Amazon.com has 10-Piece Amazon Basics Stainless Steel Bar Tools Set w/ Bamboo Stand Holder on sale for $16.90 > now $16.42. Shipping is free with Prime or on orders $25+.
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Includes:
24-ounce Cocktail Shaker
Spoon
Double Size Jigger (1/2 and 1 ounce)
Spring Strainer
Ice Tongs
Double-lever Corkscrew
Cocktail Muddler
2 Pourers
About this Product:
10-piece bar tools set for mixing drinks; ideal for a home, party, or bar; thoughtful housewarming gift idea
Also includes a bamboo stand holder for neatly displaying and storing the bar tools
Durable 18/8 stainless steel tools are abrasion resistant and rust proof
About this Offer: This sale price is $1.70 less than pre-sale price of $18.60 per price history.
Amazon Return Policy: For the 2022 holiday season, returnable items purchased between October 11 and December 25, 2022 can be returned until January 31, 2023.
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Amazon.com has 10-Piece Amazon Basics Stainless Steel Bar Tools Set w/ Bamboo Stand Holder on sale for $16.90 > now $16.42. Shipping is free with Prime or on orders $25+.
Thanks community member ImaPuppy for sharing this deal
Includes:
24-ounce Cocktail Shaker
Spoon
Double Size Jigger (1/2 and 1 ounce)
Spring Strainer
Ice Tongs
Double-lever Corkscrew
Cocktail Muddler
2 Pourers
About this Product:
10-piece bar tools set for mixing drinks; ideal for a home, party, or bar; thoughtful housewarming gift idea
Also includes a bamboo stand holder for neatly displaying and storing the bar tools
Durable 18/8 stainless steel tools are abrasion resistant and rust proof
About this Offer: This sale price is $1.70 less than pre-sale price of $18.60 per price history.
Amazon Return Policy: For the 2022 holiday season, returnable items purchased between October 11 and December 25, 2022 can be returned until January 31, 2023.
Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer
About this Store:
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Model: Amazon Basics 10-Piece Stainless Steel Bar Tools Set with Bamboo Stand Holder
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So, Amazon's discounting algo works in 2 ways on their own products, and I'm going to use an example to highlight it.
First, when Amazon introduces new products under their own brands, they often discount them heavily from the jump. They do this for myriad reasons, chief among them to gain quick sales and favorable reviews (since people tend to review things on a relative value basis). Two recent kitchen item examples of a "just released with no real ccc history" items include:
Both of these products, looking back in hindsight, were released with substantially lower prices than their "normal" run price for various reasons. I bought them both and they're all clearly worth more than their initial price in terms of relative build quality to known brands (whom Amazon has likely contracted out to make these things). But at the time, you wouldn't have known that because they had basically no ccc history as they were new products. So, when they were first released and no one saw them, they trickled down in price from the initially already lower than normal price that Amazon intended by, say, 6%. At the time if you had clicked on those you would have seen a "6% discount" when in reality the discount was the amount off the intended list AND the 6% off that.
So, this bar set is the same, it was just released November 1, will go up in price soon once enough of them have been purchased at these discounted prices, and then people will stop buying them but they will have favorable reviews built up from this initial low price release. So, when I say "at least 60% off list" what I'm saying is, once this speciifc price expires, these will go up to at least $35-40 for the set. If you don't believe me, check back in a month or so, maybe sooner.
The second way it works is if sales are slow and/or they need to clear a warehouse bin for one of their items due to logistics/purchasing/inventory, there's the "staircase effect" you're probably familiar with from ccc in which the price will slowly trickle down over days, weeks, months, rarely years but sometimes. Usually there's a limit to this even if the product isn't selling and once it reaches 85% or so, it will pop back up. This is not one of those items because it's just been released. It could become one of those discounted items in the future though, if it sells poorly near the "normal" price, in which case it'll trickle down to where we are now, or a bit further.
Anyway, hope this helps explain what's going on. I'm not a shill, I don't care about the retailer or brand, I've posted from all over the place but tend to stick to Amazon because that's where I'm good at finding deals and understanding how pricing mechanisms work.
Edit: Now that this deal has reached "popular" you'll probably see this pricing effect take place sooner and the sets will jump higher in price within days, as long as enough are sold.
Where is the 60% coming from? Triple Cs say this is less than a dollar off the normal price. Why so many upvotes? Is this a case of people not doing their research or is there some shilling going on here?
