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Got the 32gb for $99
I have a few of the previous generations (4k first gen 2017) in 64gb and never needed the extra space.
I've used Roku, firetstick, builtin sony and samsung streamers. Apple TV is my favorite by far. You can use your regular tv remote to control apple tv. If you have an iphone it will auto pause tv when you get a call i you want.
4K (first generation)
At an Apple Special Event on September 12, 2017, Apple announced the Apple TV 4K which supports 2160p output, HDR10, Dolby Vision, and includes a faster Apple A10X Fusion chip supporting HEVC hardware decoding. Dolby Atmos support was added in tvOS 12. Following the announcement of the new models, the 64 GB version of the Apple TV HD was discontinued. Externally it is similar to the 4th generation model, with the only differences being the addition of vents on the base, the removal of the USB-C port, and the addition of a tactile white ring around the Menu button on the included Siri Remote.
4K (second generation)
On April 20, 2021, Apple announced an updated Apple TV 4K with the A12 Bionic chip, support for high frame rate HDR, HDMI 2.1, and Wi-Fi 6. Its HDMI port supports ARC and eARC, which allows other sources plugged into the television to output audio through Apple TV, including to AirPlay speakers like HomePod. It also has the ability to pair with the ambient light sensor on iPhones with Face ID to optimize its color output, a feature that was also extended to older Apple TVs with tvOS 14.5. AirPlay supports high frame rate HDR playback, allowing videos shot on the iPhone 12 Pro in Dolby Vision 4K 60fps to be mirrored in full resolution. Following the announcement, the previous Apple TV 4K with an A10X Fusion chip was discontinued.
The model also comes with a thicker redesigned Siri Remote with a circular touchpad with navigational buttons, as well as power and mute buttons. The remote does not include an accelerometer and gyroscope, which were present in the previous Siri Remote, making it incompatible with some games. The remote is compatible with previous generation tvOS-based Apple TVs and ships with an updated SKU of the Apple TV HD.
4K (third generation)
On October 18, 2022, Apple announced an updated Apple TV 4K with the A15 Bionic chip, reduced weight and dimensions, and support for HDR10+. It comes in two configurations, a Wi-Fi-only model with 64 GB of storage, and a higher-priced 128GB model with Wi-Fi, Ethernet and a Thread radio. The included Siri Remote charges via USB-C instead of Lightning.
I still use my AppleTV from 2018 and it's faster than my 2021 Firestick. You'll get 6 years out of this so it's worth 3 firesticks plus you won't get bombarded by amazon and can do screen mirroring if you have an iphone. what would you rather have?
It's easy to mistake one ATV model for another since they all look alike but this is the old HD model, not 4K. All the specs are way outdated. Do not buy even if you only own HD TVs. Spend the extra $20 for the 2021 ATV 4K.
Why not order newest 2022 64gb one for $129 which is only $15 more for the 64gb?
The 2021 64GB model has a gigabit ethernet port, and it can serve as an apple home hub (thread support). The 2022 64GB model is missing both of those features. I'd rather have the 2021 64GB model than the 2022 64GB model. However, I'd rather have the 2022 128GB model than either of them. It has all the features plus a faster processor and more memory.
First time buyer of Apple TV: I purchased solely to stream movies, shows, and sports from my phone. It fits that perfectly. Setup is super easy. I highly recommend if you have access to pirate sites.
I have constant issues with the Crunchyroll and HiDive app on my Roku Ultra, on a 4K TV. Going to grab on of these and see if it's better.
It seems many anime fans don't actually run 4K TVs as I get a gaggle of "Mine is fine" when I report complaints only to have CR come back and says "Yeah it's a problem with the Ultra when using a 4K TV"
That's just any group of people when you bring up an issue with something they'd rather pretend doesn't exist. It's very frustrating and will literally happen anywhere. Audiophiles, tech geeks, tool bros... Crunchyroll's app is really bad on Android TV/FireTV so I might check it out on my Apple 4k 1st gen too.
Why not order newest 2022 64gb one for $129 which is only $15 more for the 64gb?
Depends on needs. 2022 64GB doesn't have Ethernet port or Thread support. Also the faster processor and extra storage in the 2022 is really of use only for those who play iTunes Store games on their ATV.
So, in my case, as example, I am slowly building out a "smart home" so Thread support is important to me. I also have one ATV hooked directly to my router's satellite, so Ethernet is key too. I don't play games on ATV. So 2021 and saving $20 a box (I'm upgrading 3) makes sense for my situation.
Depends on needs. 2022 64GB doesn't have Ethernet port or Thread support. Also the faster processor and extra storage in the 2022 is really of use only for those who play iTunes Store games on their ATV.
