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Staples Weekly Ad - HP slim desktop computer with Intel® Core™ i3 Processor, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD storage for $290

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This is a 12th Generation processor. Staples site doesn't have much info but I'll post a link for product specs I found from HP. Don't know how upgradeable memory etc. is but if I needed a desktop, I'd be buying this, should be fine as is for most users.

Specs: HP Slim Desktop S01-pF2016 PC Product Specifications | HP® Customer Support
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HP Slim S01-pF2016 Desktop Computer, Intel Core i3-12100, 8GB Memory, 256GB SSD (577M7AA#ABA) | Staples

This is a 12th Generation processor. Staples site doesn't have much info but I'll post a link for product specs I found from HP. Don't know how upgradeable memory etc. is but if I needed a desktop, I'd be buying this, should be fine as is for most users.

Specs: HP Slim Desktop S01-pF2016 PC Product Specifications | HP® Customer Support

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The link for Specs didn't come up as a clickable link for some reason.

Try this: https://support.hp.com/ro-en/document/c08330026
Last edited by trtem November 13, 2022 at 01:08 PM.
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For some reason the "See Deal" and main link only take you the 1st page of Weekly Ad.
You need to go to Page 9 to see this offer.
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Quote from trtem :
The link for Specs didn't come up as a clickable link for some reason.

Try this: https://support.hp.com/ro-en/document/c08330026
Assuming we're looking at the right list, the thread title should get updated to note the i3-12100 CPU.

The four core Alder Lake i3 is truly a monster, comparable to plenty of i5 and i7 CPUs in just the prior generation.

This computer is not necessarily anyone's platform for video rendering or competitive gaming, (though it might do either surprisingly well for the price), but could definitely be a great investment as a long-term daily driver PC.

Good luck!
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Hilariously enough, this motherboard has an upgrade path to the i7-12700(!). The power implications are tricky because although the stated TDP difference is a mere 5W the reality is that the i7 has a much higher potential power draw, but it's hilarious to see this budget desktop platform carry such serious CPU horsepower (largely thanks to the ridiculous power packed into the latest Intel Alder Lake generation).

Good luck!
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It doesn't really make sense to buy this when there are notebooks with similar specs for the same price
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Quote from Eagles89 :
It doesn't really make sense to buy this when there are notebooks with similar specs for the same price
I've always found desktop processors to have more capability then laptop processors. For example on Passmark a desktop I3 or I5 CPU will have a higher score than the equivalent laptop CPU of the same generation. Right now I'm seeing some I3 laptops and desktops that are usually around $400 for well under $300.

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Quote from trtem :
I've always found desktop processors to have more capability then laptop processors. For example on Passmark a desktop I3 or I5 CPU will have a higher score than the equivalent laptop CPU of the same generation. Right now I'm seeing some I3 laptops and desktops that are usually around $400 for well under $300.
Walmart has this notebook for $250 right now. Only difference is CPU is slightly slower

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-15-...hbdg=L2000
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Quote from Eagles89 :
It doesn't really make sense to buy this when there are notebooks with similar specs for the same price
Quote from Eagles89 :
Walmart has this notebook for $250 right now. Only difference is CPU is slightly slower

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-15-...hbdg=L2000
I've seen reports of batteries in some of the cheaper notebooks swelling from being connected to a power source 24x7.
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Quote from Eagles89 :
It doesn't really make sense to buy this when there are notebooks with similar specs for the same price
That is true to the extent that for a large group of users there are notebook systems which would be functionally comparable for their needs. I recently purchased a Dell refurb equipped with the four-core i5-8350U as a desktop replacement, and I expect that laptop to provide years of use as a productivity PC (running Excel, basic web browsing, etc.) with performance to spare.

However, there still remains a significant performance and maintenance advantages for desktop systems, which then adds residuals to their long-term investment value. Even for something like this relatively proprietary system, chasing down a replacement power supply might be more feasible than the power daughterboard for some particular laptop (assuming you're lucky enough to have such a circuit off the mainboard, lest the whole system be a wash). Then there's the performance gap: though compact systems like the one in this deal face challenges similar to laptops in putting the user at the whims of the OEM as to the power and thermal limits baked into the package, there's simply much more headroom in the performance capabilities of this 60W i3 CPU vs. a comparable mobile platform CPU which might max out at around 30W.

To be fair, I'd repeat that both CPUs might overkill for a large base of users (heck, I only this past month retired from daily use a Core2 Quad 9505s). I just wouldn't want to dismiss the value desktop systems can present for the right contexts.

Good luck!
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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
To be fair, I'd repeat that both CPUs might overkill for a large base of users (heck, I only this past month retired from daily use a Core2 Quad 9505s). I just wouldn't want to dismiss the value desktop systems can present for the right contexts.
I am still using the desktop I built 8 years ago. When I compare it to a desktop with modern specs, I don't notice a single difference.
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Quote from Eagles89 :
Walmart has this notebook for $250 right now. Only difference is CPU is slightly slower

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-15-...hbdg=L2000 [walmart.com]N
Notebook from Walmart has I3-1115G4 processor with PassMark bench score of 6229.
This desktop has I3-12100 with Pass Mark bench score of 14296 (higher is better), which makes the notebook more than slightly slower as far as processor.
I don't know how accurate the pricing is on Pass Mark but it lists the price for the laptop processor as $281 and the price for the desktop processor as $122.
That would make the laptop the better deal as it is cheaper than the cost of the CPU alone !!
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Quote from trtem :
Notebook from Walmart has I3-1115G4 processor with PassMark bench score of 6229.
This desktop has I3-12100 with Pass Mark bench score of 14296 (higher is better), which makes the notebook more than slightly slower as far as processor.
I don't know how accurate the pricing is on Pass Mark but it lists the price for the laptop processor as $281 and the price for the desktop processor as $122.
That would make the laptop the better deal as it is cheaper than the cost of the CPU alone !!
I wouldn't put much stock in those Pass Mark scores. At some point, having a faster CPU won't help unless you are doing CPU intensive tasks, which most of us don't.
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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
That is true to the extent that for a large group of users there are notebook systems which would be functionally comparable for their needs. I recently purchased a Dell refurb equipped with the four-core i5-8350U as a desktop replacement, and I expect that laptop to provide years of use as a productivity PC (running Excel, basic web browsing, etc.) with performance to spare.

However, there still remains a significant performance and maintenance advantages for desktop systems, which then adds residuals to their long-term investment value. Even for something like this relatively proprietary system, chasing down a replacement power supply might be more feasible than the power daughterboard for some particular laptop (assuming you're lucky enough to have such a circuit off the mainboard, lest the whole system be a wash). Then there's the performance gap: though compact systems like the one in this deal face challenges similar to laptops in putting the user at the whims of the OEM as to the power and thermal limits baked into the package, there's simply much more headroom in the performance capabilities of this 60W i3 CPU vs. a comparable mobile platform CPU which might max out at around 30W.

To be fair, I'd repeat that both CPUs might overkill for a large base of users (heck, I only this past month retired from daily use a Core2 Quad 9505s). I just wouldn't want to dismiss the value desktop systems can present for the right contexts.

Good luck!
Jon
I'm looking for a desktop computer. Do you think this one in the post is better than this Acer one?
They both kinda fall into my budget.
Thank you
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Used your link to replace the one I had. Clicking on "See Deal" takes you directly to the desktop now but the text link that it replaced is not clickable.

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