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Where is the 60% coming from? Triple Cs say this is less than a dollar off the normal price. Why so many upvotes? Is this a case of people not doing their research or is there some shilling going on here?
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Where is the 60% coming from? Triple Cs say this is less than a dollar off the normal price. Why so many upvotes? Is this a case of people not doing their research or is there some shilling going on here?
So, Amazon's discounting algo works in 2 ways on their own products, and I'm going to use an example to highlight it.
First, when Amazon introduces new products under their own brands, they often discount them heavily from the jump. They do this for myriad reasons, chief among them to gain quick sales and favorable reviews (since people tend to review things on a relative value basis). Two recent kitchen item examples of a "just released with no real ccc history" items include:
Both of these products, looking back in hindsight, were released with substantially lower prices than their "normal" run price for various reasons. I bought them both and they're all clearly worth more than their initial price in terms of relative build quality to known brands (whom Amazon has likely contracted out to make these things). But at the time, you wouldn't have known that because they had basically no ccc history as they were new products. So, when they were first released and no one saw them, they trickled down in price from the initially already lower than normal price that Amazon intended by, say, 6%. At the time if you had clicked on those you would have seen a "6% discount" when in reality the discount was the amount off the intended list AND the 6% off that.
So, this bar set is the same, it was just released November 1, will go up in price soon once enough of them have been purchased at these discounted prices, and then people will stop buying them but they will have favorable reviews built up from this initial low price release. So, when I say "at least 60% off list" what I'm saying is, once this speciifc price expires, these will go up to at least $35-40 for the set. If you don't believe me, check back in a month or so, maybe sooner.
The second way it works is if sales are slow and/or they need to clear a warehouse bin for one of their items due to logistics/purchasing/inventory, there's the "staircase effect" you're probably familiar with from ccc in which the price will slowly trickle down over days, weeks, months, rarely years but sometimes. Usually there's a limit to this even if the product isn't selling and once it reaches 85% or so, it will pop back up. This is not one of those items because it's just been released. It could become one of those discounted items in the future though, if it sells poorly near the "normal" price, in which case it'll trickle down to where we are now, or a bit further.
Anyway, hope this helps explain what's going on. I'm not a shill, I don't care about the retailer or brand, I've posted from all over the place but tend to stick to Amazon because that's where I'm good at finding deals and understanding how pricing mechanisms work.
Edit: Now that this deal has reached "popular" you'll probably see this pricing effect take place sooner and the sets will jump higher in price within days, as long as enough are sold.
Last edited by ImaPuppy November 10, 2022 at 06:44 AM.
My 2 cents. It all depends on what drinks you are doing to make and how frequently.
I have a similar set without the stand and corkscrew, ended up using only shaker + pourers from it. Already replaced the jigger with twice larger 2oz/1oz version (thicker walls, rounded edges) - it feels better/safer in hands and takes less time when you make 3-4 servings of margarita at a time.
Bottom line - good and inexpensive set for the starters to try, but don't buy it for someone, who's already in business - they'd know better what they need.
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My 2 cents. It all depends on what drinks you are doing to make and how frequently.
I have a similar set without the stand and corkscrew, ended up using only shaker + pourers from it. Already replaced the jigger with twice larger 2oz/1oz version (thicker walls, rounded edges) - it feels better/safer in hands and takes less time when you make 3-4 servings of margarita at a time.
Bottom line - good and inexpensive set for the starters to try, but don't buy it for someone, who's already in business - they'd know better what they need.
Agreed, and to take it a bit further, if someone is seeing this post and IS looking for something for a professional bartender (still not advised but if you must), then check out the Cocktail Kingdom products. Specifically, if your friend/loved one doesn't have a good Hawthorne Strainer, they make one that many pros use for like $25.
the strainer looks completely useless, it's a junk set and if you are a beginner just get decent shaker cups and a real strainer, don't worry so much about spoons, muddlers, stoppers, etc
cocktail kingdom is good, but even the crap at Target is better than this, avoid "sets"
General rules of thumb about random third-party sellers on Amazon:
1. If they have long paragraphs as the description, it's bc they're trying to effectively "trick" Amazon's SEO rankings. Doubly so if the phrasing is weird and unnatural.
