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Hover-1 - Highlander Pro Foldable Electric Scooter w/18 mi Max Operating Range & 15 mph Max Speed - Black $200 + Free Shipping

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doggyworld
11-17-2022 at 07:38 PM.
11-17-2022 at 07:38 PM.
Quote from StrategyFreak :
This is a pretty genius idea. Could you please send me more info on how you achieved this? Also, the underlying hardware (controller, etc) is capable of supporting a 48V source, so it would be very interesting to run a higher voltage and larger external battery. In theory that would enable a significantly higher power on the motor, which would give more power on hills, which is the only weakness of this excellent scooter. Installing an XT-60 switch would allow one to use either the stock battery or a larger external one.



Literally in my post lmao, but here it is: https://slickdeals.net/f/15611650-ymmv-target-hover-1-blackhawk-electric-scooter-or-razor-c25-electric-scooter-179-99?v=1&src=SiteSearch
I'm not sure you can just add a 48V battery to the scooter.. it depends on the controller. I re-used the 36V battery in another ebike.

Basically, I had to redesign my own 3-blade connector to hookup to the battery. The key is that in order to turn on the BMS in the battery, you have to short the middle and positive connections. There's not a lot of hardware needed other than a switch, some soldering, and the XT60 connector, but a lot of design work and 3D printing. Smilie
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doggyworld
11-17-2022 at 07:39 PM.
11-17-2022 at 07:39 PM.
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jokealot
11-18-2022 at 07:35 AM.
11-18-2022 at 07:35 AM.
Is there a video showing how to attach the handbar? The manual is bot clear on how to do this.
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StrategyFreak
11-18-2022 at 02:43 PM.
11-18-2022 at 02:43 PM.
Quote from doggyworld :
I'm not sure you can just add a 48V battery to the scooter.. it depends on the controller. I re-used the 36V battery in another ebike.

Basically, I had to redesign my own 3-blade connector to hookup to the battery. The key is that in order to turn on the BMS in the battery, you have to short the middle and positive connections. There's not a lot of hardware needed other than a switch, some soldering, and the XT60 connector, but a lot of design work and 3D printing. Smilie
Thanks, I really appreciated this info.


This controller has been reported by several sources to be capable of handling 48V, otherwise I wouldn't have proposed it lol. If I recall it is actually used in some 48V system. On the other hand, I've seen occasional examples of people trying to overvolt their scooters/ebikes beyond spec but that's a true YMMV, depends on the internals. In this case there's more solid evidence to support running a higher voltage versus just "let's just hook up at higher voltage battery"

Damn that's unfortunate to hear, basically the worst case scenario - having to make your own 3-pin connector. Seems like it isn't a commodity part, though maybe I could dismantle an existing battery. The switch, soldering, and XT60 is all doable, it's the making a bespoke connector that's the pain. I don't even own a 3D printer. Could I possibly get in contact with you for more info?
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ramshyam001
11-18-2022 at 04:01 PM.
11-18-2022 at 04:01 PM.
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Thanks, I really appreciated this info.


This controller has been reported by several sources to be capable of handling 48V, otherwise I wouldn't have proposed it lol. If I recall it is actually used in some 48V system. On the other hand, I've seen occasional examples of people trying to overvolt their scooters/ebikes beyond spec but that's a true YMMV, depends on the internals. In this case there's more solid evidence to support running a higher voltage versus just "let's just hook up at higher voltage battery"

Damn that's unfortunate to hear, basically the worst case scenario - having to make your own 3-pin connector. Seems like it isn't a commodity part, though maybe I could dismantle an existing battery. The switch, soldering, and XT60 is all doable, it's the making a bespoke connector that's the pain. I don't even own a 3D printer. Could I possibly get in contact with you for more info?
Is there a lock for the battery. I see it can be removed to charge...when it's put back, there should be a lock to safely secure it right
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jokealot
11-18-2022 at 05:25 PM.
11-18-2022 at 05:25 PM.
I assemble the scooter and when I press the 'on' button the lcd don't light up, it that right?
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BadBimr
11-18-2022 at 07:18 PM.
11-18-2022 at 07:18 PM.
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That means you need to lose weight
They were for my kids who are under 90 lbs and I'm 6'1" 185 lbs and hardly need to lose any weight. If I were you I would give up your behind the keyboard comedy career.
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doggyworld
11-18-2022 at 08:32 PM.
11-18-2022 at 08:32 PM.
Quote from StrategyFreak :
Thanks, I really appreciated this info.