So, in my case, as example, I am slowly building out a "smart home" so Thread support is important to me. I also have one ATV hooked directly to my router's satellite, so Ethernet is key too. I don't play games on ATV. So 2021 and saving $20 a box (I'm upgrading 3) makes sense for my situation.
This, I don't need an extra 32GB but gigabit Ethernet is mandatory, especially when playing 4k videos from my Plex server
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That's just any group of people when you bring up an issue with something they'd rather pretend doesn't exist. It's very frustrating and will literally happen anywhere. Audiophiles, tech geeks, tool bros... Crunchyroll's app is really bad on Android TV/FireTV so I might check it out on my Apple 4k 1st gen too.
So right now it's a love hate relationship. The app works great, I love the Apple TV remote. The problem is a LOT of functionality doesn't exist in the Apple TV app. I HATE that it doesn't have the "Your Watchlist" section. With the Roku app it shows me when there is a new episode released, on the Apple TV app you have to go down to the "updated" section and scroll though it and as I'm sure you know "updated" also means when a dub is updated or a new language is added so it's a pain to track down new episodes for the shows you watch.
I find myself opening up the Roku to see if there are new episodes then switch over to Apple TV to actually watch them.
I have a 2018 Apple TV 4k and have been liking it compared to my older Fire Tv. I just bought the 2021 Apple TV 4k to replace the fire tv. I was on the fence if I should pony up the extra $40-50 for the 2022 ethernet model but ultimately figured I'm unlikely to notice a big enough performance difference to justify the 50% more up-front cost.
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Have you compared it to the nvidia shield? I have the first gen shield and it's the best streaming device i have. I have firesticks (1st, 2nd, gen; 4k and 4k max verisons also), chromecast, roku, etc. but not an apple tv.
Yeah Nvidia shield tv is still the king just because of the functionality it offers. Apple TV though has great hardware and is a good option for those who just want something that works well and works well with apple ecosystem. Nvidia shield is also more expensive though compared to apple tv
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So this 2021 version is on sale from $179 -> $100. But the newest 2022 one that just came out last month starts at $129. Wouldn't that be a better deal?
So this 2021 version is on sale from $179 -> $100. But the newest 2022 one that just came out last month starts at $129. Wouldn't that be a better deal?
The new one does HDR10+. If you have a Samsung TV, then that's what you need if you want that standard with an Apple TV.
Otherwise the old one has an ethernet port and does Thread networking (not available at the $129 model for 2022 - for that, you'd have to spend another $20). The old one is overpowered so is good for most people unless you want HDR10+.
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For those on the fence about getting the 2021 ATV with the 2022 version just releasing, I went ahead and purchased the 2021 version and have had no issues at all. It runs 4k content perfectly and ice noticed no Ui lag. There is at least one YouTube video showing 2021 v 2022 side by side navigating apps and playing videos and it's very very hard to tell a difference. Gaming you might notice the difference but I don't game on mine so I can't speak to performance and space isn't an issue at all.
I came from a fire stick 4k and a roku ultra 4k and the 2021 Apple tv blows them away performance wise. The fire stick Ui is a dumpster fire of your content squeezed inbetween tons of ads. I doubt I'd ever go back. We used it for a few days and moved on.
The roku ultra 4k performance was fine but the remote broke on me after only a few months (young kid and drops. Just didn't hold up). For $79 I wouldn't even consider it against a $99 ATV.
The Apple tv works amazing. The remote quality is a noticeable step up and more featured. You can set the TV button to go straight to your apps so you never see an ad (this is a big deal when compared to fire TV or roku). Double tapping the TV button brings up a navigation to quickly switch between open apps. Overall the Ui just feels smoother and better designed. Plex loads and navigates faster. The apps aren't shut down when you switch between them, they go into a suspended state, so if you switch between one app and another and then go back the original one will be where you left it instead of back at home. It also has YouTube Kids which is important to me because it allows me to limit the content my kid sees.
The one down side I've noticed is the Spotify app. Its not as good as the roku or the fire stick app. It's a known issue and Spotify issued a statement in April that they were looking into it but no update since then.
Overall unless you really have a need for more storage space or performance for games or really need HDR10+ I wouldn't spend the extra money to get the 2022 ATV. If you get the $129 version you're actually losing features compared to the 2021 version in exchange for the storage and performance. So if you want everything you're paying $149. I have no regrets about getting the 2021 version.
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I have a few of the previous generations (4k first gen 2017) in 64gb and never needed the extra space.
I've used Roku, firetstick, builtin sony and samsung streamers. Apple TV is my favorite by far. You can use your regular tv remote to control apple tv. If you have an iphone it will auto pause tv when you get a call i you want.