2. If there are 12,000+ reviews and you've never heard of the brand and it's from a third party, a large chunk of those are likely fraudulent
3. Don't buy from third parties on Amazon if a "sold by" Amazon alternative of similar quality or features is available. Because this means Amazon themselves, a buyer employed within Amazon, has bought the item to sell directly through the company. And becuase Amazon will care about its reputation more than a random third party who can come and go as they please, the likelihood of getting a higher quality product is also higher. It's no guarantee but it's good practice. Note I'm not just talking about Amazon's brands which are hit or miss, I mean just things that are "sold by" them, of all different brands.
That's not to say the one you posted is poor, I don't know, just that it's not worth taking the risk.
Last edited by ImaPuppy November 10, 2022 at 10:08 AM.
the strainer looks completely useless, it's a junk set and if you are a beginner just get decent shaker cups and a real strainer, don't worry so much about spoons, muddlers, stoppers, etc
cocktail kingdom is good, but even the crap at Target is better than this, avoid "sets"
I don't disagree with this if you're into bartending. If you need something for a home bar you don't use much, this strainer is fine, it's whatever.
Mercer's Barfly brand is also pretty good and usually cheaper than CK.
No one who is actually into bartending either as a hobby or especially as a profession, should be buying any of this. The strainer on the shaker tins is a dead giveaway. No bartender uses something like a strainer top on shakers. You either use a real hawthorne, or you break the short tin (if you're in a hurry or work high volume bars) and do a dirty strain.
But anyway, that's obviously not who these sets are for since they cost like half of a single good quality hawthorne strainer.
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First, when Amazon introduces new products under their own brands, they often discount them heavily from the jump. They do this for myriad reasons, chief among them to gain quick sales and favorable reviews (since people tend to review things on a relative value basis). Two recent kitchen item examples of a "just released with no real ccc history" items include:
These cake pans: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08W62WVWX/ (first available Sept 5, initially priced around $6 for sets then popped up to $20)
These pans: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08S81CG3W (first available in April, 2022, initially priced around $13-15 per set then popped up to $57)
Both of these products, looking back in hindsight, were released with substantially lower prices than their "normal" run price for various reasons. I bought them both and they're all clearly worth more than their initial price in terms of relative build quality to known brands (whom Amazon has likely contracted out to make these things). But at the time, you wouldn't have known that because they had basically no ccc history as they were new products. So, when they were first released and no one saw them, they trickled down in price from the initially already lower than normal price that Amazon intended by, say, 6%. At the time if you had clicked on those you would have seen a "6% discount" when in reality the discount was the amount off the intended list AND the 6% off that.
So, this bar set is the same, it was just released November 1, will go up in price soon once enough of them have been purchased at these discounted prices, and then people will stop buying them but they will have favorable reviews built up from this initial low price release. So, when I say "at least 60% off list" what I'm saying is, once this speciifc price expires, these will go up to at least $35-40 for the set. If you don't believe me, check back in a month or so, maybe sooner.
The second way it works is if sales are slow and/or they need to clear a warehouse bin for one of their items due to logistics/purchasing/inventory, there's the "staircase effect" you're probably familiar with from ccc in which the price will slowly trickle down over days, weeks, months, rarely years but sometimes. Usually there's a limit to this even if the product isn't selling and once it reaches 85% or so, it will pop back up. This is not one of those items because it's just been released. It could become one of those discounted items in the future though, if it sells poorly near the "normal" price, in which case it'll trickle down to where we are now, or a bit further.
Anyway, hope this helps explain what's going on. I'm not a shill, I don't care about the retailer or brand, I've posted from all over the place but tend to stick to Amazon because that's where I'm good at finding deals and understanding how pricing mechanisms work.
Edit: Now that this deal has reached "popular" you'll probably see this pricing effect take place sooner and the sets will jump higher in price within days, as long as enough are sold.
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10 piece is 16.90 and the site says it's only 5% off?
These also were recently launched. Where is this at least 60% figure coming from?
Also both links go to the 10 piece.