This controller has been reported by several sources to be capable of handling 48V, otherwise I wouldn't have proposed it lol. If I recall it is actually used in some 48V system. On the other hand, I've seen occasional examples of people trying to overvolt their scooters/ebikes beyond spec but that's a true YMMV, depends on the internals. In this case there's more solid evidence to support running a higher voltage versus just "let's just hook up at higher voltage battery"

Damn that's unfortunate to hear, basically the worst case scenario - having to make your own 3-pin connector. Seems like it isn't a commodity part, though maybe I could dismantle an existing battery. The switch, soldering, and XT60 is all doable, it's the making a bespoke connector that's the pain. I don't even own a 3D printer. Could I possibly get in contact with you for more info?

Ahh.. that's good to know about the controller. Sure.. you can dm me on here. I basically made my own 3 pin connector by dismantling two outlet connectors and soldering my wires to them. I'm not sure why they didn't use a more common connector as I would think it would be more cost effective. Or maybe I just don't know where to look for these specific connectors.
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grablife
11-18-2022 at 09:21 PM.
11-18-2022 at 09:21 PM.
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Is there a video showing how to attach the handbar? The manual is bot clear on how to do this.

I haven't opened mine yet but if it's like the Blackhawk, just screw them on. I put blue Loctite on them so they don't unscrew so easily.if I recall, they screw on in reverse.
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grablife
11-18-2022 at 09:30 PM.
11-18-2022 at 09:30 PM.
Quote from jokealot :
I assemble the scooter and when I press the 'on' button the lcd don't light up, it that right?

Charge until charger light is green. Press and hold the on button. If it does not come on, you have a dud.

It will not power on with the charger attached for safety reasons.
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Micah13
11-19-2022 at 09:35 AM.
11-19-2022 at 09:35 AM.
Got a Blackhawk in the box of "Highlander Pro". No battery lock or a blue strap over the top, no front suspension, small old dashboard and the taillight, old style steering column lock, Hover-1 instead of -H- logo on the deck… Does anyone else has the same issue?
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noid74lives
11-19-2022 at 10:26 AM.
11-19-2022 at 10:26 AM.
Quote from Micah13 :
Got a Blackhawk in the box of "Highlander Pro". No battery lock or a blue strap over the top, no front suspension, small old dashboard and the taillight, old style steering column lock, Hover-1 instead of -H- logo on the deck… Does anyone else has the same issue?
Check for the model number H1-HRPRO-BLK under the deck. Does it look new? Some of the review pictures on Best Buy shows two different versions. One is the Highlander Pro the other is the new version of the Blackhawk sold at Walmart.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/151421833
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Micah13
11-19-2022 at 04:20 PM.
11-19-2022 at 04:20 PM.
No, what I got is an older style Blackhawk with the H1-BHWK-BLK under the deck...
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noid74lives
11-19-2022 at 05:59 PM.
11-19-2022 at 05:59 PM.
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No, what I got is an older style Blackhawk with the H1-BHWK-BLK under the deck...
Is it new or used looking? Maybe someone swapped it and returned it as unopened then went back into their inventory. I would contact them but since its sold out now you might be unable to get an exchange.
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Micah13
11-19-2022 at 07:12 PM.
11-19-2022 at 07:12 PM.
Quote from Micah13 :
No, what I got is an older style Blackhawk with the H1-BHWK-BLK under the deck...
Quote from noid74lives :
Is it new or used looking? Maybe someone swapped it and returned it as unopened then went back into their inventory. I would contact them but since its sold out now you might be unable to get an exchange.
The scooter looks new and the box was sealed. However, while the box said: "Highlander Pro", the specs on the box was indicating that it is Blackhawk, and the manual included in the box is also for Blackhawk... It looks like Hover-1 is trying to sell old Blackhawk inventory as Highlanders for whatever reason... Hence, I suspect that at least some people may get the same "surprise!
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