FYI- Apple just released the a new 2022 version. This deal is for the 2021 version
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4K (first generation)
At an Apple Special Event on September 12, 2017, Apple announced the Apple TV 4K which supports 2160p output, HDR10, Dolby Vision, and includes a faster Apple A10X Fusion chip supporting HEVC hardware decoding. Dolby Atmos support was added in tvOS 12. Following the announcement of the new models, the 64 GB version of the Apple TV HD was discontinued. Externally it is similar to the 4th generation model, with the only differences being the addition of vents on the base, the removal of the USB-C port, and the addition of a tactile white ring around the Menu button on the included Siri Remote.
4K (second generation)
On April 20, 2021, Apple announced an updated Apple TV 4K with the A12 Bionic chip, support for high frame rate HDR, HDMI 2.1, and Wi-Fi 6. Its HDMI port supports ARC and eARC, which allows other sources plugged into the television to output audio through Apple TV, including to AirPlay speakers like HomePod. It also has the ability to pair with the ambient light sensor on iPhones with Face ID to optimize its color output, a feature that was also extended to older Apple TVs with tvOS 14.5. AirPlay supports high frame rate HDR playback, allowing videos shot on the iPhone 12 Pro in Dolby Vision 4K 60fps to be mirrored in full resolution. Following the announcement, the previous Apple TV 4K with an A10X Fusion chip was discontinued.
The model also comes with a thicker redesigned Siri Remote with a circular touchpad with navigational buttons, as well as power and mute buttons. The remote does not include an accelerometer and gyroscope, which were present in the previous Siri Remote, making it incompatible with some games. The remote is compatible with previous generation tvOS-based Apple TVs and ships with an updated SKU of the Apple TV HD.
4K (third generation)
On October 18, 2022, Apple announced an updated Apple TV 4K with the A15 Bionic chip, reduced weight and dimensions, and support for HDR10+. It comes in two configurations, a Wi-Fi-only model with 64 GB of storage, and a higher-priced 128GB model with Wi-Fi, Ethernet and a Thread radio. The included Siri Remote charges via USB-C instead of Lightning.
64GB is $129, but removes Ethernet port for wifi only connections.
128GB model is $149 and retains the ethernet port
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It seems many anime fans don't actually run 4K TVs as I get a gaggle of "Mine is fine" when I report complaints only to have CR come back and says "Yeah it's a problem with the Ultra when using a 4K TV"
So, in my case, as example, I am slowly building out a "smart home" so Thread support is important to me. I also have one ATV hooked directly to my router's satellite, so Ethernet is key too. I don't play games on ATV. So 2021 and saving $20 a box (I'm upgrading 3) makes sense for my situation.
So, in my case, as example, I am slowly building out a "smart home" so Thread support is important to me. I also have one ATV hooked directly to my router's satellite, so Ethernet is key too. I don't play games on ATV. So 2021 and saving $20 a box (I'm upgrading 3) makes sense for my situation.
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I find myself opening up the Roku to see if there are new episodes then switch over to Apple TV to actually watch them.
Otherwise the old one has an ethernet port and does Thread networking (not available at the $129 model for 2022 - for that, you'd have to spend another $20). The old one is overpowered so is good for most people unless you want HDR10+.
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I came from a fire stick 4k and a roku ultra 4k and the 2021 Apple tv blows them away performance wise. The fire stick Ui is a dumpster fire of your content squeezed inbetween tons of ads. I doubt I'd ever go back. We used it for a few days and moved on.
The roku ultra 4k performance was fine but the remote broke on me after only a few months (young kid and drops. Just didn't hold up). For $79 I wouldn't even consider it against a $99 ATV.
The Apple tv works amazing. The remote quality is a noticeable step up and more featured. You can set the TV button to go straight to your apps so you never see an ad (this is a big deal when compared to fire TV or roku). Double tapping the TV button brings up a navigation to quickly switch between open apps. Overall the Ui just feels smoother and better designed. Plex loads and navigates faster. The apps aren't shut down when you switch between them, they go into a suspended state, so if you switch between one app and another and then go back the original one will be where you left it instead of back at home. It also has YouTube Kids which is important to me because it allows me to limit the content my kid sees.
The one down side I've noticed is the Spotify app. Its not as good as the roku or the fire stick app. It's a known issue and Spotify issued a statement in April that they were looking into it but no update since then.
Overall unless you really have a need for more storage space or performance for games or really need HDR10+ I wouldn't spend the extra money to get the 2022 ATV. If you get the $129 version you're actually losing features compared to the 2021 version in exchange for the storage and performance. So if you want everything you're paying $149. I have no regrets about getting the 2021 version.
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