10 pieces are for $16.9
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First, when Amazon introduces new products under their own brands, they often discount them heavily from the jump. They do this for myriad reasons, chief among them to gain quick sales and favorable reviews (since people tend to review things on a relative value basis). Two recent kitchen item examples of a "just released with no real ccc history" items include:
These cake pans: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08W62WVWX/ (first available Sept 5, initially priced around $6 for sets then popped up to $20)
These pans: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08S81CG3W (first available in April, 2022, initially priced around $13-15 per set then popped up to $57)
Both of these products, looking back in hindsight, were released with substantially lower prices than their "normal" run price for various reasons. I bought them both and they're all clearly worth more than their initial price in terms of relative build quality to known brands (whom Amazon has likely contracted out to make these things). But at the time, you wouldn't have known that because they had basically no ccc history as they were new products. So, when they were first released and no one saw them, they trickled down in price from the initially already lower than normal price that Amazon intended by, say, 6%. At the time if you had clicked on those you would have seen a "6% discount" when in reality the discount was the amount off the intended list AND the 6% off that.
So, this bar set is the same, it was just released November 1, will go up in price soon once enough of them have been purchased at these discounted prices, and then people will stop buying them but they will have favorable reviews built up from this initial low price release. So, when I say "at least 60% off list" what I'm saying is, once this speciifc price expires, these will go up to at least $35-40 for the set. If you don't believe me, check back in a month or so, maybe sooner.
The second way it works is if sales are slow and/or they need to clear a warehouse bin for one of their items due to logistics/purchasing/inventory, there's the "staircase effect" you're probably familiar with from ccc in which the price will slowly trickle down over days, weeks, months, rarely years but sometimes. Usually there's a limit to this even if the product isn't selling and once it reaches 85% or so, it will pop back up. This is not one of those items because it's just been released. It could become one of those discounted items in the future though, if it sells poorly near the "normal" price, in which case it'll trickle down to where we are now, or a bit further.
Anyway, hope this helps explain what's going on. I'm not a shill, I don't care about the retailer or brand, I've posted from all over the place but tend to stick to Amazon because that's where I'm good at finding deals and understanding how pricing mechanisms work.
Edit: Now that this deal has reached "popular" you'll probably see this pricing effect take place sooner and the sets will jump higher in price within days, as long as enough are sold.
I have a similar set without the stand and corkscrew, ended up using only shaker + pourers from it. Already replaced the jigger with twice larger 2oz/1oz version (thicker walls, rounded edges) - it feels better/safer in hands and takes less time when you make 3-4 servings of margarita at a time.
Bottom line - good and inexpensive set for the starters to try, but don't buy it for someone, who's already in business - they'd know better what they need.
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I have a similar set without the stand and corkscrew, ended up using only shaker + pourers from it. Already replaced the jigger with twice larger 2oz/1oz version (thicker walls, rounded edges) - it feels better/safer in hands and takes less time when you make 3-4 servings of margarita at a time.
Bottom line - good and inexpensive set for the starters to try, but don't buy it for someone, who's already in business - they'd know better what they need.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HSMCSK2?
They also have an essentials kit for someone starting out that is excellent but expensive at $130: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSYTA76
HIC also makes a nice Japanese style jigger (this is the only type they'll want) which I think runs for $15 from various retailers.
https://www.amazon.com/cocktail-s...71&sr=8-22
cocktail kingdom is good, but even the crap at Target is better than this, avoid "sets"
https://www.amazon.com/cocktail-s...71&sr=8-22 [amazon.com]
1. If they have long paragraphs as the description, it's bc they're trying to effectively "trick" Amazon's SEO rankings. Doubly so if the phrasing is weird and unnatural.
2. If there are 12,000+ reviews and you've never heard of the brand and it's from a third party, a large chunk of those are likely fraudulent
3. Don't buy from third parties on Amazon if a "sold by" Amazon alternative of similar quality or features is available. Because this means Amazon themselves, a buyer employed within Amazon, has bought the item to sell directly through the company. And becuase Amazon will care about its reputation more than a random third party who can come and go as they please, the likelihood of getting a higher quality product is also higher. It's no guarantee but it's good practice. Note I'm not just talking about Amazon's brands which are hit or miss, I mean just things that are "sold by" them, of all different brands.
That's not to say the one you posted is poor, I don't know, just that it's not worth taking the risk.
cocktail kingdom is good, but even the crap at Target is better than this, avoid "sets"
Mercer's Barfly brand is also pretty good and usually cheaper than CK.
No one who is actually into bartending either as a hobby or especially as a profession, should be buying any of this. The strainer on the shaker tins is a dead giveaway. No bartender uses something like a strainer top on shakers. You either use a real hawthorne, or you break the short tin (if you're in a hurry or work high volume bars) and do a dirty strain.
But anyway, that's obviously not who these sets are for since they cost like half of a single good quality hawthorne strainer.
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