was interested to see whatever info that video had, but couldn't get through the first 30 seconds. Not sure I'd put much faith in that guy, "dance in your pants..."
Ha.. yeah he's a bit annoying but knows his tools. Fact he has a stamped gearwrench harbor socket shows its made in same factory in china though. Older taiwan gearwrench was much better and middle of the road tool. The new stuff not so much. I remember seeing gearwrench wrenches at sears just before they closed with sata stamped on the one side of it. So to me same china soft steel tool with higher price and lower quality trend they have been on.
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10-15-2022 at 11:09 AM.
10-15-2022 at 11:09 AM.
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Ha.. yeah he's a bit annoying but knows his tools. Fact he has a stamped gearwrench harbor socket shows its made in same factory in china though. Older taiwan gearwrench was much better and middle of the road tool. The new stuff not so much. I remember seeing gearwrench wrenches at sears just before they closed with sata stamped on the one side of it. So to me same china soft steel tool with higher price and lower quality trend they have been on.
If a Gearwrench stamped socket made its way into a Harbor Freight kit, then it does seem as though they're from the same factory. However, that they're from the same factory doesn't necessarily mean they're the same quality.

Same with the Sears Gearwrench/SATA stamping. Somebody in the factory obviously screwed up, but again, same factory doesn't equate to same quality.

When it comes to Gearwrench, I only have the Taiwan stuff. There's a notable quality difference between the big box store made in China stuff and the more professional level Taiwanese kits.
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10-15-2022 at 12:53 PM.
10-15-2022 at 12:53 PM.
Quote from jeff34270 :
If a Gearwrench stamped socket made its way into a Harbor Freight kit, then it does seem as though they're from the same factory. However, that they're from the same factory doesn't necessarily mean they're the same quality.

Same with the Sears Gearwrench/SATA stamping. Somebody in the factory obviously screwed up, but again, same factory doesn't equate to same quality.

When it comes to Gearwrench, I only have the Taiwan stuff. There's a notable quality difference between the big box store made in China stuff and the more professional level Taiwanese kits
The gearwrench stamp was on the socket along with the pittsburgh stamp over each other.

It wasnt just one wrench is was sets and sets. sata is a branch off of gearwrench at the time I guess they decided to stamp them with both maybe to get the sata name out there a bit more.
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10-17-2022 at 01:47 AM.
10-17-2022 at 01:47 AM.
I'd choose Taiwan made Sata over China made Gearwrench anytime, and did when I ordered 2 sets of Sata reversible ratcheting wrenches last week. Hopefully the descriptions are correct.
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